Trump will crash the markets and bitcoin and gold will go to Jupiter

[BillyBobZorton]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

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[aardvark15]

I agree that if he screws up the economy, there will be some people that will try to find a safe haven for their money. Hopefully that will be Bitcoin. We just don't know how much he will screw things up yet.

[BillyBobZorton]

I agree that if he screws up the economy, there will be some people that will try to find a safe haven for their money. Hopefully that will be Bitcoin. We just don't know how much he will screw things up yet.

It's yet to be seen but I don't see how he will not. Sure he has a team of people to give him advice, but it's clear that sooner or later he is going to fuck up badly, he is too impulsive, he didn't even close his personal twitter account as he should have, so you can expect more twitter antics on his original account that will cause market swings.

[Ibian]

The economy is already screwed up beyond repair. Trump can't fix that, there is not enough money in the world to fix it. All that can be done is mitigate the damage. Which is what he is doing. In a global financial collapse it will be the countries that actually produce something that will do best, hence his focus on keeping jobs and production in the states while limiting import.

It goes counter to the past several decades of politics, which is why it is seen as wrong by the common pleb and evil by the few people who profit under the current system, but it is the only correct move.

[Kprawn]

Well manipulating the situation to depreciate the dollar angered a lot of countries already.... Kennedy was also controversial and we all know what

happened to him. I think a lot of people will realize what he is doing and then protect their wealth by investing in Bitcoin. This happened in other

countries, where the government messed up and their local currency dropped in value. { Perfect example : Venezuela's currency, the bolivar }

[ImHash]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

[bitbunnny]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

[maku]

Trump is a successful entrepreneur, billionaire and business man. I think he understands markets more than any professional politician from Washington,
certainly better than Hillary, who sell off herself to banking industry/Wall Street for their money and support.
Liberal media is presenting him as unstable individual who will create chaos, but don't you think we are already on the way to perdition?

[Ibian]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

You are confusing Trump with Hillary "why am i not 50 points ahead?!" Clinton.

[Riddikulo]

I can´t see this happening.

[aesma]

The economy is already screwed up beyond repair. Trump can't fix that, there is not enough money in the world to fix it. All that can be done is mitigate the damage. Which is what he is doing. In a global financial collapse it will be the countries that actually produce something that will do best, hence his focus on keeping jobs and production in the states while limiting import.

It goes counter to the past several decades of politics, which is why it is seen as wrong by the common pleb and evil by the few people who profit under the current system, but it is the only correct move.

If you make stuff that nobody can buy, I don't see how you're going to fare better. The US fared the last recession it caused better that many countries. Not by building stuff but by printing money. Trump will print like crazy, in my opinion.

Good for BTC.

[Ibian]

The economy is already screwed up beyond repair. Trump can't fix that, there is not enough money in the world to fix it. All that can be done is mitigate the damage. Which is what he is doing. In a global financial collapse it will be the countries that actually produce something that will do best, hence his focus on keeping jobs and production in the states while limiting import.

It goes counter to the past several decades of politics, which is why it is seen as wrong by the common pleb and evil by the few people who profit under the current system, but it is the only correct move.

If you make stuff that nobody can buy, I don't see how you're going to fare better. The US fared the last recession it caused better that many countries. Not by building stuff but by printing money. Trump will print like crazy, in my opinion.

Good for BTC.

Supply and demand. The price will be whatever the market can bear.

Printing just delays future problems, and make them bigger. Trump knows this. The old establishment was full of people who lived in the moment, caring nothing for what lies past their term. Trump, and his picks, think ahead.

[Huge Black Woman]

The economy is already screwed up beyond repair.

Whatchu mean by dat?  Y'all see how strung up the stock market be?  It's higher then Rodney King when he drowned inna pool.  Thet states ta me verry clearly thet we ain't doin' so bad.  My folks an' the rest o' my people gots jobs, an' it weren't like thet jist 6 years ago.  We was pimp-rollin' onna corner slangin' rock, an' dontchu think I'mma jokin' wit dat eitha.

Wit Trump president, we may'swell follow bitcoin ta Jupiter.  Be a betta planet then the one who got his stupid monkey ass fo' a leader.

[Ibian]

The economy is already screwed up beyond repair.

