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January 27, 2018, 04:13:26 AM
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in your opinion guys, are you mining in ashpool or miningpoolhub?

Those of us running 24, 48, 60, 72, and 80 gpu setups use AHashPool because our tests have shown higher daily revenue which is consistent with the 24hr api lookups on these pools.
Check out comparison for 1080ti card on all pools using last 24 hour ACTUAL profit data : https://imgur.com/a/j9Ee5

Those that don't know any better or keep ignoring the comparison chart or have conducted flawed tests to compare (24 hr one pool, a different 24 hr on another pool, etc) still stick to zpool/miningpoolhub/hashrefinery/nicehash



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January 27, 2018, 05:39:15 AM
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Hi

I recently started using nemosminer v2.4.1. I am using the auto algorithm feature and mining to miningpoolhub. I keep getting messages from my antivirus saying a 'threat has been detected. Stopped attempt to connect to www.ahashpool.com' . Why do i keep getting this error? Why is nemosminer even attempting to connect to ahashpool when i am running the miningpoolhub batch file? the previous version i used (v2.2) did not have this problem

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January 27, 2018, 05:46:21 AM
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Hi

I recently started using nemosminer v2.4.1. I am using the auto algorithm feature and mining to miningpoolhub. I keep getting messages from my antivirus saying a 'threat has been detected. Stopped attempt to connect to www.ahashpool.com' . Why do i keep getting this error? Why is nemosminer even attempting to connect to ahashpool when i am running the miningpoolhub batch file? the previous version i used (v2.2) did not have this problem


You should have your virus scanner disabled on your mining rigs

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January 27, 2018, 05:56:32 AM
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New to the game here ..........

It ran for a 24 hour period Jan 24th without issue, but at 01/25/2018 01:16:40 it starts seeing the issue. Here is the log leading up to the issue.

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Last Refresh: 01/25/2018 01:11:54
Sleep 30 sec
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Stats ' Equihash ' ->  1.67 KH after 3355 sec
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Loading BTC rate from 'api.coinbase.com'..
Loading pool stats..
Loading miners..

closing current miner and switching
Idle:  1
    Speed Exited   Active   Cnt  Command
    ----- ------   ------   ---  -------
1.67 KH/s 00:00:00 00:01:52 Once Bin\NVIDIA-DSTM\zm.exe --telemetry=127.0.0.1:2222 --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --port 17023 --user minemonster.machine1 --pass x -d 0 1 2 3 4 5

<I omitted algo benchmarks for space, all OK>

Running:
    Speed Started  Active   Cnt  Command
    ----- -------  ------   ---  -------
0.00 PH/s 00:00:00 00:00:00 Once Bin\NVIDIA-DSTM\zm.exe --telemetry=127.0.0.1:2222 --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --port 17023 --user 1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE.NemosMiner-v2.4.1 --pass x -d 0 1 2 3 4 5

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Last Refresh: 01/25/2018 01:12:40
Sleep 240 sec
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Running:
    Speed Started  Active   Cnt  Command
    ----- -------  ------   ---  -------
0.00 PH/s 00:00:04 00:00:00 Once Bin\NVIDIA-DSTM\zm.exe --telemetry=127.0.0.1:2222 --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --port 17023 --user 1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE.NemosMiner-v2.4.1 --pass x -d 0 1 2 3 4 5


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Last Refresh: 01/25/2018 01:16:40
Sleep 240 sec
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Loading BTC rate from 'api.coinbase.com'..
Loading pool stats..
Loading miners..
1BTC =  11487.36 USD

--<I omitted algo benchmarks for space, all OK>

--<continues to fail with my mph username over and over until I close and rerun startminingpoolhub.bat - >


Running:
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    ----- -------  ------   --- -------
1.67 KH/s 00:00:00 00:01:52 2   Bin\NVIDIA-DSTM\zm.exe --telemetry=127.0.0.1:2222 --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --port 17023 --user minemonster.machine1 --pass x -d 0 1 2 3 4 5

Failed:  1
    Speed Exited   Active   Cnt  Command
    ----- ------   ------   ---  -------
0.00 PH/s 00:00:08 00:00:00 Once Bin\NVIDIA-DSTM\zm.exe --telemetry=127.0.0.1:2222 --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --port 17023 --user 1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE.NemosMiner-v2.4.1 --pass x -d 0 1 2 3 4 5



I have the exact same problem, i am interested to see what the solution is. It does not seem to affect my mining speed though or does it?

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January 27, 2018, 05:58:22 AM
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You should have your virus scanner disabled on your mining rigs

Yes I know that but still that does not explain this. I am mining to MININGPOOLHUB. Why is nemosminer trying to connect to AHASHPOOL? Should it not only be connecting to miningpoolhub?

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January 27, 2018, 06:21:03 AM
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You should have your virus scanner disabled on your mining rigs

Yes I know that but still that does not explain this. I am mining to MININGPOOLHUB. Why is nemosminer trying to connect to AHASHPOOL? Should it not only be connecting to miningpoolhub?

