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January 03, 2017, 06:46:31 AM
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Tipping should be abolished in the online world as well as in the real world. People who serve, regardless if it's just online or in a real restaurant, expects to be given some money for their job. So why not just declare a fixed fee for their services. So that people who use the service know how much he has to really pay and the server does not expect a random tip. Not to mention, if the tip was really small (or no tip at all), they will be mad.

Have you worked in a restaurant before? You get the worst verbal abuse in the service industry from people who think they know best, but seldom do. You have to take their shit day in and day out, without losing your temper. You spend many hours on your feet, running around to pleasure other people and most restaurant owners exploit their workers and pay them minimum wages.

I always tip 10% and much more, when the service was good, because I was in their shoes when I was still a student and working in restaurants for some spending money. I also paid for my own education and books, from my second part-time job.  

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January 03, 2017, 07:12:08 AM
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Most of us here are happy to hold on in what we have. Maybe its because we dont hold that much BTC in the first place. Maybe if I was a Bitcoin millionaire I would tip random people sometimes. But honestly speaking I think its a waste of BTC.

Exactly, maybe before when the price of bitcoin was not too high even the ones with less coins could tip someone with bitcoins but now a days if someone has a very limited amount of bitcoins then they would just think of holding them as the price is too high, and only the ones with a lot of bitcoins might think of tipping someone with them for a service or something.


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January 03, 2017, 12:08:58 PM
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If anyone is hoping to earn any tips on this forum, you're probably in the wrong place. It seems the vast majority of people are here to earn through signature campaigns (and alike) rather to spend/give away.

But, outside bitcointalk, the tipping/donating culture among bitcoiners still holds somewhat strong. Looking at any popular project, youtube channel, charity etc. that accept bitcoins, most do receive quite meaningful (and regular) btc income. Few examples:

WikiLeaks: over BTC4,007 received to the current address
FreeDomainRadio: over BTC669
even Lifeboats (RNLI) received almost BTC12 despite the fact that btc donation option is hidden and not accessible from the main page (you have to google search for it).

So if you're doing something that a lot of people find really useful, then there's a big chance you'll get some appreciation tips.



Exactly, maybe before when the price of bitcoin was not too high even the ones with less coins could tip someone with bitcoins but now a days if someone has a very limited amount of bitcoins then they would just think of holding them as the price is too high, and only the ones with a lot of bitcoins might think of tipping someone with them for a service or something.

I don't see how high btc price prevents anyone from tipping. You know you could just send smaller amount, right?
More of a problem are the high tx fees, it doesn't make much sense anymore to tip anyone with $1 worth, if you have to pay ie $0.50 fee.


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January 03, 2017, 02:52:57 PM
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Interesting post you got there. Yeah indeed, I haven't tried tipping anyone yet on the forum for anything I've gotten or any information that was helpful to me. However, it's because really about my limited coins and my current finances. If I would earning more than what I need, probably I would be tipping some btc to those that really helped me over here.

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January 03, 2017, 03:54:07 PM
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tipping is no different than spamming faucets isn't it? i would not waste my time with tipping if you want to earn something there is trading with binary option or signature campaign, there is also mining but you need to invest a lot there, but the risk are quite low though
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January 03, 2017, 08:11:25 PM
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you can look at tipping from the point of view of the person who tips(or supposed to tip)
it is simple-the tip is not obligatory,you can walk away without sending anything,but if you are satisfied with the service or a freebie recieved
you show your appreciation by sending some amount of money
most people here don't tip as it is slightly different from the real life procedure-put your hand in the pocket,get money/card-tip
to tip bitcoins one has to copy paste addy,open wallet,send coins,pay tx fee on top of the tip amount... some can't be bothered
from the point of view of a person who gets,or plans to get a tip
he simply spends time to find something and posts it for free,if he were to sell that ,nobody would probably buy it
so even if he gets nothing for his effort its not the end of the world
treat it this way and you will not have any problems while being on either side

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January 03, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
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People who are giving products and services for BTC "tipping" nowadays, is it truly worth for You?

I read that "tipping" does not work anymore because people prefer to download and then never tip even if they are nevertheless satisfied with the product. Also, I know that is why alot of people are selling their products for a hilariously low price because even selling for that price is said to be better than trusting in tips.
Not worth it, if you are doing a giveaway then someone may tip, but you must never rely on the tips because not many are going to do it or it is going to be a really small tip, so if you have a product , service or method is way better to sell even if the price is not very high.