Whatchu mean by dat?  Y'all see how strung up the stock market be?  It's higher then Rodney King when he drowned inna pool.  Thet states ta me verry clearly thet we ain't doin' so bad.  My folks an' the rest o' my people gots jobs, an' it weren't like thet jist 6 years ago.  We was pimp-rollin' onna corner slangin' rock, an' dontchu think I'mma jokin' wit dat eitha.

Wit Trump president, we may'swell follow bitcoin ta Jupiter.  Be a betta planet then the one who got his stupid monkey ass fo' a leader.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Unfunded liabilities are ten times higher. Can't even pay the interest on loans at this point, so the debt will just keep growing endlessly.

This can only end in three possible ways: Hyperinflation, default, or a war so bad that little things like numbers become meaningless.

[r0ach]

Original poster hates Trump and Putin.  Odds of being a marxist jew = 4000%.

[morantis]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

jupiter's orbit is maintained at about 70 kilometers below the base orbital plane of the earth, so you are predicting that the price of bitcoin will drop.  how nice when people talk in stupid phrases and such, i love "to the moon" because for their planetary locations, most people would be angling slightly downward to travel "to the moon".  i get the honeymooners being so stupid, but i would expect more out of year 2016 people.  until its return Haley's comet is at an upward angle from both hemisphere's.

[maker88]

Trump is a successful entrepreneur, billionaire and business man. I think he understands markets more than any professional politician from Washington,
certainly better than Hillary, who sell off herself to banking industry/Wall Street for their money and support.
Liberal media is presenting him as unstable individual who will create chaos, but don't you think we are already on the way to perdition?

uhhhh are you joking? you think trump didnt sell himself to wall street? one of his first acts as president was to make it so that investment firms that handled retirement funds no longer have to act in the best interests of their clients. he (rightly so) criticized clinton just for giving a speech at goldman sachs. he appointed people from goldman sachs to his cabinet, in positions where they will be in charge of regulating the financial industry. how the fuck is that not being owned by wallstreet?

[coinplus]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...

[Febo]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

If he will screw up badly something he will be impeached, and that will be it, will be nothing really bad fro USA economy, but just personally to him and his party.
If he will not screw anything but do plan he presented before elections, then USA might gets into troubles. But such things dont show that fast. Might take few years.

[Windpower]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

I definitely would agree with you that Trump is unfit as a politician, and even worse as the president. However, he is a business man, which means that he knows what he is doing when it comes to the market. As much as I hate the guy, I have to admit that he has made a shit ton of money and it doesn't just grow off trees. It will be pretty hard to crash the market if he doesn't mess with it, and I doubt that he will.

Although, if he does manage to screw up and crash the market, it will be great for us Bitcoin investors. Not saying that I want it to. *cough* *cough*

[jaberwock]

If the economy is really screwed people will be more worried about surviving and being safe, and probably won't spare much to invest in brand new technologies like Bitcoin.

Also there is no reason to believe US economy will be hurt(maybe other countries' economy will), they even survived 8 years of Obama

[Sundark]

If the economy is really screwed people will be more worried about surviving and being safe, and probably won't spare much to invest in brand new technologies like Bitcoin.

Also there is no reason to believe US economy will be hurt(maybe other countries' economy will), they even survived 8 years of Obama

US economy can't be hurt anymore. Obama done pretty good job at destroying it.
Trump will try to recover it at all cost. People are being manipulated by media controlled by democrats.
So far we can see that only haters here are Trump's adversaries and people brainwashed with idea of political correctness used as prime commandment.

[RoommateAgreement]

this is one of those times that i am really glad that i am not an American. with all their debts and all the economical problems. and many are forecasting a economical crash for US.
the only thing that makes me happy are my investments, i have already bought enough gold and lots of bitcoin to be set for the possibility of going to the moon.

[Ibian]

this is one of those times that i am really glad that i am not an American. with all their debts and all the economical problems. and many are forecasting a economical crash for US.
the only thing that makes me happy are my investments, i have already bought enough gold and lots of bitcoin to be set for the possibility of going to the moon.

The entire western economy is going to crash. It's already begun, most people just don't see it yet.

[Torque]

this is one of those times that i am really glad that i am not an American. with all their debts and all the economical problems. and many are forecasting a economical crash for US.
the only thing that makes me happy are my investments, i have already bought enough gold and lots of bitcoin to be set for the possibility of going to the moon.

The entire western economy is going to crash. It's already begun, most people just don't see it yet.

