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Glad I've found this project now when it's merely above ICO price. I'm sure it goes x10 before 2018.
yeah maybe will happen on 2018 but now the price keep down, i hope will break 20k soon |
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June 09, 2017, 11:38:17 PM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
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June 09, 2017, 11:47:40 PM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price |
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June 10, 2017, 12:14:04 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. |
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June 10, 2017, 12:52:28 AM |
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Someone is having fun and hard manipulating the price with 30++ btc.
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June 10, 2017, 01:02:42 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. Yes if you are calculating with ETH price now. When the ICO ended, ETH only worth around 0.015 btc, so it's around 1200 btc + 1000 btc = 2200 btc. |
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June 10, 2017, 02:42:09 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. Yes if you are calculating with ETH price now. When the ICO ended, ETH only worth around 0.015 btc, so it's around 1200 btc + 1000 btc = 2200 btc. What's the point to measure in $ if you invested in BTC and ETH? If you hold ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd have a huge gain buy now. Which means you basically lost money in Trust if you sell lower. That's why I think it's only logical to measure by current price. Otherwise it's like you invest in ETH when it's 0.015 btc and next day ETH is 0.15 btc and the coin you invested x2 from ICO and you're like "OMG I've just made x2!!" lol. |
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June 10, 2017, 03:00:02 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... |
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June 10, 2017, 08:25:25 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. |
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June 10, 2017, 05:29:50 PM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. In BTC it is x1.38, meaning it rises almost as fast as BTC or ETH. In ICO, you have to calculate the USD value at the time. Who knows what will happen later, maybe BTC and ETH will drop significantly, maybe they will rise, no one knows, it is not the ICO's fault. |
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June 10, 2017, 07:15:01 PM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. lol whats the reason to measure in USD (or any fiat doesn't have to be USD)?... The fact that it took fiat to originally trade for these...even if you're mining the coins thats fiat going to power. People need to stop with the 'if you had held' argument because it's like schroedengers cat you cant know theres no real way to know unless you held the ETH/BTC...which you didn't. For all you know you could've accidentally lost all the ETH you were hodling if you hadn't invested in TRST....it's an alternate timeline, a theoretical universe for us, you can't say you lost money just because you invest with ETH at $50 and it hits $150... Another reason you measure in USD (or any fiat) is because most people now are in this for the future day where they TRADE BACK TO FIAT TO BUY SOMETHING ...until the day comes where it's commonplace to buy homes/vehicles with btc...EVERYWHERE...then people will be looking to turn huge gains into fiat at some point. Even for the die hard crypto'ers, you wouldn't make ANY gains in value if 'real' money investors hadn't been coming in more and more as the years go on. The thing that is gonna give retarded gains is going to be fractions of the global economy shifting into crypto...it's not more and more crypto-nerds just buying em up at higher and higher values. Outside money is coming in, and THEY will measure it in USD/fiat....and it's because of them that bitcoin has even gone up enough for it to be 3k/btc... |
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June 10, 2017, 11:26:19 PM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. lol whats the reason to measure in USD (or any fiat doesn't have to be USD)?... The fact that it took fiat to originally trade for these...even if you're mining the coins thats fiat going to power. People need to stop with the 'if you had held' argument because it's like schroedengers cat you cant know theres no real way to know unless you held the ETH/BTC...which you didn't. For all you know you could've accidentally lost all the ETH you were hodling if you hadn't invested in TRST....it's an alternate timeline, a theoretical universe for us, you can't say you lost money just because you invest with ETH at $50 and it hits $150... Another reason you measure in USD (or any fiat) is because most people now are in this for the future day where they TRADE BACK TO FIAT TO BUY SOMETHING ...until the day comes where it's commonplace to buy homes/vehicles with btc...EVERYWHERE...then people will be looking to turn huge gains into fiat at some point. Even for the die hard crypto'ers, you wouldn't make ANY gains in value if 'real' money investors hadn't been coming in more and more as the years go on. The thing that is gonna give retarded gains is going to be fractions of the global economy shifting into crypto...it's not more and more crypto-nerds just buying em up at higher and higher values. Outside money is coming in, and THEY will measure it in USD/fiat....and it's because of them that bitcoin has even gone up enough for it to be 3k/btc... Interesting and valid points. Just wanted to share my personal perspective and I believe it should correlate or even be identical to many seanoned crypto and bitcoin bugs.Althoug I in no way consider myself as such. So,I only look what is bitcoin price of any coin and any other talk is irrational and pointless.Alt Coins are being traded in pairs with bitcoin and that's what you see when look at the chart. Nobs buy and sell following fiat -smart ones bitcoin price. |
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June 11, 2017, 03:23:31 AM |
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Interesting and valid points.
