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September 19, 2018, 11:44:15 AM
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As it does not really fit into the 7nm thread here I make new topic.

Specs:
Avalon A921
20TH/s -5% ~+10%
1700Watt +0% ~+20%
0,085J/Gigahash
104 x A3206 7nm Asics
-5°C - 30°C

It can be assumed that they are planning to reach target specs discussed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4791241.0 with A941 Miner.

For now we have the A921 with ~85Watt/TH acc to spec. Market release of this device is end of September.

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September 19, 2018, 12:04:25 PM
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Becomes a hard item to purchase in the USA  add 27.6%  to price.

Do you know what they will charge for it?

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September 19, 2018, 12:31:12 PM
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Becomes a hard item to purchase in the USA  add 27.6%  to price.

Do you know what they will charge for it?

Don't think it will be a problem if you ship through europe or buy from us eg., this should avoid trump taxes I guess.

China pricing is around 950 USD. (not official)

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September 19, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
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Disappointing announcement. I don't get why price would be more than double the 841. Shouldn't be more than $700 based on existing pricing and 16% increase in efficiency. Majority of new gear that's been coming out is overpriced for existing market. Close to T2Turbo specs and cheaper at least.
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September 19, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
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Cool news.

I bet that some tinkering with voltage settings should get this A921 efficiency to 0.08J / Ghs and I guess that the A941 should be in the 0.06-0.07 area.

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September 19, 2018, 02:57:57 PM
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Wait for the 941...
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September 19, 2018, 03:16:24 PM
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Wow thats garbage, how do they expect to sell something that cant compete with everything else coming out? Especially after announcing 26-30TH at the same wattage less than 2 months ago.

Its also claiming 1700w + 20%? So expect 2000 watts I guess....

That puts efficiency near the 0.10 w/gh range....thats almost as bad as an S9

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September 19, 2018, 03:20:44 PM
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Don't think it will be a problem if you ship through europe or buy from us eg., this should avoid trump taxes I guess.

China pricing is around 950 USD. (not official)

I wouldn't count on that. When it gets shipped the Country where it was manufactured will matter more than where it is shipped from.



Nice to see some hard specs and release dates for their new line. I am more interested in seeing what the 941will do, and if it launches as soon as the 841 did after the 821

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September 19, 2018, 04:43:14 PM
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1900 x 1.276 = 2424.40 for 2 to the USA  not counting shipping  so 300 more after these new trump fuck you china taxes.

so 2725   get me 40 th at 3400 watts if it meets specs.

the A841 was good
the A851 was not so good.


or buy the m10 wait a month and pay about 1817 x 1.276 = 2318.49 plus shipping  so say 2450

get 34.5 th at 2340 watts   which I know is good caus I have the demo

so  maybe 5.5th more  at 1060 watts more and pay  385 more

speed of delivery may be a little faster then an m10  .

even at 4 cent power  it is a tough unit to buy.

I am going to sit  and not be buying much  gear until after NOV elections  these tariffs are  really tough on price.

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September 19, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
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yeah, I think too that its a little dissapointing but as usual the Ax41 will be the better machine and high running and probably life up to the advertised specs.

For the moment this device is at least better then Innosilicon. Comparing it with the M10 is another topic - but the issue with the M10 is still no Rohs, no CE and so I guess no FCC certs? At least thats what I last heard. Did anything change @Phil? This means that the M10 is too risky to import in the european market, if still valid.
Also who knows about quality of the M10 and support..

We bought a testing unit of A921 from china, should ship next week. Will update as soon as we have the machine.

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September 19, 2018, 06:50:02 PM
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yeah, I think too that its a little dissapointing but as usual the Ax41 will be the better machine and high running and probably life up to the advertised specs.

For the moment this device is at least better then Innosilicon. Comparing it with the M10 is another topic - but the issue with the M10 is still no Rohs, no CE and so I guess no FCC certs? At least thats what I last heard. Did anything change @Phil? This means that the M10 is too risky to import in the european market, if still valid.
Also who knows about quality of the M10 and support..

We bought a testing unit of A921 from china, should ship next week. Will update as soon as we have the machine.

Yeah  and you are paying  1800 x 1.17 = 2106 plus shipping say 2350 usd for it.

I got an early demo model so  you can't get a M10 for another 25-30 days maybe all paperwork  will be fixed.

as for the A921 vs the innosilicon

20 th and 1700 watts  for the a921

19.5 th and 1740 watts for the inosilicon on balanced

17.5 th and 1412 watts for the innosilicon on efficiency

price for a921 way lower then the  innosilicon.

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September 19, 2018, 10:32:27 PM
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Canaan pricing is pretty good, our listing even with the tariff included is reasonable.

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September 21, 2018, 03:02:23 AM
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$800 w/MOQ of 60 from Canaan. Ship date end of September.
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September 21, 2018, 04:49:26 AM
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This is a bummer..  27-30th is what we were expecting not 20th at same power usage.  Might as well get 841's for $4-500 at this price.  Esp. after the tariff we are also paying now on top of things.
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September 21, 2018, 08:42:47 AM
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yeah, pricing is actually cheaper as I posted before, after confirming final specs and pricing with canaan we also posted our A921 listing.
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September 21, 2018, 04:47:33 PM
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unless we don't win back at least the house in Nov 2108 it's only going to get worse unless you like trump then he can do no wrong, i personally hate the fucker,can't stand to see trump on tv ETC .. lets hope we get some kind of balance back in Nov 2018 and there might even be a senate win .
unless ofc you like trump then no more said because his followers are unbelievable, I have talked to a few of them is about all I'm going to say.

Im thinking we leave the politics out of the hardware section for now. The real question is how did Avalon miss their own announcements targeted specs by so much?
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September 21, 2018, 05:11:47 PM
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Im thinking we leave the politics out of the hardware section for now. The real question is how did Avalon miss their own announcements targeted specs by so much?

841 close to specs if room not hot
851 not close to specs

A921 way poorer then the whisper numbers

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September 21, 2018, 08:25:19 PM
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The real question is how did Avalon miss their own announcements targeted specs by so much?

They didn't. As I recall the initial A9 speeds they postulated were for the 941 version and not the 921.

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September 21, 2018, 11:29:53 PM
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canaan.io has the 921 list at 1800w as well.

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September 23, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
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The real question is how did Avalon miss their own announcements targeted specs by so much?

They didn't. As I recall the initial A9 speeds they postulated were for the 941 version and not the 921.

Yep, wait for the 941....
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