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April 16, 2013, 12:22:21 AM
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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html#

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15 April 2013 Update

Short update today, more to come in the next day or two, hopefully.

We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down. Things are mostly stabilized at this point and with our current boards (we do not have the redesigned boards in house yet), power usage exceeds the 1w/GH, unfortunately, but it's much better than anything out by 40 - 50%, at the wall. We are gearing up to start shipping out some dev boards and a few Jalapeno's most likely this week (at least a few dev boards) and then as more chips roll in we'll be shipping out the Jalapeno's. When the new boards land in KC, we'll start shipping Little Singles and Singles at that time. I don't currently have a time frame for those, but I should have something later this week in regards to that.

Obviously, the minirig can't fit 1.5 TH/s in a case the size of what we were planning, but we have some interesting solutions with regards to that. Expect and update on there as well, but I did want to let everyone know we have several solutions to solve the minirig issue and we are moving forward on that front.

I did want to quash any rumors that there was something wrong with the chips; there isn't. The chips themselves are fine (other than using more power than we expected), the delay is strictly due to having to re-engineer the power system on the boards (which requires a larger PCB redesign to a degree) and refine/streamline our processes for getting chips from silicon to mounted on boards. Things will be rolling along soon, albeit a bit slow at first, and then picking up speed as the whole process is optimized and finalized.

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April 16, 2013, 12:27:11 AM
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1.You're not shipping yet.

2.You've missed your power mark of 1w/GH

3.You don't have a time frame for the new boards.

4.You can;t fit 1.5 TH into your cases you amassed.

5.You have interesting solutions (i.e. increase size of case?)

6.The "delay is strictly due to having to re-engineer the power system on the boards".

You mean the delay since...

October 2012?
November 2012?
December 2012?
January 2013?
February 2013?
March 2013?

Wow that wasn't much of an update at all. I think everyone here could have guessed all of those points Josh. LOL so fucking fail.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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April 16, 2013, 12:43:36 AM
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i agree with  smoothie   Tongue
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April 16, 2013, 01:06:02 AM
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So everything we've been saying for the past 2 weeks, except when we say it, it's "trolling"

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I did want to quash any rumors that there was something wrong with the chips; there isn't. The chips themselves are fine (other than using more power than we expected),

So there's nothing wrong with the chips, except that they are so far out of spec that the minirig and jalapeno can no longer exist. other than that small issue, they're fine.
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April 16, 2013, 01:07:22 AM
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Wait, since they missed their power target does this mean they're donating 1,000 BTC to charity now?  

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April 16, 2013, 01:10:35 AM
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Wait, since they missed their power target does this mean they're donating 1,000 BTC to charity now?  

Yup, one more issue Josh has not addressed.

Still waiting... Roll Eyes

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April 16, 2013, 01:33:25 AM
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So there's nothing wrong with the chips, except that they are so far out of spec that the minirig and jalapeno can no longer exist. other than that small issue, they're fine.


But the OP says that the Jalapeno is the first thing they are shipping, I don't understand what you mean?

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April 16, 2013, 01:34:43 AM
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Wait, since they missed their power target does this mean they're donating 1,000 BTC to charity now?  

Yup, one more issue Josh has not addressed.

Still waiting... Roll Eyes
yeah, like it's gonna happen.

we're talking about bfl and the employees here.

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April 16, 2013, 02:02:26 AM
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Sorry but this is complete and utter bull shit!!!!

"The chips themselves are fine"

The chips are not "fine"

You said you would just ship more units to meet the hash rate!  WTF!!!  <--- DO THIS!!!!!

Instead you are redesigning a new board with a large enough VR to handle the extra load!

JUST SHIP US OUR PRODUCT!!

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April 16, 2013, 02:08:58 AM
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So there's nothing wrong with the chips, except that they are so far out of spec that the minirig and jalapeno can no longer exist. other than that small issue, they're fine.


But the OP says that the Jalapeno is the first thing they are shipping, I don't understand what you mean?




My guess is that Jalapeno only has 1 asic so power problem can be fixed by external power pak ( just a BOM change) and they have some of the old PCB
in stock that they can use  -----   30 Gh  need new PCB and they need to wait for the pcb to arrive -- 60 GH my guess will be 2 x 30 GH

anyway we should all know later this week
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April 16, 2013, 02:19:30 AM
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My guess is:

Little singles become Jalapenos.

Full singles become Little ones.

Full singles need board redesign to handle extra wattage.

Please bend over and assume the position while your profits evaporate!

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April 16, 2013, 02:22:39 AM
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My guess is that Jalapeno only has 1 asic so power problem can be fixed by external power pak ( just a BOM change) and they have some of the old PCB
in stock that they can use  -----   30 Gh  need new PCB and they need to wait for the pcb to arrive -- 60 GH my guess will be 2 x 30 GH

anyway we should all know later this week

I suppose if they missed the 1GHs/Watt target, then that would have little effect on the small Jalapeno model, but be a total headache for the largest 1,500 GH/s Bitcoin Miner rig, that could end up needing multiple power supplies.


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April 16, 2013, 02:24:51 AM
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Another, string along bullshit update. If only Enterpoint actually had something to ship soon i would be hitting the big refund button.
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April 16, 2013, 02:34:22 AM
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Ya, Excuses and Excuses ... we want action.. josh is good in talking but we want results... if it means 7 days a week work .. go for it .. is like your customers has been waiting for a year. Avalon is going to batch 4 soon and chips already flying out to those who wants them...
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April 16, 2013, 02:35:40 AM
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If I was BFL, I would do this to keep people happy.  Offer people with early orders the chance to double down on their units and continue easy refunds.  This would shake out the weak hands like with the recent BTC crash and keep the loyal fans on and happy.  There'd probably be much less negative press and whining too.
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April 16, 2013, 02:39:25 AM
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Going to be requesting refund soon.  These guys are shady as fuck.

Hardly anyone speaks English on this forum.
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April 16, 2013, 02:43:15 AM
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Here is a possible solution for minirig.

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April 16, 2013, 03:39:24 AM
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What I find most troubling is that the previous update from over 2 weeks ago stated "We plan on shipping possibly by the end of next week" but today they claim "We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down" lol. This means that they are either just lying out of their ass or are in way over their heads and are just making shit up as they go. I really can't think of a third explanation so I'm really pondering canceling my pre-order and pray my batch #2 Avalon's come through...
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April 16, 2013, 03:52:33 AM
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What I find most troubling is that the previous update from over 2 weeks ago stated "We plan on shipping possibly by the end of next week" but today they claim "We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down" lol. This means that they are either just lying out of their ass or are in way over their heads and are just making shit up as they go. I really can't think of a third explanation so I'm really pondering canceling my pre-order and pray my batch #2 Avalon's come through...

Why are you pointing to only the latest example They have been saying "next week" for months.
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April 16, 2013, 04:12:18 AM
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