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January 16, 2017, 09:39:08 AM
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I sure peoples that have many money not save their money to bitcoin, this is because they know the price bitcoin is not stable and full risky. If they want money laundering, maybe will save in the others name to save to bank.

Could be, but you have to consider that investing black money into all kinds of things with value has much more priority than having that money sleeping in bank accounts. In this case I am more referring to black money gained through criminal activity. They won't mind the volatility of Bitcoin that much as they realize that the growth potential is also offering a helping hand. It's a good way to hide black money, plus it can turn out to be a fantastic investment as well. Same basically goes up for other wealthy individuals, but they treat their money with a bit more care, and thus look for the least possible risks when it comes to hiding that money.

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January 16, 2017, 09:43:43 AM
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An Assistant FBI said that the investigators could trace the flow of money from the criminals through bitcoin.

The image above shows how investigators track the flow of money so that eventually the pejahat be caught.

Ten men suspected of using the digital currency Bitcoin to launder up to 20 million euros ($22 million) of criminal money made from online drug deals have been arrested in the Netherlands, Dutch prosecutors said on Wednesday. i have link http://www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-crime-bitcoin-idUSKCN0UY0V8

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January 16, 2017, 02:26:48 PM
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An Assistant FBI said that the investigators could trace the flow of money from the criminals through bitcoin.

The image above shows how investigators track the flow of money so that eventually the pejahat be caught.

Ten men suspected of using the digital currency Bitcoin to launder up to 20 million euros ($22 million) of criminal money made from online drug deals have been arrested in the Netherlands, Dutch prosecutors said on Wednesday. i have link http://www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-crime-bitcoin-idUSKCN0UY0V8
Well, this post is a great example for those who are still trying to launder their activities using bitcoin. Like it was said, the online transaction is the public ledger and anyone can access it, this people who are working with the authorities are hired because they are smart and they can do the job well. I guess the discussion is very clear for up, thanks for providing it.

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January 16, 2017, 05:36:11 PM
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An Assistant FBI said that the investigators could trace the flow of money from the criminals through bitcoin.

The image above shows how investigators track the flow of money so that eventually the pejahat be caught.

Ten men suspected of using the digital currency Bitcoin to launder up to 20 million euros ($22 million) of criminal money made from online drug deals have been arrested in the Netherlands, Dutch prosecutors said on Wednesday. i have link http://www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-crime-bitcoin-idUSKCN0UY0V8
Well, this post is a great example for those who are still trying to launder their activities using bitcoin. Like it was said, the online transaction is the public ledger and anyone can access it, this people who are working with the authorities are hired because they are smart and they can do the job well. I guess the discussion is very clear for up, thanks for providing it.

again, o explained several times that the online mixers are utter garbage and explained how we properly hide coin tx's

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January 16, 2017, 06:09:38 PM
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with anon coins available they brought it on themself.
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with anon coins available they brought it on themself.

who brought what on?  this is a discussion about no one in particular

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January 17, 2017, 12:54:18 AM
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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

Cool

This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.
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January 17, 2017, 01:01:21 AM
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IMO all the cryptos is really good for laundering, the reason why is because in the past few year

Where people even sell buy drugs for MOl point, and resell Mol credits back to 7eleven.

Imagine, theres a coin which called as LaundryCoin

Whenever people wanted to wash from black to white
They will just purchase the actual currency for the black money, where the currency have a fix intrinsic value, resell to exchange and get back?

Just my opinion tho, not really having great knowledge in money laundering, but anything virtual enable ease of it

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January 17, 2017, 01:22:24 AM
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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

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This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.

the prices are fine, just because the exchanges have those prices is no reason to be trading at that price

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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

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This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.

maybe they do this without anybody know because if they buy bitcoin with third party or not, the other people don't know where the money come from and being used for what, but if they already have bitcoin then its easy to them to sell the amount when the bitcoin price is high. i believe that there is money laundering via btc, because we can not know what kind of transaction that being used by many people in outside.

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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

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This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.

maybe they do this without anybody know because if they buy bitcoin with third party or not, the other people don't know where the money come from and being used for what, but if they already have bitcoin then its easy to them to sell the amount when the bitcoin price is high. i believe that there is money laundering via btc, because we can not know what kind of transaction that being used by many people in outside.

sometimes i have no clue what it is that people are saying, i get about half of your meaning, but that was already addressed two pages back, so i must be getting it wrong

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January 17, 2017, 02:10:22 AM
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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

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This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.

maybe they do this without anybody know because if they buy bitcoin with third party or not, the other people don't know where the money come from and being used for what, but if they already have bitcoin then its easy to them to sell the amount when the bitcoin price is high. i believe that there is money laundering via btc, because we can not know what kind of transaction that being used by many people in outside.

sometimes i have no clue what it is that people are saying, i get about half of your meaning, but that was already addressed two pages back, so i must be getting it wrong

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January 17, 2017, 07:15:37 AM
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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

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This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.

maybe they do this without anybody know because if they buy bitcoin with third party or not, the other people don't know where the money come from and being used for what, but if they already have bitcoin then its easy to them to sell the amount when the bitcoin price is high. i believe that there is money laundering via btc, because we can not know what kind of transaction that being used by many people in outside.

sometimes i have no clue what it is that people are saying, i get about half of your meaning, but that was already addressed two pages back, so i must be getting it wrong
Then simply don't right anything without understanding the topic, you can check google for the complete information regarding money laundering act. Some here are just saying based on their opinion and some does not even understand what is money laundering act and why it's created. Just saying, hope we read more and post less.

