[MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 Proof-of-Work, launched in 2013

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

They both, gormadoc and dogemoon8888 told they received coins (that disappeared on June, 6)
about 2 years ago from multipool.us.
2 cases and the same source of coins, what could it be?

If you are a miner and mined at multipool.us, maybe some credentials or private keys were compromised?
Then if anyone mined at multipool.us before, you'd better immediately transfer your coins to the new Mooncoin address,
better to several paper wallets, generated on an oflline machine.

Another thing which came to mind: consensus issues with multipool.us?

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[Mooncoin_Foundation]

@ coinflow: Sounds like a good idea.

I don't know how to go ahead correctly...so it would be nice if agswinner can do that?
Thanks a lot.

It seems all right, because the coins come from the second  cryptsy address, which then vernon has moved, maybe the coins have disappeared for the protection implemented? Where or from whom germandoc bought the coins?

If he bought them on Cryptsy and transferred them to his own wallet before Cryptsy went down, they can also originate from the same address as the now blocked one (if that is/was Cryptsy's).

Gormadoc, could you explain further?

Dogemoon8888, when and where did you acquire your coins?

Hi，Coinflow

They are mined all in 2014 from multipool.us... No one mooncoin is bought.

Dogemoon8888

Gormadoc also PMd that all coins that disappeared he received in 2014-2015 from multipool.us.

[webvn2k]

I have just downloaded the moon wallet for sync but it's too long to finish the sync ( more 3 years to finish).
do you have a bootstrap.dat for faster sync? Please give me the link for this . Thank you.
The Bootstrap.dat downloaded but it's only 0 byte? maybe this link of bootstrap is failed.

Fast syncronizing?
Download blockchain files
Here a copy in my cloud https://ln.sync.com/dl/701a699e0/a7fidrdc-7b4vpyys-v32u6j8j-3sy5c9gk

Update your file copying this files in /user/appdata/ where wallet.dat is allocated
Synconized in 30 sec! 😀

Thank you  so much . it's started to sync only 3 seconds and Now it's running ok.  
Is this coin using POW or POS function  and May I solo-mine this coin ?

Here a copy in my cloud https://ln.sync.com/dl/701a699e0/a7fidrdc-7b4vpyys-v32u6j8j-3sy5c9gk

thank you very much, this is i need .

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

Hi James,

Since difficulty retargeting algorithm will have to be changed as it is obviously flawed in current mining environment (huge pools jumping in and out), a hardfork is needed to update this if I understand correctly?
I agree with you when a hardfork will be needed anyhow that updating the PoW algorithm could be a nice extra. Any algo's you're currently considering?
Could you also update the repository so the community can review changes being made and perhaps contribute and assist in updating the codebase?
Thanks for your efforts.

i've got a range and have discovered the candidate that is currently in place is not ideal; as there is a large (and arguably unfair) advantage given to GPU miners.
its not currently set in stone; but ideally i'd like to see a primarily cpu based algo - with gpu mining possible but not with any major (1.5-2x) advantage.

makes it fair for everyone
james

Well regarding the PoW algo that is good to hear progress has been made.
I do however got the feeling you are dodging my other questions.
Did anyone even review the code of the current mooncoin client?
People start missing coins and malware designed specifically to target mooncoin seems a bit off if you ask me. Malicious code baked into distributed binaries is however way more plausible.

The Mooncoin source code was reviewed many times.
MOON is listed at 5 exchanges, and every exchange audits the code before adding a coin (the whole exchange could depend on one backdoor in one coin, as in the case with Cryptsy), that's why be sure they review each coin they add.
Recently C-Cex added MOON, and they care a lot about their security.

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

That's why I keep my coins on various exchanges. But I only have a couple of millions

Exchanges are probably the worst place to keep coins if you want to keep them safely.
When you keep coins at exchanges, you don't control your private keys and fully depend on exchange admins.
Even if they are trustable, an exchange can be hacked and then very likely you will lose your coins forever.

That's exactly the case why so many people have lost coins at Cryptsy, they have made this mistake and you'd better never repeat that.

[coinflow]

They both, gormadoc and dogemoon8888 told they received coins (that disappeared on June, 6)
about 2 years ago from multipool.us.
2 cases and the same source of coins, what could it be?

If you are a miner and mined at multipool.us, maybe some credentials or private keys were compromised?
Then if anyone mined at multipool.us before, you'd better immediately transfer your coins to the new Mooncoin address,
better to several paper wallets, generated on an oflline machine.

Another thing which came to mind: consensus issues with multipool.us?

That does not have to do anything with this issue.
If you mine at multipool.us, you receive the coins automatically in intervals (based on the number of accumulated coins, as set by you) or you can initiate that on your own.