Yep, with the DOW breaking 20K and the S&P 500 hitting ATH, Joe blue collars everywhere will believe that Trump is going to save them all and readjust all their life savings back into the over-inflated stock market.  At exactly the wrong time.

After the Fed starts to up rates, look for the crash near the end of the year... Joe Retail is always the one left holding the bag.

[manselr]

this is one of those times that i am really glad that i am not an American. with all their debts and all the economical problems. and many are forecasting a economical crash for US.
the only thing that makes me happy are my investments, i have already bought enough gold and lots of bitcoin to be set for the possibility of going to the moon.

The entire western economy is going to crash. It's already begun, most people just don't see it yet.

Yep, with the DOW breaking 20K and the S&P 500 hitting ATH, Joe blue collars everywhere will believe that Trump is going to save them all and readjust all their life savings back into the over-inflated stock market.  At exactly the wrong time.

After the Fed starts to up rates, look for the crash near the end of the year... Joe Retail is always the one left holding the bag.

Trump voters are so dumb that they think there is no bubble, and S&P will keep growing as long as Trump is in office because he is a genius businessman. This is like 2008 all over again... we are at the peak and people are still delusional enough thinking there will be no backlash. This is going to be a shitshow for the US and then world and bitcoin holders will be making massive gains. Gold holders too, but not as much.

[BitcoinPC]

If the economy is really screwed people will be more worried about surviving and being safe, and probably won't spare much to invest in brand new technologies like Bitcoin.

Also there is no reason to believe US economy will be hurt(maybe other countries' economy will), they even survived 8 years of Obama

Obama was more of a loved president for everyone. Trump on the other hand has lots of opposition and will not enjoy same favor. Being said that if US economy begins to fall, people will grab bitcoins as it is happening with china and india. This will increase more demand of bitcoins and more the price will be.

[rjclarke2000]

If the economy is really screwed people will be more worried about surviving and being safe, and probably won't spare much to invest in brand new technologies like Bitcoin.

Also there is no reason to believe US economy will be hurt(maybe other countries' economy will), they even survived 8 years of Obama

Obama was more of a loved president for everyone. Trump on the other hand has lots of opposition and will not enjoy same favor. Being said that if US economy begins to fall, people will grab bitcoins as it is happening with china and india. This will increase more demand of bitcoins and more the price will be.

Has trump been put in place on purpose so when the crash happens he gets the blame?

[Taki]

I see so many badly saying about Trump that I can believe there where people in the US who voted for him.
I really haven't any big opinion about what kind of effect can make trump on bitcoin and dollar. I just noticed that bitcoin even didn't move from the time of his inauguration, but some people here predicted some real rise. So in this point I am on the position - the time will show.

[Torque]

If the economy is really screwed people will be more worried about surviving and being safe, and probably won't spare much to invest in brand new technologies like Bitcoin.

Also there is no reason to believe US economy will be hurt(maybe other countries' economy will), they even survived 8 years of Obama

Obama was more of a loved president for everyone. Trump on the other hand has lots of opposition and will not enjoy same favor. Being said that if US economy begins to fall, people will grab bitcoins as it is happening with china and india. This will increase more demand of bitcoins and more the price will be.

Has trump been put in place on purpose so when the crash happens he gets the blame?

Actually, my (conspiracy) theory is that he has been put into power so that when the crash happens, Trump & Co. will be able to say that he is the "best" man to renegotiate defaulting on national debts, bank debts, corp. debts, etc. due to his business background.  The Republican camp will blame the crash on 8 years of Obama, and they will blame the Fed and Wallstreet.

Either way though, they will still socialize losses to the masses one way or the other.  Probably through haircuts, asset seizures and sales to foreign interests, etc. And then Trump will gaslight all Americans into believing it is for the "greater good", "rebuilding a better America", pro-American patriotism, "God Bless America" and all that crap.  

[hawkins]

LOL. not to the moon, but to Jupiter, but since the price is currently down, I'm sure it takes a long time to be bitcoin, and gold to have a price that is so expected. if indeed trump really affect bitcoin, I guess that would begin in February. Well, let's hope so

[abstract1]

Don't pollute the speculation section with partisan delusional butt hurt crap that is as substantive as any teenager's political analysis, and as reality based as any drug addict's ravings. Thanks.

