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April 10, 2013, 09:08:51 PM
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We need to halt trading to stop the manipulators from profiting! We all play or nobody can play!

No we don't. I bet you thought it was all rainbows, kittens, and puppy breath when the "manipulators" came in with their big money and broke down 500,000-1,000,000 fiat walls time after time. That money doesn't last forever. Eventually they have to sell their coins and get back into fiat to be able to buy again and this is how they do it. Buy big, sell big. If you don't like the game, take your coins and go home.


There is some huge fleecing happening and people wont realize it untill the prices bounce back in a couple hours from now and all the panic selling people did was a HUGE manipulation to get coins out of your pocket.


I lost coins the first times I traded. You either learn how to play the game, learn that you suck at playing the game, or totally lose your ass. You can't save them all.


We have not crashed

Sure looks like one to me. Even if the price recovers back to where it was before all this, it's still a crash. Denial, river, Egypt, etc.




Im not talking about breaking walls! im talking about a coordinated DDOS on charts , exchanges and forums like here! So there goes the first bit of nonsense youre yapping!

the coins you lost when you were first trading wasnt BECAUSE OF MANIPULATORS DDOSING THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE!

YOU LOST YOURE COINS CAUSE YOU WERE IGNORANT AND DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE FEK YOU WERE DOING!!


AND THATS OK!!!



NoW all the noobs dont have that same opportunity to be A DUMB ARSE LIKE YOU DID !





WHAT CRASH! lolz.. There was only a crash if someone told you to jump and you said how high and jumped like alil b****!!! LOLZ
(im trying to school the noobs and save the face of bitcoin)

We cant all be labled scammers and manipulators!! There will be not bitcoin if we do!!


 virtex now at 200$ btc china headed that way!!

People who were asleep will miss the whole thing and wake up to price the same or not far off from when they were last awake!!




Leaving only the people who sold in a panic to be the loosers!






 
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April 10, 2013, 09:12:41 PM
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OP's right, the whole DDOS thing makes it fishy. And let's be honest, that's pretty much the only thing banksters, reptilians and illuminati combined could do against bitcoin.

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April 10, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
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I pretty much missed all the action, damn.
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April 10, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
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OP's right, the whole DDOS thing makes it fishy. And let's be honest, that's pretty much the only thing banksters, reptilians and illuminati combined could do against bitcoin.
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April 10, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
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^^ No doubt guys!!

PEOPLE ARE Wrong to assume its people renting botnets! It could be banks, gov competing currency runners like amazon! Yeah they have there own lame amazon coins like facebook credits .. they are looking at bitcoin like man i wish that was OURS!! We must kill it with fire!! Thats what they are thinking!

If they cant have it they want control knobs on it!







We must dialog and re-route around this shit technically or otherwise!

 
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April 10, 2013, 09:26:54 PM
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Im not talking about breaking walls! im talking about a coordinated DDOS on charts , exchanges and forums like here! So there goes the first bit of nonsense youre yapping!

Coordinated DDOS sucks just as much as coordinated price manipulation. Like I said few people were complaining when the price was going up. Get over the emotion of it all and play the game or take your coins and fiat and go home. Chill before you blow a blood vessel.

WHAT CRASH! lolz.. There was only a crash if someone told you to jump and you said how high and jumped like alil b****!!! LOLZ

The chart disagrees. Recovery or not the price still crashed to less than 1/2 of what is was.

(im trying to school the noobs and save the face of bitcoin)


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April 10, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
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^^ and its a mere coincidence that nobody on this thread agrees with you and you had to retort your fail in concrete!
lolz




PS: youre charts have been manipulated ... just like you were.

Was that all you got?

 
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April 10, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
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who cares, im glad I got out, i couldn't care less if it rebounded and it will rebound tomorrow which is what the bulls are waiting for so they can sell at a better price and then the market will be completely screwed

You got shaken out. Now you'll buy back in at a higher price + fees.

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Is Bitcoin open to value manipulation?

The current low market cap of Bitcoin means that any investor with deep enough pockets can significantly change/manipulate the rate. Is this a problem?

This is only a problem if you are investing in Bitcoin for short period of time. A manipulator can't change the fundamentals, and over a period of 5-10 years they will win over any short term manipulations.
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April 10, 2013, 10:31:35 PM
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Wonder how many merchants got screwed by the gox lag ?

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April 10, 2013, 11:15:16 PM
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Denial Post?  Why, I never expected such a thing.

^^ some of us knew what was up from the get .. alot of onlookers dont! They depend on the liquidity of the sentiment of the current maket!


So no its not a denial post .. its a warning to onlookers! Its save face in the community and if this and post like it remain a sticky than the less value such actions have on the community!  EVERYONE WILL KNOW ITS A MANIPULATION! NOT JUST THE REGULARS!!