In any case the coins go - as with any pool - from the pool's address to another address in your wallet or at an exchange. Cryptsy, for example, had an auto-sell-feature; so as soon, as the coins arrived there from the pool, they were sold at the set price.

So it is completely irrelevant, whether someone bad had access to an account at a pool or someone is "not in consensus" with the pool's operator. As soon as the coins left the pool, all of these risks are non-existent anymore, if the miners already received their coins to their own wallets.
The problem is somewhere else.

[asepsetiawan1990]

Thank you people for your good words,
yes, Mooncoin is famous,
one author (Edit: his name is Mr. Chris P.Thompson
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.msg15708434#msg15708434)
even is in process of writing a book about Mooncoin:



However, everyone, newbies or not are welcome to Mooncoin.
Even if you came to crypto in 2016 and have no understanding of Altcoin old school ideas,
read and learn. Fairness is the key. Not profit only, not exchanges only matter.

Mooncoin is a fair coin with ongoing equal opportunities.

Edit: forgive us our loud words,
it was the 3rd anniversary of MOON today, it doesn't happen too often (with an altcoin especially).

Yes, the total supply of MOON is about 385 billion, enough coins for everyone, it was built with future in mind,
no prices (denominated in MOON) will look like 0.0000000000000000001.
MOON's inflation is quite low if you compare it to many other coins.

Wow, i am interested in all this, but i will explore more deeply about moon coins. At least my knowledge is growing about altcoin and adds to my experience in the world of cryptocurrency

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

@ coinflow: Sounds like a good idea.

I don't know how to go ahead correctly...so it would be nice if agswinner can do that?
Thanks a lot.

It seems all right, because the coins come from the second  cryptsy address, which then vernon has moved, maybe the coins have disappeared for the protection implemented? Where or from whom germandoc bought the coins?

If he bought them on Cryptsy and transferred them to his own wallet before Cryptsy went down, they can also originate from the same address as the now blocked one (if that is/was Cryptsy's).

No, top 2 blocked addresses were created significantly later (in several months after Cryptsy stopped all withdrawals).

[Mooncoin_Foundation]

They both, gormadoc and dogemoon8888 told they received coins (that disappeared on June, 6)
about 2 years ago from multipool.us.
2 cases and the same source of coins, what could it be?

If you are a miner and mined at multipool.us, maybe some credentials or private keys were compromised?
Then if anyone mined at multipool.us before, you'd better immediately transfer your coins to the new Mooncoin address,
better to several paper wallets, generated on an oflline machine.

Another thing which came to mind: consensus issues with multipool.us?

That does not have to do anything with this issue.
If you mine at multipool.us, you receive the coins automatically in intervals (based on the number of accumulated coins, as set by you) or you can initiate that on your own.

In any case the coins go - as with any pool - from the pool's address to another address in your wallet or at an exchange. Cryptsy, for example, had an auto-sell-feature; so as soon, as the coins arrived there from the pool, they were sold at the set price.

So it is completely irrelevant, whether someone bad had access to an account at a pool or someone is "not in consensus" with the pool's operator. As soon as the coins left the pool, all of these risks are non-existent anymore, if the miners already received their coins to their own wallets.
The problem is somewhere else.

I've never mined even 1 Mooncoin, so your experience is appreciated.
I've just received a PM from the 3rd member who had the same case, and again coins earned a couple of years ago and again from the pool.
Maybe he will post here. He told he only lost 1200 MOON in the same way.

What could it be? Why only mined coins disappeared (other coins remain in the wallet according to gormadoc)?
Obviously it had something to do with mining and pools, maybe with cgminer?

[ostsee77]

Who plays there every day     äääähh   today  ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#charts

[Goldsheik]

$0.000186

I bought all my MOON when it was $0.000250 

I'm an idiot.

[ostsee77]

$0.000186

I bought all my MOON when it was $0.000250 

I'm an idiot.

yes      

[polemarhos888]

Who plays there every day     äääähh   today  ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#charts

I think that someone or a team is trying to play this game today (mainly in Bleutrade) with one goal: The acquisition of most coins in these price levels !

[coinflow]

@ coinflow: Sounds like a good idea.

I don't know how to go ahead correctly...so it would be nice if agswinner can do that?
Thanks a lot.

It seems all right, because the coins come from the second  cryptsy address, which then vernon has moved, maybe the coins have disappeared for the protection implemented? Where or from whom germandoc bought the coins?

If he bought them on Cryptsy and transferred them to his own wallet before Cryptsy went down, they can also originate from the same address as the now blocked one (if that is/was Cryptsy's).

No, top 2 blocked addresses were created significantly later (in several months after Cryptsy stopped all withdrawals).

Of course they can:
Cryptsy-address --> Previous user (bought the coins and transferred to own wallet)
Cryptsy-address --> New address (blocked)

That's why I wrote "originated", not "were sent from".