Just wanted to share my personal perspective and I believe it should correlate or even be identical to many seanoned crypto and bitcoin bugs.Althoug I in no way consider myself as such.
So,I only look what is bitcoin price of any coin and any other talk is irrational and pointless.Alt Coins are being traded in pairs with bitcoin and that's what you see when look at the chart.
Nobs buy and sell following fiat -smart ones bitcoin price.
fair enough and to each his own agree to disagree. but theres a member invested in MGO like myself whom I really respect his choices and his analyses...and he measures in fiat xD and I think I'm big if I throw 30 BTC into a project, this guy put like 500 BTC worth into MGO...and his past choices got him to the point where he COULD put that much into one crowdfund, but just saying...he never measures in BTC price and no one could call him a noob seriously without laughing. The dude is on point both from a real world fundamental viewpoint AND understanding the cryptosphere. Again, to each his own I suppose but in my (merely a member!) experience since I got into ETH around 7 bucks is that measuring in fiat has done me quite fine! and apparently that method of logic is making other people MILLIONS daily so good on everyone who makes value measuring paired to BTC, good on everyone who uses fiat. Cheers! |
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June 11, 2017, 03:42:48 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. I used USD because I invested USD in this project. I bought BTC/ETH to invest in this project. I will take out USD when I need money or want to sell TRST, though I will trade it with BTC/ETH. |
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June 11, 2017, 07:43:41 AM |
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dont panic. next days there will update the website
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June 11, 2017, 11:50:39 AM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. lol whats the reason to measure in USD (or any fiat doesn't have to be USD)?... The fact that it took fiat to originally trade for these...even if you're mining the coins thats fiat going to power. People need to stop with the 'if you had held' argument because it's like schroedengers cat you cant know theres no real way to know unless you held the ETH/BTC...which you didn't. For all you know you could've accidentally lost all the ETH you were hodling if you hadn't invested in TRST....it's an alternate timeline, a theoretical universe for us, you can't say you lost money just because you invest with ETH at $50 and it hits $150... Another reason you measure in USD (or any fiat) is because most people now are in this for the future day where they TRADE BACK TO FIAT TO BUY SOMETHING ...until the day comes where it's commonplace to buy homes/vehicles with btc...EVERYWHERE...then people will be looking to turn huge gains into fiat at some point. Even for the die hard crypto'ers, you wouldn't make ANY gains in value if 'real' money investors hadn't been coming in more and more as the years go on. The thing that is gonna give retarded gains is going to be fractions of the global economy shifting into crypto...it's not more and more crypto-nerds just buying em up at higher and higher values. Outside money is coming in, and THEY will measure it in USD/fiat....and it's because of them that bitcoin has even gone up enough for it to be 3k/btc... Look, I invested 2 BTC in Decent six months ago. It was like $1200 back then. If I sell my coins for 2 BTC after the launch I get $5600 because of BTC growth. It looks like I get x5 from my investment but it's stupid. Why would I do that. It doesn't make any sense. I'll be waiting for x10 from my Decent investment, no matter what was going on with BTC price. You need to gain in terms of BTC, not USD if you want to make really good money. That's why I consider Trust slightly over ICO price. The team has 10000 BTC at the moment, so anybody who sell Trust at 0.00013-0.0002 is either stupid or doesn't want to be rich. |
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June 11, 2017, 12:24:22 PM
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Interesting and valid points.
Just wanted to share my personal perspective and I believe it should correlate or even be identical to many seanoned crypto and bitcoin bugs.Althoug I in no way consider myself as such.
So,I only look what is bitcoin price of any coin and any other talk is irrational and pointless.Alt Coins are being traded in pairs with bitcoin and that's what you see when look at the chart.
Nobs buy and sell following fiat -smart ones bitcoin price.