We dont have to wait for someone to defend us we can defend ourselves! dialog and take steps..


Who is 'we' ? and what is it that we should be doing?

"Pissing in the wind" seems an appropriate metaphor.

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April 10, 2013, 11:43:32 PM
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who cares, im glad I got out, i couldn't care less if it rebounded and it will rebound tomorrow which is what the bulls are waiting for so they can sell at a better price and then the market will be completely screwed

You got shaken out. Now you'll buy back in at a higher price + fees + a bottle of KY.

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April 11, 2013, 12:21:20 AM
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I don't even care about today's price trends - I only pay attention to weekly average. I'll decide in a week or two if this was an irrelevant moment of mass hysteria, manipulation, concrete correction, or the beginning of downtrend. Whatever the case may be, fundamentals still seem reasonably solid. Price doubling every few days is not healthy anyway, so I will be glad if we slowed down to allow for the growth and maturing of the infrastructure and legal framework. All is well. I am happy, especially because I snatched a few more coins from panic sellers today. In the long term, I see no reason for Bitcoin to not keep growing. It works, and it is a useful technology. The risks are presently minimal, mostly related to the open-ended questions of mining economics.

Agree, but I'm more worried about scalability than mining economics.
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April 11, 2013, 12:51:30 AM
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I've already stopped and pulled out ALL my BTC from all the exchanges!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fvSYT7vhQY < This is what made me do it!

I'm moving to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27055.0 Dark Exchange.

So, let me get this straight.  Your response to that guy who sells silver coins fearmongering about manipulated Bitcoin prices on open exchanges, is to move to a dark exchange where prices are more easily manipulated?

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April 11, 2013, 01:00:41 AM
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who cares, im glad I got out, i couldn't care less if it rebounded and it will rebound tomorrow which is what the bulls are waiting for so they can sell at a better price and then the market will be completely screwed

You got shaken out. Now you'll buy back in at a higher price + fees + a bottle of KY.

FTFY Cheesy



^^ this !!!

lolz... noobs getting slaughtered! .. (its funny but its not) its tough not to laugh but..

Sucks they didnt get slaughtered from true market conditions .. They got manipulated !!!

Never hear about New York stock exchange going down to a herd of botnets!! Price plummeting on apple and MS stocks by 160 points..


Its ok to be ignorant because youre new or dont know what the hell youre doing but.. Thats what i was trying to say to grndzero .. when he said he lost coins when he was new at trading!! Thats ok .. thats whats supposed to happen!..


when someone plays youre hand for you and you dont even realize it its another story. lots of people got played today but it wasnt because they ignorant or stupid ..

They got played because of fabricated market conditions that attempted to paralyze the community while they reaped the opportunity!



Also its not the opportunity of gaining coins that they took.. not just that!

They also took the lime light away from alot of the positive momentum BITCOIN had .. might take weeks and months to recover from the oncoming FUD campaign! But it might only take a day or two days or a week to retrieve our $ position! Hell its at 180$ right now! (points and laugh) <<--- sorry i had too.. lolz

so thats not the issue .. the true believers in btc already new that.. $300 by MAY!!!? four??



They are taking more than coins but people are so fixated on the crash or the bubble ..they are missing the fact that people are gunning for bitcoins swagger!!






Im like dam get over it .. you wanted it to be a bubble soooo bad.. well there ya go enjoy your 4 hour fabricated wannabe crash / bubble .

A bunch of forbes and bloomberg fucks are chuckling away untill they see the $ skyrocket back!!! lolz..


One day we may find out that the behemoth mutant freakshow currency we call bitcoin was no where near a true bubble or crash and we were hundreds if not thousands per coin away from such an event & the only thing they could do was lag it.. (points and laughs)

 




Who is 'we' ? and what is it that we should be doing?

"Pissing in the wind" seems an appropriate metaphor.

To the guy that asked who is we? Youre either with us or against us! If you dont know who is who or where you stand ... let me spell it our for you!~!


To everyone else thats knows ---->>>  us     =       the people who use promote and believe in bitcoin. We trade it, create communitys like bitcoitalk so we can dialog about it. We build places like bitcoinity ("comboy from this forum").. or bitinstant or mtgox or all the other sites services and overall community of bitcoiners!! Thats US !!


Them =  the goverments, the bankers, the people who hold huge footprints in our society's and run mega corporations that are hiding 32 trillion in offshore accounts tax free!! http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/23/business/la-fi-mo-tax-havens-20120723



THATS THEM!

Find out what side of the fence youre on and you wont have to ask who is who!



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April 11, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
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So what's really your point, zedicus? You bought in at $250?
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April 11, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
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Relax dude. It still quite high. 100 dollar is a lot, if you think about it. Bitcoin used to be 35 a couple of weeks ago.  That is still an enormous growth.

