|
TheDarKnight (OP)
|
 |
April 12, 2013, 02:59:13 AM |
|
After the artificially fixed prices of the last 2 days, we are now trading quite positively due to traders and speculators returning to their seats after the closedown of the mtgox bourse earlier today. Prices are trending over $130 USD and may either rise or fall. Does anyone have a good take on this? I'd like to know what people think will happen next, what are the market factors in play at the present minute?..
|
Please consider trading on bter.com via my referral link shown here, it's a great site for profit with a wide selection of currencies and low fees. https://bter.com/signup/1566Ziftrcoin tips please! ZZK4rj1yPRKjmZ26y9tvWq8oeEDUwiV31R |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Even if you use Bitcoin through Tor, the way transactions are handled by the network makes anonymity difficult to achieve. Do not expect your transactions to be anonymous unless you really know what you're doing.
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
tclo
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:14:07 AM |
|
After the artificially fixed prices of the last 2 days, we are now trading quite positively due to traders and speculators returning to their seats after the closedown of the mtgox bourse earlier today. Prices are trending over $130 USD and may either rise or fall. Does anyone have a good take on this? I'd like to know what people think will happen next, what are the market factors in play at the present minute?..
Most likely, there will be more volatility and then it will settle and start to trend downwards just like the last bubble in 2011. But it probably won't go back down to $10...probably more like $25 to $40. Then the wait until the next bubble. |
|
|
|
|
|
Sage
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:15:22 AM |
|
I would looking at the charts where there was flash crashes at the blockchain fork. And how quickly that rebounded.
Take the exchanges out of the equation, and that is the only real data point for the Bitcoin architecture to go by.
The exchange problem is a temporary problem. The bitcoin community will solve it with a decentralized exchange. Once that is removed the price will reflect the fundamental value.
Think about this:
Western Union has a market cap over 8 billion. 8 billion for an antiquated system. What do you think the market cap of Bitcoin should be?
Well above that. Once Bitcoin usage is anything close to Western Union, by that metric along Bitcoin should be well over $800 per coin (likely a lot more).
But it can't get there with the current constraint of the money flowing in (mtgox). We need a decentralized exchange!
|
|
|
|
|
Elwar
Legendary
 Offline
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2384
Viva Ut Vivas
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:19:26 AM |
|
Does anyone know where the BTC price is heading? QFT |
First seastead company actually selling sea homes: Ocean Builders https://ocean.builders Of course we accept bitcoin. |
|
|
Peleus
Member
Offline
Activity: 112
Merit: 100
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:26:29 AM |
|
Yes, we all know exactly what's going to happen, we're just not telling you.
|
|
|
|
|
koin
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 873
Merit: 1000
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:26:47 AM |
|
After the artificially fixed prices of the last 2 days, we are now trading quite positively due to traders and speculators returning to their seats after the closedown of the mtgox bourse earlier today. Prices are trending over $130 USD and may either rise or fall. Does anyone have a good take on this? I'd like to know what people think will happen next, what are the market factors in play at the present minute?..
in the next hours, there will be people who bought during the bubble realizing they don't know bitcoin and they don't know trading. they will be selling, no matter the price. those that don't are following the psychology that finds that unsophisticated traders don't like to take losses. so many will sell as soon as they can break even. every time bitcoin hits a new high up since dropping to the $65 low there will be resistance from those who bought at that level. so don't expect a run back up to $250 without being matched by heavy sell orders each step of the way. but it is going there. the keynesians and others affiliated with the media may be pleased with a price crash and do everything they can to make the most of it. but remember, the exchange rate was $13 something at the beginning of the year and thirty something at the end of february. so even at $60 that's still up 350% or something like that. this selloff will settle at some base before resuming the day-to-day ascent. because bitcoin's supply is limited while its demand can keep growing, that rise will come and will attract short term speculators once again. just it will be slower next time. |
|
|
|
|
Mike Christ
aka snapsunny
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:27:58 AM |
|
Yes, we all know exactly what's going to happen, we're just not telling you.
