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July 28, 2017, 06:39:34 AM
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.

I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
disOBEY could be dangerous, but 'evil' sounded like a joke.
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July 28, 2017, 07:07:47 AM
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Tax theft will make the state loss, the tax receives the state of the tax, the state of the tax will build the public facilities for the community, from tax theft happens, the country will be difficult to develop and its people suffer.
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July 28, 2017, 07:17:50 AM
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i  totally disagree on this one, we all know that everything you earn in this world is subject to taxation. it is in order for the society to run and grow. i find taxation theft when it is not regulated properly. specially when your tax serve as bribery or not being directed to the government funds but rather use in personal purposes
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July 28, 2017, 07:21:25 AM
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as long as the government uses the people's money for the way it should really be used then it is not..
but when this people seated begun to prioritize their personal interest then i'll call it thievery...


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July 28, 2017, 07:51:16 AM
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.

I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.

Local taxing agents use the tax money to enforce taxation collection that they do. It is a vicious cycle. If they didn't have the tax money, they wouldn't be able to enforce taxing people who didn't want to be taxed. It's like a big Mafia protection racket. Taxes are theft.

So, how did taxes get started in the first place. By people donating to a cause that they believed in. Then when the cause had success, the taxation never stopped, but rather, became the new focus of the cause. It was the taxation agents that did it. Rather than shutting down when the project was done, they said to themselves, "This source of funds for us is too great to shut down. We want more money from the people so we can live the good life." Because of this, we have a whole Government that lives the good life, supported by stealing from the rest of the people.

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July 28, 2017, 09:39:52 AM
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I am glad that there are so many people here on my side.

This weekend I went and robbed some old lady's house (she didn't even lock the door! ha!), but not to worry. I donated some of the money to charity after I went and bought some burgers for myself and I did not take all of her money so it was only a percentage.

Because the money was put to a good cause then it was not theft.

Thank you everyone for re-affirming the fact that I am not a thief.


I doubt the old lady would have donated her money to charity, which I believe is her duty. She should not get to decide on her own.


It is good to know that the action of taking her money without her consent can be deemed ok as long as another action later on negates that action.

Like if I kill someone but later I do a good deed...I did not commit murder.


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July 28, 2017, 10:46:38 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I think it depends on how the government use the taxes that they have collected from people. If it's used for the common good, then it's not stealing. But, if not then it can be considered stealing. Taxes should be used for everyone's good. People should benefit on the taxes that they have paid.
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July 28, 2017, 11:00:02 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Taxation is the government's way to earn fund. It depends on how the government officials use it. It's supposed to use for the people's convenience or projects that would help to improve the community. But, if it's not used properly then it can be considered as theft.
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July 28, 2017, 11:12:30 AM
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Taxes it's like food for the public body. Without them there can be not one country in the world. But politicians and officials have adapted to steal money from the budget. This leads to the impoverishment of the state and prosperity of thieves.
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July 28, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
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There is a saying here in my country. You have to do two things in life, you have to pay tax and you have to die.

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taxation is bad, especially when it is not transparent. I mean, who knows where they're spending those, and they only release public information in their convenience and when they do release, the accuracy of the information is still questionable. It is far better when the information were cryptographically verified. In that way, we can trust that the information is true. Just imagine if we can see our taxation through a bitcoin like system, looking your taxes at a block explorer.

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July 28, 2017, 03:30:11 PM
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Taxation is never good. An informed people along with their donation to causes they understand, is what is good and right.

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July 28, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
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Taxation is not theft or an act of thieving. Taxation is our share that we must give back to society that transforms into  government welfare services and others. It is just like going to school, if the students will not pay the tuition there will be no teachers, no classrooms, nothing only a barren land is there if there is no tuition fee. Paying taxes is like paying a pizza from a pizzahouse in exchange for the food. Taxation is like that, in exchange for justice, health services, protection and justice from criminality, road networks we pay taxes. If there are no taxes then who will build the roads, who will pay the police and military possibly there are countless chaos from warlords if there is no government. Taxes is the food of our government and of our nation without it we have no nation.
That's what they like us to think, not everything is transparent in all governments.
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July 28, 2017, 08:59:39 PM
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NO. Its a way that the government gets funds so they improve the country and develop stuff for our own benefits and comfort

Which they could get by asking people nicely, and itemizing and localizing things. Why the fuck should I pay for things that are at the other side of the country.

Keep development and organizations local. I'd pay happily for fixing the roads in my neighborhood. I'd not pay for fixing the roads that are hundreds if not thousands  of miles away from me  that I never used.

Plus there is the threat of violence, pay, or we send fascists with badges to your door.... Yeah fuck that.


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July 29, 2017, 06:18:50 AM
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Taxes it's like food for the public body. Without them there can be not one country in the world. But politicians and officials have adapted to steal money from the budget. This leads to the impoverishment of the state and prosperity of thieves.

Taxes are not necessary, at least the direct taxes. There can be indirect taxes such as the VAT and the GST. But you should also remember that there are a lot of nations around the world, which don't have any income tax. A few examples are the British Virgin Islands and the Bahamas.

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July 29, 2017, 08:49:13 AM
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.

I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.

Local taxing agents use the tax money to enforce taxation collection that they do. It is a vicious cycle. If they didn't have the tax money, they wouldn't be able to enforce taxing people who didn't want to be taxed. It's like a big Mafia protection racket. Taxes are theft.

So, how did taxes get started in the first place. By people donating to a cause that they believed in. Then when the cause had success, the taxation never stopped, but rather, became the new focus of the cause. It was the taxation agents that did it. Rather than shutting down when the project was done, they said to themselves, "This source of funds for us is too great to shut down. We want more money from the people so we can live the good life." Because of this, we have a whole Government that lives the good life, supported by stealing from the rest of the people.

Taxes and taxation are theft.

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A source told me that local tax agent's get a 10% commission on every tax cheater they find, out of the penalty they add.

For amounts under 15,000 EUR you usually don't go to jail, but they make you pay it back with interest + penalty, which could range as high as 200%.

So they catch you not paying 15,000 EUR, they slap a 200% Penalty on it, you must pay back 30000 EUR, out of which the tax agent that caught you gets 1500 EUR.

It's a total MAFIA RACKET. And then they go and harrass every small business owner every single day, to see if they are not cheating.

Man it's a total mafia racket, undeniable. All these idiots in this thread that defend taxation are brainwashed slaves.


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July 29, 2017, 09:22:58 AM
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Later actions alter past actions.

If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.

Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.

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If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.

Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.

It is, but you can fool them to think it's not.

And this is very funny with the tax returns that they do in the US.

Yout get robbed now, and at the end of the year you get back 10% of the stolen money, hurray free money, every sheep is fooled by it.

It's total mind control. Govern - Ment.


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July 29, 2017, 05:57:10 PM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

It depends if taxes are spent to help improve the community. But, usually politicians just keep the taxes for themselves, now that is stealing.
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July 29, 2017, 06:31:13 PM
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For all you jokers who like taxes. Why not tax 100%? Tax everything. Tax even your mind so that you become a robot to Government, not able to think on your own, because you free will was taxed away.

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