It may be the pool nemo uses for the 5min donated mining time?
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January 27, 2018, 07:32:39 AM
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in your opinion guys, are you mining in ashpool or miningpoolhub?

Those of us running 24, 48, 60, 72, and 80 gpu setups use AHashPool because our tests have shown higher daily revenue which is consistent with the 24hr api lookups on these pools.
Check out comparison for 1080ti card on all pools using last 24 hour ACTUAL profit data : https://imgur.com/a/j9Ee5

Those that don't know any better or keep ignoring the comparison chart or have conducted flawed tests to compare (24 hr one pool, a different 24 hr on another pool, etc) still stick to zpool/miningpoolhub/hashrefinery/nicehash




Can I ask you what's the software you are using for that 24h actual profit data?
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January 27, 2018, 07:44:53 AM
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subscribed.  1 month mining and looking to expand horizons (from nh now that i'm building an actual 6x1080ti rig).  thanks for all the helpful info so far.
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January 27, 2018, 09:16:40 AM
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Guys, is there a miner that controls/changes power limits?!
Just now noticed that power limit is changed...
Started with Power=80%, logged and its 100%... no restarts in mean time...
wtf?!

PS:
I think ccminer-polytimos is setting power=100% and temp limit 80 ...
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Hi guys! Grin

Slow days so i was checking out an alternative for multipoolminer.
I cant get the start.bat file running. I see it for milisec before it shuts down and im sure it has to do with me having powershell 6.01 and not 5.0...
I have no problem start.bat file for each individual pool but the start.bat folder wont start. Hmmmm?



Have a great day  Smiley

EDIT:
found it on github and microsoft page but cant be installed on my win 10 x64.
hmmm... any suggestions?
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Hi guys! Grin

Slow days so i was checking out an alternative for multipoolminer.
I cant get the start.bat file running. I see it for milisec before it shuts down and im sure it has to do with me having powershell 6.01 and not 5.0... a bit frustrating since i cant find it on microsoft download page.
Could anyone give me a direct link for download please?

Have a great day  Smiley

Hi. You need to edit and use one of the start___pool.bat files e.g. startahashpool.bat not start.bat, that's just a file nemosminer needs to work.
All the instructions are on the first post of this thread.

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January 27, 2018, 10:31:45 AM
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Hi guys! Grin

Slow days so i was checking out an alternative for multipoolminer.
I cant get the start.bat file running. I see it for milisec before it shuts down and im sure it has to do with me having powershell 6.01 and not 5.0... a bit frustrating since i cant find it on microsoft download page.
Could anyone give me a direct link for download please?

Have a great day  Smiley

Hi. You need to edit and use one of the start___pool.bat files e.g. startahashpool.bat not start.bat, that's just a file nemosminer needs to work.
All the instructions are on the first post of this thread.



ahh ok ok. i thought that the start.bat used/(run) all the different pools to compare profit. haha
then i guess it works as it should but whats the point of using nemosminer using miningpoolhub instead of using multipoolminer in miningpoolhub?
thx!

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Hi guys! Grin

Slow days so i was checking out an alternative for multipoolminer.
I cant get the start.bat file running. I see it for milisec before it shuts down and im sure it has to do with me having powershell 6.01 and not 5.0... a bit frustrating since i cant find it on microsoft download page.
Could anyone give me a direct link for download please?

Have a great day  Smiley

Hi. You need to edit and use one of the start___pool.bat files e.g. startahashpool.bat not start.bat, that's just a file nemosminer needs to work.
All the instructions are on the first post of this thread.


ahh ok ok. i thought that the start.bat used/(run) all the different pools to compare profit. haha
then i guess it works as it should but whats the point of using nemosminer using miningpoolhub instead of using multipoolminer in miningpoolhub?
thx!


np. can't say – i use ahashpool so haven't tried multipoolminer
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Hi. You need to edit and use one of the start___pool.bat files e.g. startahashpool.bat not start.bat, that's just a file nemosminer needs to work.
All the instructions are on the first post of this thread.

Not true at all. The instructions are woefully incomplete and few things are explained in the subsequent 10 pages of posts to this thread. All too often newbies inundate a thread with repetitive and basic questions but they can hardly be blamed when those questions were not answered preemptively in the first post. Frankly, I find it odd (and self-defeating) that the OP explains how to stop donations, for example, yet fails to address the following:

1) Where should Nemosminer be located? The character string "&. implies a certain location, but searching for Windows Powershell "&. does not give an answer in the 1st page of google results. I ended up replacing "&. with a hard-coded path.

2) Miningpoolhub requires each worker have a password but there is no password switch in the bat file; only after poking around the pool script files did I find out that "x" is the hard-coded password.

3) How/when are the benchmarks for each algo conducted?

4) How can the time spent on each algo be changed? Do I adjust the value in the "-interval 30" switch or via the "-ActiveMinerGainPct 3" switch or both?