Sorry OP, but he's right. You're the only man out. It's not that we don't like you... |
|
|
|
|
|
CorvusCorax
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
|
|
April 12, 2013, 03:36:46 AM |
|
I'm hoping some people on the fence will see BTC prices still reading around $100 and not panic sell, which would stabilize the price somewhat and we can get back to using it for commerce as intended, but time will tell. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see it around $15 in the morning.
|
|
|
|
|
|
hgmichna
|
|
April 12, 2013, 06:34:47 AM |
|
Most likely, there will be more volatility and then it will settle and start to trend downwards just like the last bubble in 2011. But it probably won't go back down to $10...probably more like $25 to $40. Then the wait until the next bubble.
I think your estimate is pretty much correct, except that I would say it is still a little bit on the high side. My estimate for the low point is $20, but I would not be surprised at all to see single digits later this year or next. After the 2011 bubble I get this feeling that, unlike more mature markets, bitcoin is attracting newbies so fast that the decline after a price bubble turns into the run-up to the next bubble already before its base value is actually reached. People have not learned from the 2011 bubble. Will they learn from the 2013 bubble? On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays I tend to think that they never learn, but then I will get rich.  |
|
|
|
|
|
opticbit
|
|
April 12, 2013, 06:54:30 AM |
|
if we knew where it was going to be, we wouldn't be sitting on a forum, we'd be sitting on a yacht in the tropics.
|
|
|
|
|
datguyian
|
|
April 12, 2013, 06:59:03 AM |
|
Of course! We all do! Haven't you read the rest of the threads in the speculation forum? Every knows exactly what's going to happen next. Just give it a look, and you will know exactly what you should do next.
|
|
|
|
|
hgmichna
|
|
April 12, 2013, 07:53:50 AM |
|
To really answer the question, yes, some do know.
Those who don't give those who do their money.
|
|
|
|
|
|
wopwop
|
|
April 12, 2013, 07:54:38 AM |
|
its going UP yes ITS OFFICIAL now
fundamentals are support strong
fibonacci retracement holding out on the TA charts
BUY or regret later (again)
|
|
|
|
|
gizmoh
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
|
|
April 12, 2013, 08:00:45 AM |
|
76 is my call
|
How Ripple Rips you: "The founders of Ripple Labs created 100 billion XRP at Ripple's inception. No more can be created according to the rules of the Ripple protocol. Of the 100 billion created, 20 billion XRP were retained by the creators, seeders, venture capital companies and other founders. The remaining 80 billion were given to Ripple Labs. Ripple Labs intends to distribute and sell 55 of that 80 billion XRP to users and strategic partners. Ripple Labs also had a giveaway of under 200 million XRP (0.002% of all XRP) via World Community Grid that was later discontinued.[29] Ripple Labs will retain the remaining 25 billion"
|
|
|
|
ManBearPig
|
|
April 12, 2013, 08:04:05 AM |
|
Short-term: down (up-down-up-down)
Mid-term: up
Long-term: up (up and away)
That's my numberless and amateur prediction.
|
|
|
|
|
wopwop
|
|
April 12, 2013, 08:05:04 AM |
|
Short-term: down (up-down-up-down)
Mid-term: up
Long-term: up (up and away)
That's my numberless and amateur prediction.
hihi up down up these words are so funny up down hihihihi |
|
|
|
|
|
hgmichna
|
|
April 12, 2013, 08:16:17 AM |
|
Short-term: down (up-down-up-down)
Mid-term: up
Long-term: up (up and away)
That's my numberless and amateur prediction.
Your prediction is better than most. You forgot: Very long-term: zero. Nothing lives forever, and bitcoin, unfortunately, can also die a sudden death for various reasons. One of these reasons could be some hypothetical bitcoin 2 that comes along, is better, and steals the show. |
|
|
|
|
|
juve4v
|
|
April 12, 2013, 08:21:59 AM |
|
UP! Its already happening .
|
|
|
|
|
|
ManBearPig
|
|
April 12, 2013, 08:26:47 AM |
|
Short-term: down (up-down-up-down)
Mid-term: up
Long-term: up (up and away)
That's my numberless and amateur prediction.
Your prediction is better than most. You forgot: Very long-term: zero. Nothing lives forever, and bitcoin, unfortunately, can also die a sudden death for various reasons. One of these reasons could be some hypothetical bitcoin 2 that comes along, is better, and steals the show. Of course perhaps you're right but there's plenty of fun to be had along the way! |
|
|
|
|
