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April 13, 2013, 12:02:39 PM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

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April 13, 2013, 12:07:23 PM
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There are basically only two racists on this forum.

Antibanker and Mystery Miner.

And for shutting down their threads;

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April 13, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
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I banned antibanker yesterday if that's who you're talking about. His posting was far too off topic in nearly every thread he posted in. This is bitcointalk, not jewtalk.

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April 13, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
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There are basically only two racists on this forum.

Antibanker and Mystery Miner.

And for shutting down their threads;

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I disapprove of what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

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Free speech man.

Free speech doesn't come into it, this forum at least maintains the pretence of being better moderated than 4chan. What do you think would happen if literally half the threads in the mining forums were by a butterfly labs employee talking about their new rigs? They would be forced to merge threads or get banned, nobody would be allowed to spam any other section in this way.

Why does this forum allow two crazy racists to dominate the politics and society section?

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April 13, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
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I banned antibanker yesterday if that's who you're talking about. His posting was far too off topic in nearly every thread he posted in. This is bitcointalk, not jewtalk.

I see, I didn't notice him being banned. Nice to know someone is keeping an eye on the problem.

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April 13, 2013, 12:20:43 PM
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There are basically only two racists on this forum.

Antibanker and Mystery Miner.

And for shutting down their threads;

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I disapprove of what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

Free speech man.

Free speech doesn't come into it, this forum at least maintains the pretence of being better moderated than 4chan. What do you think would happen if literally half the threads in the mining forums were by a butterfly labs employee talking about their new rigs? They would be forced to merge threads or get banned, nobody would be allowed to spam any other section in this way.

Why does this forum allow two crazy racists to dominate the politics and society section?

Just checked the politcs & society Board. Yes you are right. I wasn't aware that antibanker made so many threads.

This can be counted as spamming, which is a different thing.

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April 13, 2013, 12:22:57 PM
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There are basically only two racists on this forum.

Antibanker and Mystery Miner.

And for shutting down their threads;

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I disapprove of what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

Free speech man.

Free speech doesn't come into it, this forum at least maintains the pretence of being better moderated than 4chan. What do you think would happen if literally half the threads in the mining forums were by a butterfly labs employee talking about their new rigs? They would be forced to merge threads or get banned, nobody would be allowed to spam any other section in this way.

Why does this forum allow two crazy racists to dominate the politics and society section?

Just checked the politcs & society Board. Yes you are right. I wasn't aware that antibanker made so many threads.

This can be counted as spamming, which is a different thing.

My bad for not mentioning that it was just a few thread starters.

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April 13, 2013, 12:30:02 PM
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I banned antibanker yesterday if that's who you're talking about. His posting was far too off topic in nearly every thread he posted in. This is bitcointalk, not jewtalk.
Ummm... Did you know theymos has moved antibanker's posts to jew.bitcointalk.org with a bunch of weird metal eagle pictures and animated gifs of jews (with horns...) taking gas showers.

wtf is that?!
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April 13, 2013, 12:33:53 PM
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I banned antibanker yesterday if that's who you're talking about. His posting was far too off topic in nearly every thread he posted in. This is bitcointalk, not jewtalk.
Ummm... Did you know theymos has moved antibanker's posts to jew.bitcointalk.org with a bunch of weird metal eagle pictures and animated gifs of jews (with horns...) taking gas showers.

wtf is that?!

That would be pretty funny (the moving his posts part). I would suggest NSDAP.bitcointalk.org instead.

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April 13, 2013, 12:48:23 PM
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I just learned a Russia Today reporter promotes bitcoin, which answers the title question IMO.

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April 13, 2013, 01:13:23 PM
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I banned antibanker yesterday if that's who you're talking about. His posting was far too off topic in nearly every thread he posted in. This is bitcointalk, not jewtalk.
Ummm... Did you know theymos has moved antibanker's posts to jew.bitcointalk.org with a bunch of weird metal eagle pictures and animated gifs of jews (with horns...) taking gas showers.

wtf is that?!

I'll admit it, I clicked.

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April 13, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
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Politics and Society is mostly self-policed. Assholes get shouted down pretty quickly.

