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January 14, 2018, 04:42:46 PM
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Where does QTUM stands compare to Ethereum, Neblio, Stratis, Neo, EOS and ARK coins.

any comparison chart available


here is the answer too:


Quote from: skycoin on March 16, 2017, 04:54:31 PM

- https://qtum.org

Qtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far.


I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM.....

I have not looked at qtum's code.

We know the qtum founder and he is one of the largest investors in Skycoin from four years ago, before qtum or any of this. Some of the people around him are legendary scammers, but he is not a scammer.

I think Patricks role in the bitbay situation is exaggerated. I read through the arguments and it just sounds like drama.

Many of the people in the Bitcoin community are sociopaths. They often steal things or cause drama, then immediately blame it or scapegoat it on someone else. They are not even done stealing the money, before they go on campaign of moral indignation against the fall person.

I think Patrick was blamed for Bitbay because his personality makes him an easy victim for sociopaths and the human predators in the bitcoin community. There are people walking around, sizing people up and trying to determine whether they can manipulate someone, setup a scam, steal things and who is going to be gullible or a fall person.

If you knew the people involved, you would understand what the social dynamic is.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin.

All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing.

We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model.

I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way
- thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system)
- moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone)

I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later.

I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction.

Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer.
- we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin)
- then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum)
- now we just trying to figure out how to build  pure computer on UXTO
- Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer"

Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense.

Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes.

Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing.

Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols.

One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model.

Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction.

>Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet?

I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language.

It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction.

Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now.

Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially.



thank you skycoin dev, because of you, i brought into qtum and made some money.


i like this post, everyone should read it.

that's one of the most exciting post this year.


there are a lot of insights in this post.

people will realize this later. Smiley

this is the really the nice insights before Qtum ICO

right now, i think more and more people can realize this.

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Does Qtum already have the wallet for win 32 bit? I'll try to instal the client version 64bit on 4gb RAM laptop and feels lacking

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January 15, 2018, 04:28:12 PM
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Qtum will still demonstrate why it's a good solution to some tasks! Nowadays this time we could call it finding your target audience, the Qtum community has grown strongly in recent months, Asians are the base naturally, good things will come from here, Sirius is a fair tribute.
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January 15, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
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Does Qtum already have the wallet for win 32 bit? I'll try to instal the client version 64bit on 4gb RAM laptop and feels lacking
I'm waiting also for this so that i can install too on my beloved 32 bit system for such Hodling because my gut says this project is a game changer!  Wink
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January 16, 2018, 08:20:24 PM
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what I really miss in tonns of info on qtum web -- normal people language, normal business language. So shit crypto tech mess.

i.e. what per miracle, why people will use that qbao if all they are sitting in fb. what will be if fb will add universal payment gar=gateway for crypto? When normal teenager language will come to crypto, but any smart contracts, nodes and other mess?

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January 17, 2018, 03:16:04 AM
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this is a great project, it is a huge pontential too !!
never miss this chance or you will be regret Cool
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January 17, 2018, 07:49:58 AM
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QTUM STRIKES DEAL WITH PIONEERING CHINESE NETWORK SECURITY FIRM

Blockchain, decentralized apps platform Qtum has inked a deal with Chinese internet royalty in the form of Qihoo 360, a Beijing-based company that is not well-known in the West but is the leader in network security in its home market.

http://bitcoinist.com/qtum-strikes-deal-with-pioneering-chinese-network-security-firm/
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January 17, 2018, 08:52:31 AM
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I really like this, because the project is aimed at nothing else for exchange rates, there will be enough blockchain projects that will meet this demand. Instead, focus will be directed to various technology sectors that will facilitate operations. All of this will be placed in a decentralized application framework, based on a modified version of the virtual ethereum machine.
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January 17, 2018, 10:13:49 AM
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QTUM Announces Starbucks Partnership, Price Still Sinks.

https://cryptovest.com/news/qtum-announces-starbucks-partnership-price-still-sinks/

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January 17, 2018, 01:19:04 PM
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QTUM Announces Starbucks Partnership, Price Still Sinks.

https://cryptovest.com/news/qtum-announces-starbucks-partnership-price-still-sinks/

It's just because everything goes down now.
Right after the sell-off investors will notice it and it will definitely influence the price.
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where can I find information about creating masternode qtum, what are the hardware requirements, the required number of coins, documents for setup and qstart, support services for communication.

