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December 25, 2016, 12:54:02 PM
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Hello guys,

I need your advices,
It looks that I'm becoming the victim of fraud or scam.

My PAXFUL account is https://paxful.com/user/dgon1990 and sometimes I sell some bitcoins through your service but mostly I trade through my LocalBitcoins account https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/dgon1990/ where I completed 1000+ trades with ~1150 different traders and total turnover ~1000 BTC. I've put there reference link to my Paxum accont at the top of my Localbitcoins accout to prove that I am really its owner http://joxi.ru/L213p9Ni886xPr

I've never been scammed there and never done so there, you can check my perfect feedback there https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/dgon1990/feedback/

But now here I have an issue.
On December 23th https://paxful.com/user/tomans660 created the trade with me to buy 2.54115109 BTC for 2454.09 USD for WESTERN UNION. I gave him receiver's name in Russia and mentioned that my agent closes in 15 minutes from the moment (it was 9:30 pm local time) so I were able to pick up the transfer only in 12 hours when my agent would open again.
Then buyer @tomans660 canceled the trade and said that will contact me tomorrow. Then I switched off my Paxful offers.  My local agents open not earlier than 9:00 am local time so at 6:00 am local time I switched on my selling Paxful offers. Right after that buyer @tomans660 created the trade to buy bitcoins for 2450 USD Western Union. He said that they completed the transfer and gave me the number to pick it up. I checked the status of transfer here https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/track-transfer.html but transfer had status "Processing". I asked buyer @tomans660 to call Western Union to proceed and he promissed to do that. But in few minutes after that I checked the status of transfer and it had status "Money transfer was picked up". So it means that somebudy in Russia picked up the transfer on my behalf. Then buyer @tomans660 marked trade as paid and started discussing that I am a lier and scammer and I picked up the money. But my agents even hadn't opened that time when transfer was picked up. I live in Novosibirsk city, Russia. All agents were closed that time.

I guess the buyer @tomans660 is Russian person himself and he has somebody working in the bank with Western Union in Russia so they processed the transfer using fake documents of receiver or even without any documents. Today I read a lot that there were many such cases of fraud in the Internet. It's only needed to have money transfer number and somebody working within Western Union system.

Also, I have noticed that there was a mistake in receiver's last name. The mistake could be made to not let me pick up the transfer faster then them. So my receiver wouldn't even be able to pick up the transfer with such mistake in his last name. That also proves that transfer was picked up on receivers behalf by somebody working in Western Union for @tomans660.

I have googled some information about @tomans660 and found out that @tomans660 has an account on LocalBitcoins as well but he was banned there for some fraud. I have contacted LocalBitcoins staff to provide me some information about the reason of ban and the kind of fraud he did. They replyed the following
http://joxi.ru/VrwpWVRFOOKDpm
http://joxi.ru/EA4anQgswwDYdr
So he does some suspecious payments from 3rd parties.

Here is also the link to the topic where @tomans660 actions discussed and webcache of his page on localbitcoins
https://localbitcoins.com/forums/#!/localbitcoins/general-discussion:warning-tomans660-cash-depo
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:O4T4wi21udgJ:https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/tomans660/+&cd=1&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru

I almost sure that @tomans660 is not the person who sent money. I guess real sender sent money not to me and even has no idea about my PAXFUL @dgon1990 account.

I've been waiting for response from Paxful admins for last 2 day but still nobodey replies.

Does anybody has any ideas what to do?

Thank you in advance
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December 25, 2016, 01:11:15 PM
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Honestly , It looks more like a mafia work then a normal individual. I don't think paxful would do anything (If he withdrew the money then you lost every chance of getting your money back) , you still can try to proof that your local agent wasn't open at that time when the  money was picked up but I doubt that going to help.

If tomans660 was banned on Localbitcoins , how come his last seen was 32 minutes ago and I also don't think he is from Russia as his ads shows that he is doing transaction for Ruppes (India currency).

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June 04, 2017, 03:02:26 PM
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Paxful has 24/7 support & Moderators all you need to do is access the chat icon on the lower right
part of the page and you can see which moderation are online.
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