[Ibian]

this is one of those times that i am really glad that i am not an American. with all their debts and all the economical problems. and many are forecasting a economical crash for US.
the only thing that makes me happy are my investments, i have already bought enough gold and lots of bitcoin to be set for the possibility of going to the moon.

The entire western economy is going to crash. It's already begun, most people just don't see it yet.

Yep, with the DOW breaking 20K and the S&P 500 hitting ATH, Joe blue collars everywhere will believe that Trump is going to save them all and readjust all their life savings back into the over-inflated stock market.  At exactly the wrong time.

After the Fed starts to up rates, look for the crash near the end of the year... Joe Retail is always the one left holding the bag.

Trump voters are so dumb that they think there is no bubble, and S&P will keep growing as long as Trump is in office because he is a genius businessman. This is like 2008 all over again... we are at the peak and people are still delusional enough thinking there will be no backlash. This is going to be a shitshow for the US and then world and bitcoin holders will be making massive gains. Gold holders too, but not as much.

Trump is all about the wall, and that's why we voted for him. Everything else is commentary.

[Ibian]

Don't pollute the speculation section with partisan delusional butt hurt crap that is as substantive as any teenager's political analysis, and as reality based as any drug addict's ravings. Thanks.

The only people who tell the truth are drunks and children.

[cellard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DgPO9-wig

This is a good video on the Keiser Report, Max Keiser interviews Brock Pierce of Blockchain Capital about crypto in the age of Trump. They are really bullish and agree with the analisis of Trump being a very unpredictable figure. We are ahead of 4 or up to 8 years of total uncertainty for the markets, which means massive gains could be made by holding bitcoin.

[Wolf Rainer]

If remittances get shut down, the use of Bitcoin will explode, effectively bypassing the ban. This might result Trump banning bitcoin every couple of weeks.

[Kakmakr]

He might be a controversial character, but when I look at www.usdebtclock.org/ I think that is exactly what the USA needs at this stage. Obama was too passive and he also spend too much money. Trump will not reverse this debt, but he might slow it down a little bit with some aggressive market decisions.

His decisions will hasten the collapse of other economies that rely strongly on the US imports and relations and these countries will fold. We will then see more people running towards Bitcoin to protect their wealth from a failing global economy.

[cellard]

He might be a controversial character, but when I look at www.usdebtclock.org/ I think that is exactly what the USA needs at this stage. Obama was too passive and he also spend too much money. Trump will not reverse this debt, but he might slow it down a little bit with some aggressive market decisions.

His decisions will hasten the collapse of other economies that rely strongly on the US imports and relations and these countries will fold. We will then see more people running towards Bitcoin to protect their wealth from a failing global economy.

The US may have a short lived prosperity period, but I think it's not sustainable long term. It's just not possible to compete against the chinese prices because their labour is so cheap, same goes for all illegal mexicans doing tons of work for cheaper.

If you get rid of those that's good because it creates new jobs for americans but americans aren't going to be happy working at mexican tier wages, so this means a lot of expenses will go to pay the american workers in order to manufacture in america and not export as much.

Trump will have to play a game of threatening others to cut exports, and china can't manufacture a lot of quality stuff made in US.

[Redrose]

Being president of the United States is not being a monarch. He has ministers, and very good ones, at least in the domain of finance. They all re billionnaire, so they know very well the economy they are ruling. Do not worry : even if he was not that well helped, he could not do any mistake, as at the inverse of how the communist countries used to rule their economy, companies are not owned by the state, and he can not hurt them, so do not worry (or in your case that would be a good thing for you) !

[nizamcc]

Trump himself is all about Gold, his home, his watch, everything. He loves Gold too much that he will surely do something for commodities after taking powers of the world's most powerful nation. And yeah, he is also in favor of digitization as well as Bitcoins, so there will be events that we will witness in the future which will surprise us all of a sudden when unexpected price hikes will be seen.

[cellard]

Being president of the United States is not being a monarch. He has ministers, and very good ones, at least in the domain of finance. They all re billionnaire, so they know very well the economy they are ruling. Do not worry : even if he was not that well helped, he could not do any mistake, as at the inverse of how the communist countries used to rule their economy, companies are not owned by the state, and he can not hurt them, so do not worry (or in your case that would be a good thing for you) !