                           
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January 18, 2018, 06:08:41 AM
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QTUM Announces Starbucks Partnership, Price Still Sinks.

https://cryptovest.com/news/qtum-announces-starbucks-partnership-price-still-sinks/


all of tokens' price is down now.we need wait the market come back.

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January 18, 2018, 09:04:54 AM
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QTUM Announces Starbucks Partnership, Price Still Sinks.

https://cryptovest.com/news/qtum-announces-starbucks-partnership-price-still-sinks/



The problem with Qtum is the marketing.  They are so bad at getting these annoucements recognized.  The news is scattered and this thread is barely updated.  They have so much going on but noone knows about it. 

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January 19, 2018, 06:01:39 AM
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Interesting, but what it is exactly. Separate blockchain, which able to create smart contracts? Or Ethereum based project? I have downloaded wallet and  I see that it is able to keep ERC tokens in this wallet. So it is not clear how Qtum works.

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January 19, 2018, 06:17:37 AM
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QTUM Announces Starbucks Partnership, Price Still Sinks.

https://cryptovest.com/news/qtum-announces-starbucks-partnership-price-still-sinks/


all of tokens' price is down now.we need wait the market come back.
Yes you are right, all altcoin on red line, and news about the partnership not immediatley affect the price, but Qtum on good track I think.

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January 19, 2018, 09:36:16 PM
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"Matchpool, the matchmaking platform for decentralized services, have announced a $50,000 development contest for participants to create a MVP QTUM app. Following its successful launch, Matchpool has turned its sights on the Asian market and is specifically developing its QCUP model for the market. The company aims to provide matchmaking tools that incentivise positive connections for everyone and is set to kick off this global connection on the Asian market. Asia is the fastest growing social connections market in the world buoyed by over a billion mobile device users, making it an extremely important market for social connection platforms."

Seen at: https://www.ccn.com/qtum-matchpool-issue-50000-developer-challenge/
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January 20, 2018, 01:06:41 AM
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Interesting, but what it is exactly. Separate blockchain, which able to create smart contracts? Or Ethereum based project? I have downloaded wallet and  I see that it is able to keep ERC tokens in this wallet. So it is not clear how Qtum works.

I think it is not based on Ethereum but a separate stand alone blockchain, this is what I understood when my friend explained it but am not 100% certain.
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January 20, 2018, 02:18:22 AM
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Have command line client same etherium geth?
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January 20, 2018, 06:06:28 AM
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Interesting, but what it is exactly. Separate blockchain, which able to create smart contracts? Or Ethereum based project? I have downloaded wallet and  I see that it is able to keep ERC tokens in this wallet. So it is not clear how Qtum works.

It's a separate blockchain.  The virtual machine is taken from ethereum, so you can write Dapps in solidity and port them over.  They are working on integrating other languages that can be used to write Dapps also.  It's a platform just like Ethereum, NEO, Etc.

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January 20, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
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Have command line client same etherium geth?

Here are the help from the qtum node
== Blockchain ==
callcontract "address" "data" ( address )
getaccountinfo "address"
getbestblockhash
getblock "blockhash" ( verbose )
getblockchaininfo
getblockcount
getblockhash height
getblockheader "hash" ( verbose )
getchaintips
getdifficulty
getmempoolancestors txid (verbose)
getmempooldescendants txid (verbose)
getmempoolentry txid
getmempoolinfo
getrawmempool ( verbose )
getstorage "address"
gettransactionreceipt "hash"
gettxout "txid" n ( include_mempool )
gettxoutproof ["txid",...] ( blockhash )
gettxoutsetinfo
listcontracts (start maxDisplay)
preciousblock "blockhash"
pruneblockchain
searchlogs <fromBlock> <toBlock> (address) (topics)
verifychain ( checklevel nblocks )
verifytxoutproof "proof"
waitforlogs (fromBlock) (toBlock) (filter) (minconf)