But Gormadoc wrote he mined the coins, right? So how could they come from Cryptsy then or in other words: Cryptsy would play no role for that. Has somebody here checked the address and could list in detail? So we can see an example? agswinner? This is needed to make your previous posting clearer/more transparent for everyone here.

I have checked one and found this:

Mined to first address (no input available, hence mined), as reported by Gormadoc:
https://www.moonchain.net/tx/505877eae4102ebfe1e856069847df34e8370794792ad1e2ca549b40947300bd#o0

Transferred from wallet one to wallet two (as reported):
https://www.moonchain.net/tx/6d034ab7ae66a270001d670d20e62bb79da7aca35b5053826c2a655fe8919c57#i0

Transferred to next address (reportedly out of control of Gormadoc):
https://www.moonchain.net/tx/fd909b7e7900224430b1f67bcc526035eb42488bd3c553e8296f769cceb14947#i55

Then to the next one:
https://www.moonchain.net/tx/2cdf02797ff90c77f8c70250852951e6d97fd502a3af3e305605eb38aff6c420#i0

Then goes to this address (unspent):
https://www.moonchain.net/address/2apskwggiGTa2j8hB9SMffuWK8FAek1dc2

[Imro]

Anybody mining at http://5.45.105.66:9664 pool?
I mined there for a while, I even saw my MOON address on "Payout P2Pool-network" with expected reward and still after a week haven't received a penny.

[coinflow]

They both, gormadoc and dogemoon8888 told they received coins (that disappeared on June, 6)
about 2 years ago from multipool.us.
2 cases and the same source of coins, what could it be?

If you are a miner and mined at multipool.us, maybe some credentials or private keys were compromised?
Then if anyone mined at multipool.us before, you'd better immediately transfer your coins to the new Mooncoin address,
better to several paper wallets, generated on an oflline machine.

Another thing which came to mind: consensus issues with multipool.us?

That does not have to do anything with this issue.
If you mine at multipool.us, you receive the coins automatically in intervals (based on the number of accumulated coins, as set by you) or you can initiate that on your own.

In any case the coins go - as with any pool - from the pool's address to another address in your wallet or at an exchange. Cryptsy, for example, had an auto-sell-feature; so as soon, as the coins arrived there from the pool, they were sold at the set price.

So it is completely irrelevant, whether someone bad had access to an account at a pool or someone is "not in consensus" with the pool's operator. As soon as the coins left the pool, all of these risks are non-existent anymore, if the miners already received their coins to their own wallets.
The problem is somewhere else.

I've never mined even 1 Mooncoin, so your experience is appreciated.
I've just received a PM from the 3rd member who had the same case, and again coins earned a couple of years ago and again from the pool.
Maybe he will post here. He told he only lost 1200 MOON in the same way.

What could it be? Why only mined coins disappeared (other coins remain in the wallet according to gormadoc)?
Obviously it had something to do with mining and pools, maybe with cgminer?

If it was the fault of a mining software, then most probably it would make more sense to use any possible vulnerability for BTC or other very high volume coin. At least we cannot blame cgminer or any other software, until we know exactly. Do you know of any vulnerabilities of cgminer?

At least this needs serious investigation.

[luckyguy2807]

Who plays there every day     äääähh   today  ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#charts

I think that someone or a team is trying to play this game today (mainly in Bleutrade) with one goal: The acquisition of most coins in these price levels !

No, it was only one seller:) he sold a lot, i bet from block #1115659 or #1115665  (you need 25 confirmations on bleutrade).

And another one is coming #1115688

[coinflow]

Anybody mining at http://5.45.105.66:9664 pool?
I mined there for a while, I even saw my MOON address on "Payout P2Pool-network" with expected reward and still after a week haven't received a penny.

The problem is the low hashrate of the miners, currently there. See the first page, and you'll know, when to expect the next block: 2030 hrs, thats in ~84 days. So as long as there is no bigger miner with serious hashrate to find another block soon, you'll have to wait that long for a block to be found and get paid - and that's only an estimated average and based on luck, so could even last longer - or shorter.
That's why I told several times in this thread, that it is not profitable to mine with CPU or even GPU solo. You'll probably never find a block. Even if 20 or more CPU's are mining on a pool without additional higher hashrate miners.

[enigmatical]

Got new wallet on moonrush, someone sent me some mooncoin yet I can't I see my mooncoin reflecting in wallet??? What is the problem

[stefek99]

Who plays there every day     äääähh   today  ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/#charts

I think that someone or a team is trying to play this game today (mainly in Bleutrade) with one goal: The acquisition of most coins in these price levels !

No, it was only one seller:) he sold a lot, i bet from block #1115659 or #1115665  (you need 25 confirmations on bleutrade).

And another one is coming #1115688

How do you obtain such detailed information about block numbers?

Do you have some software analysing blocks?