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January 17, 2017, 09:22:29 AM
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I think that money laundering would be a little easier if more people used Bitcoin.

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This is very likely, everyone will use bitcoin for money laundering. but with prices down like this, certainly they thought of canceling if saving money in bitcoin.
Maybe a criminal could be waiting but it could be for different reason, if a criminal wanted to launder his money then why not obtain a profit in the process? So, the criminal buys now when the price is low and waits until the next rise in price, that way he launders his money and obtains even more money in the process.

maybe they do this without anybody know because if they buy bitcoin with third party or not, the other people don't know where the money come from and being used for what, but if they already have bitcoin then its easy to them to sell the amount when the bitcoin price is high. i believe that there is money laundering via btc, because we can not know what kind of transaction that being used by many people in outside.

sometimes i have no clue what it is that people are saying, i get about half of your meaning, but that was already addressed two pages back, so i must be getting it wrong
Money laundering is a financial crime types. So someone would put they money that get from illegal means such as drug sales, weapons, corruption, bribery and so on. Bitcoin is a very good thing to be used for money laundering. This is what we feared, thus making the countries will be prohibit bitcoin.
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January 17, 2017, 09:36:26 AM
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It is very much possible to do money laundering using BTC and I am sure that many criminals are using this route. Not just Bitcoin, other coins like ETH  is also used for the same purpose.

But criminals will criminals, if we are earning money in a good way and our records are clean, then I don't think we will have to worry about anything till the time our government doesn't start cracking up bitcoin holders.

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January 17, 2017, 11:30:40 AM
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It is very much possible to do money laundering using BTC and I am sure that many criminals are using this route. Not just Bitcoin, other coins like ETH  is also used for the same purpose.

But criminals will criminals, if we are earning money in a good way and our records are clean, then I don't think we will have to worry about anything till the time our government doesn't start cracking up bitcoin holders.

exactly
almost virtual currencies are difficult to manage
this leads to money laundering using virtual money
it is difficult to prevent
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January 17, 2017, 11:36:12 AM
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It is very much possible to do money laundering using BTC and I am sure that many criminals are using this route. Not just Bitcoin, other coins like ETH  is also used for the same purpose.

But criminals will criminals, if we are earning money in a good way and our records are clean, then I don't think we will have to worry about anything till the time our government doesn't start cracking up bitcoin holders.

exactly
almost virtual currencies are difficult to manage
this leads to money laundering using virtual money
it is difficult to prevent
without bitcoin money laundering have also been massive, take a look at the case of Panama, it is just like an iceberg, little seen but in fact very remarkable. the existence of the bitcoin can of course be means of effective again for money laundering.
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January 17, 2017, 11:40:05 AM
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Money laundering via BTC is more or less irrelevent, as far a I know.

The thing about money laundering is, people already do it in large sums with paypal and debit cards.

One common technique is for money launderers to open a smart phone app store with an app that doesn't do anything.

They might open an android app store with an app that calculates farenheit to celsius temperatures.

Then they buy 1,000,000 of those iphone apps using paypal or debit cards to launder their cash.

No bitcoin required.

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January 17, 2017, 12:15:34 PM
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Money laundering via BTC is more or less irrelevent, as far a I know.

The thing about money laundering is, people already do it in large sums with paypal and debit cards.

One common technique is for money launderers to open a smart phone app store with an app that doesn't do anything.

They might open an android app store with an app that calculates farenheit to celsius temperatures.

Then they buy 1,000,000 of those iphone apps using paypal or debit cards to launder their cash

Have you invented this idea yourself?

Anyway, this most certainly won't work out as intended. Don't think of anti-money laundering agencies and similar agencies as well as their staff as complete idiots. They will certainly get interested how you managed to sell 1M copies of an app which basically does nothing and who actually bought it. They will call Google to provide the details of the transactions, and there you will have hard time explaining why all these millions of copies were purchased and downloaded, say, from one IP address. This will end up as fraudulent deals, and you will only betray yourself since why would you want to go with that unless you wanted to do or hide something illegal (e.g. look for money laundering)?

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January 17, 2017, 03:16:44 PM
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Money laundering via BTC is more or less irrelevent, as far a I know.

The thing about money laundering is, people already do it in large sums with paypal and debit cards.

One common technique is for money launderers to open a smart phone app store with an app that doesn't do anything.

They might open an android app store with an app that calculates farenheit to celsius temperatures.

Then they buy 1,000,000 of those iphone apps using paypal or debit cards to launder their cash

Have you invented this idea yourself?

Anyway, this most certainly won't work out as intended. Don't think of anti-money laundering agencies and similar agencies as well as their staff as complete idiots. They will certainly get interested how you managed to sell 1M copies of an app which basically does nothing and who actually bought it. They will call Google to provide the details of the transactions, and there you will have hard time explaining why all these millions of copies were purchased and downloaded, say, from one IP address. This will end up as fraudulent deals, and you will only betray yourself since why would you want to go with that unless you wanted to do or hide something illegal (e.g. look for money laundering)

he is just expanding another way to launder money that many have used and he has it all jacked up is all

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