fair enough and to each his own agree to disagree. but theres a member invested in MGO like myself whom I really respect his choices and his analyses...and he measures in fiat xD and I think I'm big if I throw 30 BTC into a project, this guy put like 500 BTC worth into MGO...and his past choices got him to the point where he COULD put that much into one crowdfund, but just saying...he never measures in BTC price and no one could call him a noob seriously without laughing. The dude is on point both from a real world fundamental viewpoint AND understanding the cryptosphere. Again, to each his own I suppose but in my (merely a member!) experience since I got into ETH around 7 bucks is that measuring in fiat has done me quite fine! and apparently that method of logic is making other people MILLIONS daily so good on everyone who makes value measuring paired to BTC, good on everyone who uses fiat. Cheers! Thanks for your input! Perhaps the time is approaching when more and more investors will be thinking in terms of fiat as more and more new people coming into the space who are not attached to Bitcoin so emotionally as to fiat. Only hard-core bitcoiners who believe in long term Bitcoin price growth still will be measuring alts in BTC as the only reason they get into alts is to accumulate more Bitcoin. Over the time we should see less and less volatility in alts and less parabolic moves in alt/btc pairs, assuming Bitcoin will continue to grow in price .In other words-diminishing gains and non violent charts in terms of Bitcoin and growing volatility in terms of fiat.Every shitcoin will be capable of reaching $1 and projects with strong fundamentals as WeTrust $10(just arbitrary numbers to support the case ).But that doesn't mean biger gains rather inflation as average ICO fiat price will continue to go up regardless of number of ICO participants. Hope that makes sense-just trying to understand this matrix. Ps I stick to bitcoin though  |
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June 11, 2017, 12:57:56 PM |
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What was the ICO price for this?
3k - 3.5k sat, not sure what was the exact number but ICO price should be around that price. Now it is rising 5x from ICO price The team gathered 1000 BTC + 80000 ETH which is around 9000 BTC now. With current market cap of 12,399 BTC it's x1.38 from ICO price. I am already 11X in terms of USD. I don't know how your are calculating this 1.38X... What's the reason to measure in terms of USD? If you just stayed in ETH instead of investing in Trust you'd still get 11X. So Trust didn't give you any profit so far. Well 1.38 if you still hodl. lol whats the reason to measure in USD (or any fiat doesn't have to be USD)?... The fact that it took fiat to originally trade for these...even if you're mining the coins thats fiat going to power. People need to stop with the 'if you had held' argument because it's like schroedengers cat you cant know theres no real way to know unless you held the ETH/BTC...which you didn't. For all you know you could've accidentally lost all the ETH you were hodling if you hadn't invested in TRST....it's an alternate timeline, a theoretical universe for us, you can't say you lost money just because you invest with ETH at $50 and it hits $150... Another reason you measure in USD (or any fiat) is because most people now are in this for the future day where they TRADE BACK TO FIAT TO BUY SOMETHING ...until the day comes where it's commonplace to buy homes/vehicles with btc...EVERYWHERE...then people will be looking to turn huge gains into fiat at some point. Even for the die hard crypto'ers, you wouldn't make ANY gains in value if 'real' money investors hadn't been coming in more and more as the years go on. The thing that is gonna give retarded gains is going to be fractions of the global economy shifting into crypto...it's not more and more crypto-nerds just buying em up at higher and higher values. Outside money is coming in, and THEY will measure it in USD/fiat....and it's because of them that bitcoin has even gone up enough for it to be 3k/btc... Look, I invested 2 BTC in Decent six months ago. It was like $1200 back then. If I sell my coins for 2 BTC after the launch I get $5600 because of BTC growth. It looks like I get x5 from my investment but it's stupid. Why would I do that. It doesn't make any sense. I'll be waiting for x10 from my Decent investment, no matter what was going on with BTC price. You need to gain in terms of BTC, not USD if you want to make really good money. That's why I consider Trust slightly over ICO price. The team has 10000 BTC at the moment, so anybody who sell Trust at 0.00013-0.0002 is either stupid or doesn't want to be rich. 👍With you 👊 |
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June 11, 2017, 03:47:19 PM |
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👍With you 👊
you guys are definitely correct as well I'm just trying to be like devil's advocate heheh. for the record I measure my blockfolio in USD but my stash is always just measured in ETH/BTC as idc really what the short term price is, because one day I'll see material world > cryptos and THEN I'll care what the fiat price is. but with that said, all the old-head crypto'ers will measure in btc, but the force that is gonna drive BTC to 10k+ is going to be 'older' money coming in...and likely measuring in USD/CNY/etc. Exciting in any case to see where the world goes, but I liquidated most of my TRST at ~.20-.25 USD and put it into MGO which has already shown promise of 3x (even with btc and eth's slow rise) and I have a feeling when it hits bittrex/polo it's gonna go for a short moon ride. doubt I'll sell then either, think I learned my lesson with Lunyr and TRST but hey I needed a fat stash and a modest liquid pool so I did what I had to do at the time! PS I've since bought back about 50% of the TRST which is what I likely would've held for long term anyway so it seems to be a win-win-win in this market. if you liquidate for another token, that token goes up. if you don't, then whichever you're holding is likely to go up xD |
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June 11, 2017, 04:55:38 PM |
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when is the first product launch due?
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