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January 04, 2017, 01:39:20 AM
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If you are doing something for a tip it doesn't worth. Don't do things expecting to be rewarded by others. You won't survive by it and if you want to be tipped, set a price to the thing you are doing, offering, and you will know how much you will earn.
It's hard to find persons who will tip you, especially on this forum where the members don't have money. It you receive a tip, good for you, but don't wait for it...

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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.


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most people here don't tip as it is slightly different from the real life procedure-put your hand in the pocket,get money/card-tip
to tip bitcoins one has to copy paste addy,open wallet,send coins,pay tx fee on top of the tip amount... some can't be bothered
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if you have a wallet installed on the same device you're browsing the forum on, then sending btc is not much more difficult than tipping with cash. Problems are: tx fees, not everyone has an addy in the profile, the address could be from old and no longer used wallet, and the recipient wouldn't know (unless informed) what the received amount relates to.

The perfect solution would be the 'tip button' (all tips would be done off-chain) as suggested here, but that's unlikely ever going to happen (hope I'm wrong). They do have such button on Polish forum (forum.bitcoin.pl) and it works fine, there are plenty of tips flying around there despite relatively low forum activity.


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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.



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January 04, 2017, 11:47:29 PM
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Tipping should be abolished in the online world as well as in the real world. People who serve, regardless if it's just online or in a real restaurant, expects to be given some money for their job. So why not just declare a fixed fee for their services. So that people who use the service know how much he has to really pay and the server does not expect a random tip. Not to mention, if the tip was really small (or no tip at all), they will be mad.

Have you worked in a restaurant before? You get the worst verbal abuse in the service industry from people who think they know best, but seldom do. You have to take their shit day in and day out, without losing your temper. You spend many hours on your feet, running around to pleasure other people and most restaurant owners exploit their workers and pay them minimum wages.

I always tip 10% and much more, when the service was good, because I was in their shoes when I was still a student and working in restaurants for some spending money. I also paid for my own education and books, from my second part-time job.  
I rarely tip. I much prefer it if the restaurant charges a service fee. It's very seldom that one receives excellent service nowadays and yet they always expect a tip. When you make it a point not to leave one,(to express your dissatisfaction)you'd even hear them grumble sometimes.
Is it too much to ask that they do their jobs properly? They are being paid for their work.
And no, I have never worked in a restaurant before, nor have I ever turned to verbally abusing my servers. I have, however, a time or two, reported some to their managers when the service was just too deplorable.
I dunno, maybe it's just that tipping isn't too much a part of our culture, unlike in the US where it's almost a requirement that you always leave a tip. Woe to you if you do not. heh

As for the subject, based on my point of view and experience,
If I wanted to earn/hoping to get some money then I would charge a fee.  
If I were truly just offering the service/product/etc for free and wasn't really expecting to get anything then I'd just include a tipping address.
It'll just be a pleasant surprise if I get a tip, if not, then it's no biggie since it wasn't required/expected in the first place.


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January 05, 2017, 04:05:04 AM
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If anyone is hoping to earn any tips on this forum, you're probably in the wrong place. It seems the vast majority of people are here to earn through signature campaigns (and alike) rather to spend/give away.

But, outside bitcointalk, the tipping/donating culture among bitcoiners still holds somewhat strong. Looking at any popular project, youtube channel, charity etc. that accept bitcoins, most do receive quite meaningful (and regular) btc income. Few examples:

WikiLeaks: over BTC4,007 received to the current address
FreeDomainRadio: over BTC669
even Lifeboats (RNLI) received almost BTC12 despite the fact that btc donation option is hidden and not accessible from the main page (you have to google search for it).

So if you're doing something that a lot of people find really useful, then there's a big chance you'll get some appreciation tips.



Exactly, maybe before when the price of bitcoin was not too high even the ones with less coins could tip someone with bitcoins but now a days if someone has a very limited amount of bitcoins then they would just think of holding them as the price is too high, and only the ones with a lot of bitcoins might think of tipping someone with them for a service or something.

I don't see how high btc price prevents anyone from tipping. You know you could just send smaller amount, right?
More of a problem are the high tx fees, it doesn't make much sense anymore to tip anyone with $1 worth, if you have to pay ie $0.50 fee.

Indeed I agree, the fact is that tipping is still worth it and you can stay doing it even with lower amounts right, so what is the problem..
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January 05, 2017, 07:19:22 AM
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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.

That guys name is Roger Ver also known as the Bitcoin Jesus if I have my facts right. Hes still a millionaire and have invested millions in different BTC companies. Im sure he doesnt regret buying those pizzas with 10,000 BTC.


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January 05, 2017, 11:27:43 AM
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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.