Doesn't stop them from making new posts, but it makes the actual opinion of the forum clear to anyone who actually clicks the threads.

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April 13, 2013, 06:15:43 PM
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I'm surprised he didn't leave earlier.  He was pretty much put in his place day one.

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April 14, 2013, 12:38:08 AM
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He's baaaaa-aaack....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98842

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April 14, 2013, 12:42:18 AM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

we would need a clear definition of anticematism first. I recognize that a disproportionate number of the down right nastiest people on the planet are jews. But i would never judge someone just for being jewish, i would never deny someone an opportunity because they are jewish, i would never treat someone unfairly just because they are jewish. Am i an antisemite? some would say yes some would say no, what do you think?

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April 14, 2013, 12:43:49 AM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

we would need a clear definition of anticematism first. I recognize that a disproportionate number of the down right nastiest people on the planet are jews. But i would never judge someone just for being jewish, i would never deny someone an opportunity because they are jewish, i would never treat someone unfairly just because they are jewish. Am i an antisemite? some would say yes some would say no, what do you think?

You're only an anti-Semite if you're outward against Jews.  If you're internally against Jews, and nobody ever knows about it, nobody could say you were.

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April 14, 2013, 12:52:59 AM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

we would need a clear definition of anticematism first. I recognize that a disproportionate number of the down right nastiest people on the planet are jews. But i would never judge someone just for being jewish, i would never deny someone an opportunity because they are jewish, i would never treat someone unfairly just because they are jewish. Am i an antisemite? some would say yes some would say no, what do you think?
Clearly no. Antisemitism is racism, specifically against Jews. You are capable of separating the actions of the few from the ethnic characteristics they share with the many. Racism is the lack of that ability.

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April 14, 2013, 12:53:31 AM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

we would need a clear definition of anticematism first. I recognize that a disproportionate number of the down right nastiest people on the planet are jews. But i would never judge someone just for being jewish, i would never deny someone an opportunity because they are jewish, i would never treat someone unfairly just because they are jewish. Am i an antisemite? some would say yes some would say no, what do you think?

You're only an anti-Semite if you're outward against Jews.  If you're internally against Jews, and nobody ever knows about it, nobody could say you were.

Antisemitism is basically "racism against Jews". Being anti Israel doesn't equal antisemitism.
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April 14, 2013, 01:17:24 AM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

we would need a clear definition of anticematism first. I recognize that a disproportionate number of the down right nastiest people on the planet are jews. But i would never judge someone just for being jewish, i would never deny someone an opportunity because they are jewish, i would never treat someone unfairly just because they are jewish. Am i an antisemite? some would say yes some would say no, what do you think?

You're only an anti-Semite if you're outward against Jews.  If you're internally against Jews, and nobody ever knows about it, nobody could say you were.

Antisemitism is basically "racism against Jews". Being anti Israel doesn't equal antisemitism.

Maybe, but Israel =/= the Jewish religion, just like being anti-Christian doesn't necessarily mean you hate America and the UK.

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April 14, 2013, 01:45:21 AM
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And why doesn't the forum appoint a moderator to shut down the obviously racist threads?

I never understood why people are racists, hating jews or any other group for that matter. First off, in any group there will be assholes and angels, although sometimes an ethnic and/or religious group may have certain traits that I do not approve of much, but I don't hate them. I may think they're totally whack though, but I don't see that as hating. Hate is a strong word.

Also, when it comes to racism - I wonder if racists lack intellect. If they would be able to look at it from the outside:

1. Hating is not going to make you a better person, or make you feel better about your life.
2. What if the anger and hate was directed towards you from someone else, let's say someone not liking a jew had people hating him because he was an Italian. Would that be fun ? People hating on you, just because your parents are jewish, british, indian or whatever ?

Racism doesn't make sense, and often one can see it is very hard to do a civilized and calm debate with a person with a lot of hate within. Often those doesn't have peace, and the outward hate reflects on their personality. So, in reality they would rather have to work on their internal issues.

Perhaps this is relevant: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/right-wing-extremism-the-village-where-the-neo-nazis-rule-a-737471.html
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