No amount of ministers and experts are going to save the economy for the big up and coming correction, it's time to face the facts: the economy is in a big bubble, debt is at all time highs. Trump either accepts it and flushes everything to start from scratch (unlikely since no politician wants to do that) or he keeps printing more money in order to keep delaying the unavoidable.

[bit1]

Is better separate things and avoid confusion, The president-elect referred to above, and which has given much of which to speak particularly by its temperament and decisions that seemed sometimes hasty, is only the president of a country of which there are many on the earth, if he wants to make changes in his country He can do it since the majority voted for him, just as if he believes that breaking international treaties is the best thing for his country, that will be his responsibility, and what other countries must do is to care about their own countries and citizens, I believe that most countries should always long for peace and respect and the fact that in a country there is a change of government should not alter the order of the things, the economy is not pulled down by a single person, so we have to take things as calmly as possible and demonstrate why we live in this era of great changes.

[n691309]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

[Taki]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

That's right. I think we will remain soon how better we lived when Obama was the president  I am Russian and our country kinda support Trump, they didn't said anything bad on the news about him yet, but who knows how this support will turn on to us in the nearly future?

[jtipt]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Jupitar is a little overstatement, but yes if and when Trump makes the markets crash bitcoin price will rise if the crash not too much then BTC price hike will not be a lot but if he makes the market crash hard then there is no stopping the bitcoin price from skyrocketing 

[JohnUser]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

That's right. I think we will remain soon how better we lived when Obama was the president  I am Russian and our country kinda support Trump, they didn't said anything bad on the news about him yet, but who knows how this support will turn on to us in the nearly future?

Sure, Trump is a really smart president ... http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/27/paul-krugman-explains-colossally-stupid-trumps-mexico-tariff.html

[Rahar02]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...

Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

[lionheart78]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...

Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

I wonder what are the solution of this haters.  And I wonder if they are even fit to hold a position as an economist of the country.  All I can read is ranting and whining of the untested President, Trump is just starting, so I guess save your whining later    All bash and hates are worthless if they cannot propose much better plan to Trumps roadmaps.  We can compare them to Trolls and Fudsters. 

[cellard]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...

Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

I wonder what are the solution of this haters.  And I wonder if they are even fit to hold a position as an economist of the country.  All I can read is ranting and whining of the untested President, Trump is just starting, so I guess save your whining later    All bash and hates are worthless if they cannot propose much better plan to Trumps roadmaps.  We can compare them to Trolls and Fudsters. 

What you don't get is not Trump or anybody else can save US from the collapse (which will have inevitable global consequences).

He has 2 options:

1) Continue the QE policies and keep delaying the inevitable
2) Accept the system is unsustainable and let it correct. Again, as previously said, no politician wants to do that because it's a very unpopular measure. Most people are stupid and wouldn't understand that was the right thing to do.

[Vaskiy]

I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.

The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...

Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

I wonder what are the solution of this haters.  And I wonder if they are even fit to hold a position as an economist of the country.  All I can read is ranting and whining of the untested President, Trump is just starting, so I guess save your whining later    All bash and hates are worthless if they cannot propose much better plan to Trumps roadmaps.  We can compare them to Trolls and Fudsters. 

What you don't get is not Trump or anybody else can save US from the collapse (which will have inevitable global consequences).

He has 2 options:

1) Continue the QE policies and keep delaying the inevitable
2) Accept the system is unsustainable and let it correct. Again, as previously said, no politician wants to do that because it's a very unpopular measure. Most people are stupid and wouldn't understand that was the right thing to do.

Can expect a big change in USA. Trump in a short makes the country much stronger in terms of economy, force and other attributes. But several protest gets initiated and importantly several countries will be depressed by him.

[SHAWN-MIDWAYS]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Jupitar is a little overstatement, but yes if and when Trump makes the markets crash bitcoin price will rise if the crash not too much then BTC price hike will not be a lot but if he makes the market crash hard then there is no stopping the bitcoin price from skyrocketing 

i just wonder how he became a successful businessman because his decisions like the latest  Muslim ban can really crush all international business relations including demand for bitcoin as other countries will follow suit and put a ban on their services for us citizens...not even gold will sky rocket as speculated .

[bohr]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

I don’t think Trump can screw the economy because the economy is already beyond repair, however wall street seems to like him so I think it is the opposite I think there is the chance he slows down the spiral we were in, but eventually things will go back to where they were.