That guys name is Roger Ver also known as the Bitcoin Jesus if I have my facts right. Hes still a millionaire and have invested millions in different BTC companies. Im sure he doesnt regret buying those pizzas with 10,000 BTC.

Wrong, Roger Ver was not the pizza guy. It was Laszlo Hanyecz (laszlo), it happened here on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141

See his last posts from 2014, he claims to have spent it all on those 2 pizzas. But at least someone tipped him 1 btc.


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January 05, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.

That guys name is Roger Ver also known as the Bitcoin Jesus if I have my facts right. Hes still a millionaire and have invested millions in different BTC companies. Im sure he doesnt regret buying those pizzas with 10,000 BTC.

Wrong, Roger Ver was not the pizza guy. It was Laszlo Hanyecz (laszlo), it happened here on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141

See his last posts from 2014, he claims to have spent it all on those 2 pizzas. But at least someone tipped him 1 btc.

Thanks, so that was him who was the famous guy that bought pizzas for 10,000. I guess that was just cents way back then for him.

I'm thinking about the person who receive that 10,000 bitcoins if he has still save some of those.

Because I think laszlo does have millions of bitcoins and he is just now sitting around watching people that talks about him.

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January 06, 2017, 02:40:55 AM
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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.

That guys name is Roger Ver also known as the Bitcoin Jesus if I have my facts right. Hes still a millionaire and have invested millions in different BTC companies. Im sure he doesnt regret buying those pizzas with 10,000 BTC.

Wrong, Roger Ver was not the pizza guy. It was Laszlo Hanyecz (laszlo), it happened here on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141

See his last posts from 2014, he claims to have spent it all on those 2 pizzas. But at least someone tipped him 1 btc.

Thanks, so that was him who was the famous guy that bought pizzas for 10,000. I guess that was just cents way back then for him.

I'm thinking about the person who receive that 10,000 bitcoins if he has still save some of those.

Because I think laszlo does have millions of bitcoins and he is just now sitting around watching people that talks about him.

not neccessarily
he can be sitting and tearing his hair one by one since 2013 Grin
10.000 coins is roughly 10 mil USD
so at least he is the guy who bought the most expensive pizza in the world

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January 06, 2017, 03:52:13 AM
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People who are giving products and services for BTC "tipping" nowadays, is it truly worth for You?

I read that "tipping" does not work anymore because people prefer to download and then never tip even if they are nevertheless satisfied with the product. Also, I know that is why alot of people are selling their products for a hilariously low price because even selling for that price is said to be better than trusting in tips.

Well tipping depends on luck because if people don't appreciate your work then obviously they are not going to tip you that much. If your target audience are stingy cheap people then you're not going to get tipped either. However if your audience is rich generous people, then they are more probable to tip.

I'd prefer half advertisement and half tipping, to be honest.

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Tipping is still worth it and the fact is that you can simply give a low amount that does not care its about the fact that you need, it still make sense these days.
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Tipping was mostly good at the beginning when BTC wasnt that popular. I achieved a few things like the recepient of those tips had a chance to try the new technology. At the same time it helped spread the word about BTC and tipping was partly what made it popular. The legendary stories of the 10,000 BTC pizza also helped in its rise to fame.
How we could forget the guy that bought pizza with bitcoin, what do you think he is thinking now that the price of bitcoin seems to go to an all time high? He could have millions of dollars by now.

That guys name is Roger Ver also known as the Bitcoin Jesus if I have my facts right. Hes still a millionaire and have invested millions in different BTC companies. Im sure he doesnt regret buying those pizzas with 10,000 BTC.

Wrong, Roger Ver was not the pizza guy. It was Laszlo Hanyecz (laszlo), it happened here on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141

See his last posts from 2014, he claims to have spent it all on those 2 pizzas. But at least someone tipped him 1 btc.

Thanks, so that was him who was the famous guy that bought pizzas for 10,000. I guess that was just cents way back then for him.

I'm thinking about the person who receive that 10,000 bitcoins if he has still save some of those.

Because I think laszlo does have millions of bitcoins and he is just now sitting around watching people that talks about him.

not neccessarily
he can be sitting and tearing his hair one by one since 2013 Grin
10.000 coins is roughly 10 mil USD
so at least he is the guy who bought the most expensive pizza in the world

And it seems that 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas seems to be a tip for him and no value at all. Because even me, if way back then bitcoin is still low valued crypto.

I will not hesitate to use it to make my investment from keep on rolling and will be used.

Do someone any news about him and that guy who bought him pizzas?

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