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January 26, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
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Being president of the United States is not being a monarch. He has ministers, and very good ones, at least in the domain of finance. They all re billionnaire, so they know very well the economy they are ruling. Do not worry : even if he was not that well helped, he could not do any mistake, as at the inverse of how the communist countries used to rule their economy, companies are not owned by the state, and he can not hurt them, so do not worry (or in your case that would be a good thing for you) !

No amount of ministers and experts are going to save the economy for the big up and coming correction, it's time to face the facts: the economy is in a big bubble, debt is at all time highs. Trump either accepts it and flushes everything to start from scratch (unlikely since no politician wants to do that) or he keeps printing more money in order to keep delaying the unavoidable.

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January 26, 2017, 11:16:42 PM
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Is better separate things and avoid confusion, The president-elect referred to above, and which has given much of which to speak particularly by its temperament and decisions that seemed sometimes hasty, is only the president of a country of which there are many on the earth, if he wants to make changes in his country He can do it since the majority voted for him, just as if he believes that breaking international treaties is the best thing for his country, that will be his responsibility, and what other countries must do is to care about their own countries and citizens, I believe that most countries should always long for peace and respect and the fact that in a country there is a change of government should not alter the order of the things, the economy is not pulled down by a single person, so we have to take things as calmly as possible and demonstrate why we live in this era of great changes.

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January 26, 2017, 11:40:54 PM
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It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

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January 28, 2017, 11:57:36 AM
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It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

That's right. I think we will remain soon how better we lived when Obama was the president  Grin I am Russian and our country kinda support Trump, they didn't said anything bad on the news about him yet, but who knows how this support will turn on to us in the nearly future?

   
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January 28, 2017, 01:30:58 PM
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It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.
Jupitar is a little overstatement, but yes if and when Trump makes the markets crash bitcoin price will rise if the crash not too much then BTC price hike will not be a lot but if he makes the market crash hard then there is no stopping the bitcoin price from skyrocketing 

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January 28, 2017, 02:40:44 PM
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It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.

Trump is very courageous and we should expect everything from him, I don't know what can happen in the next years but from his promises in election I can say that he will do everything to keep the dollar on top and the united states economy the richest and the best one in the world so it may be good and better for the bitcoin and the bitcoin holders.

That's right. I think we will remain soon how better we lived when Obama was the president  Grin I am Russian and our country kinda support Trump, they didn't said anything bad on the news about him yet, but who knows how this support will turn on to us in the nearly future?

Sure, Trump is a really smart president ... http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/27/paul-krugman-explains-colossally-stupid-trumps-mexico-tariff.html



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January 28, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
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I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions Smiley If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.
The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...
Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

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January 29, 2017, 04:57:53 AM
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I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions Smiley If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.
The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...
Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

I wonder what are the solution of this haters.  And I wonder if they are even fit to hold a position as an economist of the country.  All I can read is ranting and whining of the untested President, Trump is just starting, so I guess save your whining later  Grin  All bash and hates are worthless if they cannot propose much better plan to Trumps roadmaps.  We can compare them to Trolls and Fudsters. 

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January 29, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
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I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions Smiley If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.
The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...
Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

I wonder what are the solution of this haters.  And I wonder if they are even fit to hold a position as an economist of the country.  All I can read is ranting and whining of the untested President, Trump is just starting, so I guess save your whining later  Grin  All bash and hates are worthless if they cannot propose much better plan to Trumps roadmaps.  We can compare them to Trolls and Fudsters. 

What you don't get is not Trump or anybody else can save US from the collapse (which will have inevitable global consequences).

He has 2 options:

1) Continue the QE policies and keep delaying the inevitable
2) Accept the system is unsustainable and let it correct. Again, as previously said, no politician wants to do that because it's a very unpopular measure. Most people are stupid and wouldn't understand that was the right thing to do.

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January 29, 2017, 04:37:29 PM
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I guess he doesn't know yet that what could a president's words do, a president especially US's could easily either cause chaos or stability just by saying 2 sentences, moreover I doubt trump being a stupid and ignore the consequences of his words and not actions Smiley If he boosts the gold market bitcoin's will accelerate it's growth for sure, cause and effect.

It's more likely that Trump will cause chaos, not stability. He is so full of himself, thinking that he can do anything he wants without consequences but that could end up very badly not just for the USA but in the world too. And I'm not sure that his policy and behaviour could bring anything good to Bitcoin.
The over smart politicians are known for collapsing their own economy, with Trump I am also expecting lot of messy due to his dictator like approach.
Nasscom already started predicting long term and short impact of Trump's recent visa and US job policies, all are against dollars growth in short term, that must be a good news for alternate investments like bitcoins...
Too many negative tagged to trump and his political and economic affairs, and there are too many news/predictions against him and we expected that he will do the mistakes. I'm not so sure if that works for bitcoin rises as too early to say his economics policy will be bad for US which we know all of the effort to keep US dollars and economics growing. Whether he will going to make an economic crash or rise should be affected bitcoin indirectly, just wait and watchful the market trading.

I wonder what are the solution of this haters.  And I wonder if they are even fit to hold a position as an economist of the country.  All I can read is ranting and whining of the untested President, Trump is just starting, so I guess save your whining later  Grin  All bash and hates are worthless if they cannot propose much better plan to Trumps roadmaps.  We can compare them to Trolls and Fudsters. 