[Yakamoto]

Being president of the United States is not being a monarch. He has ministers, and very good ones, at least in the domain of finance. They all re billionnaire, so they know very well the economy they are ruling. Do not worry : even if he was not that well helped, he could not do any mistake, as at the inverse of how the communist countries used to rule their economy, companies are not owned by the state, and he can not hurt them, so do not worry (or in your case that would be a good thing for you) !

No amount of ministers and experts are going to save the economy for the big up and coming correction, it's time to face the facts: the economy is in a big bubble, debt is at all time highs. Trump either accepts it and flushes everything to start from scratch (unlikely since no politician wants to do that) or he keeps printing more money in order to keep delaying the unavoidable.

By the looks of it, when you consider the insane amount of debt accumulated by everyone and the inevitability of a default at this point in time, there is definitely a money-making opportunity.

The issue then becomes how it's going to work.

Trump has expressed interest in developing a new form of banknote, and so something like that would wipe the slate clean.

[angaper]

It is very interesting to read the multiple points of view regarding the possible effects of the Trump government in relation to bitcoin, but it seems we have not yet realized the null relationship between the ordinary world economy and the bitcoin economy, which has its own dynamic and follows its own fundamentals.

The last two events that shook the world's finances and and made a big impact on the markets, as were the Brexit and and the announcement of Trump's victory went completely unnoticed for bitcoin, and I don't see why it should be different now.

[LLec]

This is actually the first thread I have seen so far putting Trump in the center of killing bitcoin off because he has more hold reserves now being president then he does in bitcoin. I doubt he has anything to do with bitcoin and probably doesn't know what bitcoin is.
I have a feeling if someone told him about bitcoin he would wave it off as just play money on the internet used as tokens for playing pokemon or some other game for children.

[Febo]

Original poster hates Trump and Putin.  Odds of being a marxist jew = 4000%.

But most recent Trumps actions are against open market so sort of pro Marxistic. Why would then someone who thinks this actions are bad for economy, be considered as a marxist?  

[Idrisu]

I can´t see this happening.

Though I am a fan of Donald Trump I think his policies so far may affect investment in stocks and dollar holding. If stock market clash due to international community withdrawing they investment from usd economy then expect bitcoin to move up exponentially. Many investors will have no option than to keep they investment in a decentralized assets.

[Willeampere]

I can´t see this happening.

Though I am a fan of Donald Trump I think his policies so far may affect investment in stocks and dollar holding. If stock market clash due to international community withdrawing they investment from usd economy then expect bitcoin to move up exponentially. Many investors will have no option than to keep they investment in a decentralized assets.

Trump means inconsistency. The inconsistency means that the dollar is weakening and of course Bitcoin is getting stronger. Trump signing is being put under Bitcoin attacks this year ...

[BillyBobZorton]

Original poster hates Trump and Putin.  Odds of being a marxist jew = 4000%.

No, criticizing Trump and Putin does not automatically make you a "marxist jew" you blockhead. It's sad to see how people put other people in categories when they attack their cult, because that's how they act, as brainwashed cultists.

Sorry to break your bubble, but even if Trump has good intentions, he can't save the economy from what's coming, no one can. Someone has to take the responsibility of taking the crash and cleaning up the mess, I doubt Trump (or any other politician) will do that task, which means the inevitable collapse will keep getting as postponed as possible so it doesn't happen within the term of the current president (whoever and whenever that happens).

[Pierre 2]

I agree about all these Trump fuzz.
He was meant to be consistent and honest but looks like he is inconsistent, he will make btc go rise. Thank you USA.

[Pab]

Yes you are right BillyBobZorton.In just seven days Trump caused very serious problems for USA economy and he creating chaos on markets.If we will add potencial trade war beween China and USA than God save America You can see stock reaction on his travel ban for islamic people https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/jan/30/stock-markets-us-dollar-trump-travel-ban-german-inflation-business-live
It could be not so funny in Europe,rising inflation there is 4 years high inflation in Germany,brexit may cause real crash if will be hard Brexit,question is what will happen with money stored and managed in London Citi
Rising debt problem is coming back one time again

[mkmdoc]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

How it can helps the bitcoin if he keep the dollar on the top. Right now trump decision don't have any impact on bitcoin, that's why bitcoin has become the global currency it should not effect it's price by US, China etc. That's why bitcoin become more popular in the form of no one is controlling bitcoin.