It is just a correction or something like that. Maybe some big people cashed out. Or people got anxious that it would fall and started selling.
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April 11, 2013, 02:26:24 PM
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I am HOLD my coins

I AM NOT SELL MY BITCOINTALK ACCOUNT !!!
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If you want to make money, buy low, sell high.  If you want to do something else than do that but stop whining.  You can't stop manipulators from manipulating no matter how much you try to manipulate people with lame posts on the forums.  Speculators drive the price up and smart speculators sell and drive it down for profit.
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April 11, 2013, 11:37:16 PM
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So what's really your point, zedicus? You bought in at $250?


Look right above youre post! If you cant read find someone to spell it out for you a letter at a time ....!



Relax dude. It still quite high. 100 dollar is a lot, if you think about it. Bitcoin used to be 35 a couple of weeks ago.  That is still an enormous growth.

It is just a correction or something like that. Maybe some big people cashed out. Or people got anxious that it would fall and started selling.


That i agree with even 100 is high but nowhere near a top.. merely a staggering point right now from the volatility! I bought in multiple times at quite a few price ranges so even now im not even flinching. The issue is how we got here!


If you want to make money, buy low, sell high.  If you want to do something else than do that but stop whining.  You can't stop manipulators from manipulating no matter how much you try to manipulate people with lame posts on the forums.  Speculators drive the price up and smart speculators sell and drive it down for profit.


Hey man its ok if youre not the sharpest knife in the drawer! <---- i just called you a dumb arse)

But if im traveling down a road every morning and someone takes a shot at me and everyone else on the road best believe im gonna armed to the teeth next time or at the minimum im gonna make a public announcement so that everyone knows where the sniper is at!

Youre saying ----->>> just sit there like a lil **** and get shot at.. in fact dont tell anyone else about it let them get killed too..! If thats youre stance then maybe you dont even belong in the drawer! In fact get the hell out my thread! Before i assign you  some tuna to open! like a dam can opener..  lulz




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Ok now to the goods...

We got people attacking the community and bitcoin in general via ddos attacks and coordinated bot action !

Example! Ill quote myself from the other thread later but its not hard to see. We have issues outside of the DDOS which is obviously giving the exchanges a hard time!(! Not just mtgox either

The issues are a bots making trades under the minimum amount not doubt using high frequency trading algorithms that make purchases a few peanuts at a time !

The effect is they can make purchase via api and custom bots that come in a lot faster than regular traders can purchase.. so the bots just make a load of low price high volume trades(micro trades) and on lookers (noobs) staring at charts that they dont even understand are seeing red arrows pointing downwards and the price per bitcoin falling and they cant even make a trade because of the lag being put on the system because of the DDOS and the BOTS!!

It looks likes the price is tanking and it ensues a panic sell off at which point a crap load of people loose funds ( those people are the new comers whos confidence we need!!) we need onlookers and investors to embrace bitcoin. We dont need people looking at it like a noob slaughter house where you show up and get scammed out of your btc or fiat  money!


So the bots only have to initiate the landslide and the herd just follows like dumb arses!!


here is a quote from the other thread regarding micro trade filtering and DDOS!






(i was referring to mtdox when i said ask them)

ask em about that!!! Macro order flooding  via bots that trap out regular customer but computer systems dont get trapped out in a panic and they can drive it down via 50 a pop or smaller!! happens every-time is there is a panic! Like someone is manipulating !! Doesn't care about $ its micro manipulate and watch it tank! (look at the dam pics!!)

 Gox needs to filter out micro or macro trades or do something! Thats whats cause's the wild drops and panic !! Probably banks with some bots and endless fiat money!  Needs to be addressed!


Drive it down via those small trades and watch the herd jump ship ! Since there is no cooling period or auto shut off its disastrous! !

Thats whats gonna kill it!  We need a % slide rule and cooling period put in like the real wall-street trading platforms do!

If it falls by x amount they stop trading for x amount of time! "Cooling period"  Hours .. till the next day! Whatever .. something is better than nothing!




At this rate in this setup.. a foreign entity with negative intention's towards bitcoin could micro trades us to our deaths!




Look.. they switch it up .. this time 50c at a time!

Its the same bots!! getting in faster than everyone else to make the trades at 50c a pop and driving it downwards!
 while the regular folks are stuck watching .. trapped cant make a trade and just watch the landslide until they can stop the bleeding and get in to "sell".







Then after the herd sells the same bot operator grabs a crap load of cheap coins .. RINSE & Repeat!!


Happens every-time there is a panic !! EVERY-TIME!!




YOURE ARE BEING PLAYED LIKE A VIDEO GAME!!


Get mtgox and the other exchanges to acknowledge this and take steps!!

The wont unless there is massive pressure because they profit obnoxiously from these mass sell of .. to the tune of millions!!!!

they get a % of all the trades people!






 
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