What you don't get is not Trump or anybody else can save US from the collapse (which will have inevitable global consequences).

He has 2 options:

1) Continue the QE policies and keep delaying the inevitable
2) Accept the system is unsustainable and let it correct. Again, as previously said, no politician wants to do that because it's a very unpopular measure. Most people are stupid and wouldn't understand that was the right thing to do.
Can expect a big change in USA. Trump in a short makes the country much stronger in terms of economy, force and other attributes. But several protest gets initiated and importantly several countries will be depressed by him.

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January 29, 2017, 05:39:24 PM
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It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.
Jupitar is a little overstatement, but yes if and when Trump makes the markets crash bitcoin price will rise if the crash not too much then BTC price hike will not be a lot but if he makes the market crash hard then there is no stopping the bitcoin price from skyrocketing 
i just wonder how he became a successful businessman because his decisions like the latest  Muslim ban can really crush all international business relations including demand for bitcoin as other countries will follow suit and put a ban on their services for us citizens...not even gold will sky rocket as speculated .

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It's an excellent time be alive as a bitcoin holder. Trump is going to screw up badly eventually during the 4 yours, sooner or later he will show how unfit he is to be a politician, and certainly being at the top of the 1st world power. He thinks he can get away with certain things, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.

Markets will react and gold, and specially bitcoin, will go higher. Only complete braindead morons will still be hating on bitcoin once this happens, specially all those gold bugs that are too stupid to diversify and buy some BTCs.

BIG gains to be made during the next 4 years. It could be tomorrow or it could be in 3 years, since Trump is unpredictable, but Trump will make a lot of gold and BTC holders rich.
I don’t think Trump can screw the economy because the economy is already beyond repair, however wall street seems to like him so I think it is the opposite I think there is the chance he slows down the spiral we were in, but eventually things will go back to where they were.

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January 29, 2017, 06:47:35 PM
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Being president of the United States is not being a monarch. He has ministers, and very good ones, at least in the domain of finance. They all re billionnaire, so they know very well the economy they are ruling. Do not worry : even if he was not that well helped, he could not do any mistake, as at the inverse of how the communist countries used to rule their economy, companies are not owned by the state, and he can not hurt them, so do not worry (or in your case that would be a good thing for you) !

No amount of ministers and experts are going to save the economy for the big up and coming correction, it's time to face the facts: the economy is in a big bubble, debt is at all time highs. Trump either accepts it and flushes everything to start from scratch (unlikely since no politician wants to do that) or he keeps printing more money in order to keep delaying the unavoidable.
By the looks of it, when you consider the insane amount of debt accumulated by everyone and the inevitability of a default at this point in time, there is definitely a money-making opportunity.

The issue then becomes how it's going to work.

Trump has expressed interest in developing a new form of banknote, and so something like that would wipe the slate clean.














 

 

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It is very interesting to read the multiple points of view regarding the possible effects of the Trump government in relation to bitcoin, but it seems we have not yet realized the null relationship between the ordinary world economy and the bitcoin economy, which has its own dynamic and follows its own fundamentals.

The last two events that shook the world's finances and and made a big impact on the markets, as were the Brexit and and the announcement of Trump's victory went completely unnoticed for bitcoin, and I don't see why it should be different now.


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This is actually the first thread I have seen so far putting Trump in the center of killing bitcoin off because he has more hold reserves now being president then he does in bitcoin. I doubt he has anything to do with bitcoin and probably doesn't know what bitcoin is.
I have a feeling if someone told him about bitcoin he would wave it off as just play money on the internet used as tokens for playing pokemon or some other game for children. Lips sealed



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Trump's anti-counterfeiting law, the safe deficit of the dollar, the gold gram was $ 39, and the bitcoin price was positively affected.



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Original poster hates Trump and Putin.  Odds of being a marxist jew = 4000%.


But most recent Trumps actions are against open market so sort of pro Marxistic. Why would then someone who thinks this actions are bad for economy, be considered as a marxist?  

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I can´t see this happening.
Though I am a fan of Donald Trump I think his policies so far may affect investment in stocks and dollar holding. If stock market clash due to international community withdrawing they investment from usd economy then expect bitcoin to move up exponentially. Many investors will have no option than to keep they investment in a decentralized assets.

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I can´t see this happening.
Though I am a fan of Donald Trump I think his policies so far may affect investment in stocks and dollar holding. If stock market clash due to international community withdrawing they investment from usd economy then expect bitcoin to move up exponentially. Many investors will have no option than to keep they investment in a decentralized assets.

Trump means inconsistency. The inconsistency means that the dollar is weakening and of course Bitcoin is getting stronger. Trump signing is being put under Bitcoin attacks this year ...

   
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February 01, 2017, 04:21:05 PM
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Original poster hates Trump and Putin.  Odds of being a marxist jew = 4000%.


No, criticizing Trump and Putin does not automatically make you a "marxist jew" you blockhead. It's sad to see how people put other people in categories when they attack their cult, because that's how they act, as brainwashed cultists.

Sorry to break your bubble, but even if Trump has good intentions, he can't save the economy from what's coming, no one can. Someone has to take the responsibility of taking the crash and cleaning up the mess, I doubt Trump (or any other politician) will do that task, which means the inevitable collapse will keep getting as postponed as possible so it doesn't happen within the term of the current president (whoever and whenever that happens).


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