Is taxation theft?

[kekcoindev]

If you didn't consent to someone taking your property, then it is theft! Is all theft unjust? Depends on your point of view.

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[mruls]

It is an unfortunate necessary evil in order for modern society to exist as it does. The income tax rate however I believe should be a flat rate for all income brackets, so we do not punish those for doing well.

[Elwar]

It is an unfortunate necessary evil in order for modern society to exist as it does. The income tax rate however I believe should be a flat rate for all income brackets, so we do not punish those for doing well.

Maybe modern society should not exist as it does. A society built on theft creates more problems than it fixes.

[CrownPolly]

It is an unfortunate necessary evil in order for modern society to exist as it does. The income tax rate however I believe should be a flat rate for all income brackets, so we do not punish those for doing well.

Maybe modern society should not exist as it does. A society built on theft creates more problems than it fixes.

The fact is that at the expense of taxes, every state will bring it. Therefore, no country can exist without taxes. After all, we want to have social guarantees or even a good strong army that allows us to live in safety. This all needs money. Therefore, the replenishment of the state budget only at the expense of taxes. That's it about bets, that's another question. And it turns out that richer people pay less than the poorer people.

[Rigorous]

From the moment you are born you make use of the infrastructure, labor, services and achievements of society. If you don't pay taxes, you are the thief.

[Masha Sha]

Not if you are on the recevong end like those chicago university professor who makes 40000$ monthly in pension!!!!

King George only asked for 2%...

[SativaDiva]

Taxation is most certainly theft since most of our tax dollars do not go into what the general public actually needs. It's sad to work so fucking hard and watch 30-100 bucks be taken out before you can even get what you earned.

[Uhde]

Depends on country. In most of developped countries, governments use taxes for peoples benefits. But others, they just use for their own benefits.

[Masha Sha]

Depends on country. In most of developped countries, governments use taxes for peoples benefits. But others, they just use for their own benefits.

Most of the time it goes in one form or the others to the friend of the admin in place, unless fatal purges for corruption start to be enforced. Naturally it proves in blood to soliders that their sacrifices aren't in vain and as such open the path to victory even sometime by example only!

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[supine]

It depends on how taxes are used. Taxes are good if they are used for the common good. But if it will end up inside the politicians wallet then you can call it stealing.

[Masha Sha]

It depends on how taxes are used. Taxes are good if they are used for the common good. But if it will end up inside the politicians wallet then you can call it stealing.

Who and how is defined the common good?

[SilverWaxype]

Every country should have taxes, but in some countries is more than clear that taxes are the consecuence of corruption and bad admin.

[Rigorous]

Then we should talk about how to eliminate corruption.

[Sithara007]

It depends on how taxes are used. Taxes are good if they are used for the common good. But if it will end up inside the politicians wallet then you can call it stealing.

A large part of the tax inflows are nowadays used to cover the "administrative costs", i.e to pay salaries for the government employees. And even worse, they are sometimes used for unwanted military interventions and to sponsor terrorist activities.

[Elwar]

It is an unfortunate necessary evil in order for modern society to exist as it does. The income tax rate however I believe should be a flat rate for all income brackets, so we do not punish those for doing well.

Maybe modern society should not exist as it does. A society built on theft creates more problems than it fixes.

The fact is that at the expense of taxes, every state will bring it. Therefore, no country can exist without taxes. After all, we want to have social guarantees or even a good strong army that allows us to live in safety. This all needs money. Therefore, the replenishment of the state budget only at the expense of taxes. That's it about bets, that's another question. And it turns out that richer people pay less than the poorer people.

Source?

[Elwar]

Then we should talk about how to eliminate corruption.

Corruption is a symptom of people believing that extortion is morally acceptable.

[kryptoknightk]

Taxation makes sense, but taxing over 10% is something I would consider theft.

[hyunee]

Taxation for me was never a theft. It helps the government by building infrastructure that we people benefit from it. Taxation becomes a theft when the government abuse in collecting tax with the people. And i can't really see the meaning in collecting Value Added Tax (VAT). Yes, we collect taxes from the people through how much there salary is, but VAT? Hhmm

[Guzztsar]

These disagreements about the tax, may be related to each country.
Everyone who lives in a corrupt country, with high taxes, and poor infrastructure, feels stolen

[Elwar]

These disagreements about the tax, may be related to each country.
Everyone who lives in a corrupt country, with high taxes, and poor infrastructure, feels stolen

So...if someone takes something from you without your consent, it only matters if the person is corrupt to determine if someone took something from you without your consent (ie. theft).