== Control ==
getinfo
getmemoryinfo
help ( "command" )
stop

== Generating ==
generate nblocks ( maxtries )
generatetoaddress nblocks address (maxtries)

== Mining ==
getblocktemplate ( TemplateRequest )
getmininginfo
getnetworkhashps ( nblocks height )
getstakinginfo
getsubsidy [nTarget]
prioritisetransaction <txid> <priority delta> <fee delta>
submitblock "hexdata" ( "jsonparametersobject" )

== Network ==
addnode "node" "add|remove|onetry"
clearbanned
disconnectnode "node"
getaddednodeinfo ( "node" )
getconnectioncount
getnettotals
getnetworkinfo
getpeerinfo
listbanned
ping
setban "subnet" "add|remove" (bantime) (absolute)
setnetworkactive true|false

== Rawtransactions ==
createrawtransaction [{"txid":"id","vout":n},...] {"address":amount,"data":"hex",...} ( locktime )
decoderawtransaction "hexstring"
decodescript "hexstring"
fromhexaddress "hexaddress"
fundrawtransaction "hexstring" ( options )
gethexaddress "address"
getrawtransaction "txid" ( verbose )
sendrawtransaction "hexstring" ( allowhighfees )
signrawtransaction "hexstring" ( [{"txid":"id","vout":n,"scriptPubKey":"hex","redeemScript":"hex"},...] ["privatekey1",...] sighashtype )

== Util ==
createmultisig nrequired ["key",...]
estimatefee nblocks
estimatepriority nblocks
estimatesmartfee nblocks
estimatesmartpriority nblocks
signmessagewithprivkey "privkey" "message"
validateaddress "address"
verifymessage "address" "signature" "message"

== Wallet ==
abandontransaction "txid"
addmultisigaddress nrequired ["key",...] ( "account" )
addwitnessaddress "address"
backupwallet "destination"
bumpfee "txid" ( options )
createcontract "bytecode" (gaslimit gasprice "senderaddress" broadcast)
dumpprivkey "address"
dumpwallet "filename"
encryptwallet "passphrase"
getaccount "address"
getaccountaddress "account"
getaddressesbyaccount "account"
getbalance ( "account" minconf include_watchonly )
getnewaddress ( "account" )
getrawchangeaddress
getreceivedbyaccount "account" ( minconf )
getreceivedbyaddress "address" ( minconf )
gettransaction "txid" ( include_watchonly ) (waitconf)
getunconfirmedbalance
getwalletinfo
importaddress "address" ( "label" rescan p2sh )
importmulti "requests" "options"
importprivkey "qtum" ( "label" ) ( rescan )
importprunedfunds
importpubkey "pubkey" ( "label" rescan )
importwallet "filename"
keypoolrefill ( newsize )
listaccounts ( minconf include_watchonly)
listaddressgroupings
listlockunspent
listreceivedbyaccount ( minconf include_empty include_watchonly)
listreceivedbyaddress ( minconf include_empty include_watchonly)
listsinceblock ( "blockhash" target_confirmations include_watchonly)
listtransactions ( "account" count skip include_watchonly)
listunspent ( minconf maxconf  ["addresses",...] [include_unsafe] )
lockunspent unlock ([{"txid":"txid","vout":n},...])
move "fromaccount" "toaccount" amount ( minconf "comment" )
removeprunedfunds "txid"
reservebalance [<reserve> [amount]]
sendfrom "fromaccount" "toaddress" amount ( minconf "comment" "comment_to" )
sendmany "fromaccount" {"address":amount,...} ( minconf "comment" ["address",...] )
sendmanywithdupes "fromaccount" {"address":amount,...} ( minconf "comment" ["address",...] )
sendtoaddress "address" amount ( "comment" "comment_to" subtractfeefromamount )
sendtocontract "contractaddress" "data" (amount gaslimit gasprice senderaddress broadcast)
setaccount "address" "account"
settxfee amount
signmessage "address" "message"


Also,
You can use Bitcore node so it's the same command line parameter as Bitcore node.
It's called
https://github.com/qtumproject/qtum-bitcore
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