[Amph]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

How it can helps the bitcoin if he keep the dollar on the top. Right now trump decision don't have any impact on bitcoin, that's why bitcoin has become the global currency it should not effect it's price by US, China etc. That's why bitcoin become more popular in the form of no one is controlling bitcoin.

he might help a system that is based on bitcoin, with blockchain and everything thus helping the adoption of bitcoin indirectly, if he ever decide that the current dollar system must be changed, not so easy as it seems

also bitcoin is not competing with the dollar, having the dollar at the top mean nothing for bitcoin, bitcoin is not even a fraction of the dollar marketcap

[shapeshiftscam]

Trump is naive but good for our bitcoin value, I am very happy, and I hope he can extend the president. Let us see what miracles will happen in next 4 years, or 8 years. People who hate him are losers, I like him very much, he is so rich if we like him, we can make money like him. Learn from a billionaire OK?

No worry about the economy, if it is worse than Obama's years, we bitcoiners will make tons of money, we can be very happy.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Well maybe instead of trump crashing our markets inclusive of bitcoin I think this can work against his reforms as people would want to invest in different projects using  bitcoins as barriers are put in place.

[CyberCombat]

With a promise of Trump, he can see with panic sales. I do not think that the person we are talking about here is a president of the United States, but he does not act like president very much because he is a business man.

[noormcs5]

Well maybe instead of trump crashing our markets inclusive of bitcoin I think this can work against his reforms as people would want to invest in different projects using  bitcoins as barriers are put in place.

Crashing of USD market by trump will only make Bitcoin grow more. The good thing is that Trump can manipulate worlds economy, USD currency and all other things because he is super power but he cant control bitcoins. Thats why bitcoin was made in the way that even USA president has no control over it. The crash in any market will result in boost of bitcoins.

[DeathAngel]

I don't think Trump will screw up the economy at all tbh, he'll have experts advising him just like any other president. If anything as a successful businessman he's better suited for the role than somebody like Obama.

Regardless though I don't give a crap about the US economy & just hope that whatever happens bitcoin goes to the moon.

[Grdas130979]

For the sort period i think Trump will help USA economy, but it cant last for long, we cannot go back to closed frontiers and economies, eventually there will be a major crisis, maybe its just meant to be a war or something like it every 30-40 years, so in instability always gold goes up, but now there is something even better, BITCOIN !

[Przemax]

In my opinion the crash in the value of dolar wont mean the huge increase in the value of bitcoin at first. People will try to flee to some "safer" bets only after there wont be any "safe" bets and there wont be the bitcoin price will go skyhigh.

[e-coinomist]

Yes you are right BillyBobZorton.In just seven days Trump caused very serious problems for USA economy and he creating chaos on markets.If we will add potencial trade war beween China and USA than God save America You can see stock reaction on his travel ban for islamic people https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/jan/30/stock-markets-us-dollar-trump-travel-ban-german-inflation-business-live
It could be not so funny in Europe,rising inflation there is 4 years high inflation in Germany,brexit may cause real crash if will be hard Brexit,question is what will happen with money stored and managed in London Citi
Rising debt problem is coming back one time again

Silicon Valley could get in trouble because of those recent political decisions. They are dependant upon human resource, and only the brightest minds. Which tend to happen to be of all existing religious confessions. You cannot eject a developer from your team just because she is buddhist and wears pants, not skirts.

[doaremon]

I don't know if trump have a plan to crash the market.Being one of the most powerful man on earth he can easily do that if he wants. But I don't think he'll gonna do that because he has many other sections to put an attention. And crashing market will create more and more problems which he already has. Yes if the market crashes anyhow gold and bitcoin price will probably get a nitro boost up. Good day

[Electra01]

It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

If he does crash the economy, I agree that a lot of money will shift into commodities. I would add silver, platinum and other altcoins alongside Bitcoin and gold.

[Barbut]

I dont think that Trump have so much power in his hands, he is just a president he is not a God Almighty. This global economy is doomed, I agree with that, but it's like that from long time ago.
I also believe that bitcoin is alternative, and people who are smart enough they will have a part of wealth in bitcoins, in case this happens what OP is talking about.

[zbeky]

Trump is not God Almighty but is really unpredictable and holds big power in his hands (just look at past weeks). He can't destroy the global market single handedly but sure he can destabilize it