Of lesser importance is how to limit the size of .\logs\miner.log - mining rigs tend to run off small SSD or USB thumb drives with much of their space taken up by a fixed size pagefile so this limit could be reached in short order and Windows really starts acting cranky when it runs out of disk space.

And I could probably come up with a few more questions, but you get the idea I'm sure. All that said, I don't want to seem ungrateful - far from it, this is an ingenious script that seems to beat NiceHack at its game - it's just that not providing even the most basic explanation of how this works/should be set up wastes the time of both the OP/script author as well as that of even technically savvy people trying to use it.


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January 27, 2018, 01:03:21 PM
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Check out comparison for 1080ti card on all pools using last 24 hour ACTUAL profit data : https://imgur.com/a/j9Ee5

Those that don't know any better or keep ignoring the comparison chart...


I wouldn't call a screenshot of Awesomeminers coin stats "Actual" profit data mate.

When I used AM, I found many discrepancies and only BTC in my wallet data is the metric I use for anything I would label "Actual"

I run identical rigs in parallel on different pools to gain my data, as should everyone intrested in profits.

@EfEks That was awesomeminer, more of a timevampire and winxpthrowback with lots of uneeded bells and whistles for a simple monitering and autoscript type program.

... above post
Fully agree with you MagicS, One simple readme with clear instructions would save a lot of issues, and other people just not bothering with the program.

Even a simple front end where you could enter the GPU's the Alogs you want and the pool/s you mine on, address details etc, would go a long way.
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January 27, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
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I hope someday someone will make a guide how to use YiiimpLogger with free hosting. Tried today on 000webhost (have sql and cron listed in futures) but nothing succeeded. Maybe someone have step-by-step guide? Thx )

Host it on your own pc using Wamp maybe?
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Hi. You need to edit and use one of the start___pool.bat files e.g. startahashpool.bat not start.bat, that's just a file nemosminer needs to work.
All the instructions are on the first post of this thread.

Not true at all. The instructions are woefully incomplete and few things are explained in the subsequent 10 pages of posts to this thread. All too often newbies inundate a thread with repetitive and basic questions but they can hardly be blamed when those questions were not answered preemptively in the first post. Frankly, I find it odd (and self-defeating) that the OP explains how to stop donations, for example, yet fails to address the following:

1) Where should Nemosminer be located? The character string "&. implies a certain location, but searching for Windows Powershell "&. does not give an answer in the 1st page of google results. I ended up replacing "&. with a hard-coded path.

2) Miningpoolhub requires each worker have a password but there is no password switch in the bat file; only after poking around the pool script files did I find out that "x" is the hard-coded password.

3) How/when are the benchmarks for each algo conducted?

4) How can the time spent on each algo be changed? Do I adjust the value in the "-interval 30" switch or via the "-ActiveMinerGainPct 3" switch or both?

Of lesser importance is how to limit the size of .\logs\miner.log - mining rigs tend to run off small SSD or USB thumb drives with much of their space taken up by a fixed size pagefile so this limit could be reached in short order and Windows really starts acting cranky when it runs out of disk space.

And I could probably come up with a few more questions, but you get the idea I'm sure. All that said, I don't want to seem ungrateful - far from it, this is an ingenious script that seems to beat NiceHack at its game - it's just that not providing even the most basic explanation of how this works/should be set up wastes the time of both the OP/script author as well as that of even technically savvy people trying to use it.

I've been using nemos and following this thread for a while now so my recall of the initial learning curve and what's been said where is a bit hazy…

I agree out of date and/or minimal documentation is an irritating aspect of a lot of mining software. At least this thread is a relatively manageable size and has a good signal to noise ratio compared to wading through with something like claymore's thread.

Fwiw…

1) I've have always been able to run from any folder without hardcoding a path so not sure why you had to do this.

2) From memory mph was added later and the password requirement was probably mentioned in the thread at that time without updating the first post.

3) Benchmarks run when no file for the algo/miner exists in the stats folder. Selected algos will be benchmarked on their first run and this is done by actively mining it on the pool and recording the hashrate. After that a benchmark will only run if you enable a new algo, a new miner gets installed or you've deleted one/all of the files e.g. to force a new benchmark when changing a card or tweaking overclocks etc.

4) The -interval switch is how often the pools are checked for the best algo then the -ActiveMinerGainPct switch means it will only switch to that algo if it is earning more than x% more than the current one. This is a great new feature when the top 2 algos are only a few cents apart to stop the miner flip flopping between them every time they swapped place for little/no extra reward. In fact less because of the shares lost in switching and getting back up to speed.

What's going on with your log files?! I checked a few rigs and the largest size I can find is <10MB. You've got bigger targets to save space than nemosminer logs if that's all the free space you have on the drive. I highly recommend a 64gb cheapo ssd + win10 litewinos 'distro' (from memory ~10gb installed) = plenty of free space even with a 32gb pagefile.





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January 27, 2018, 01:36:22 PM
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Check out comparison for 1080ti card on all pools using last 24 hour ACTUAL profit data : https://imgur.com/a/j9Ee5

Those that don't know any better or keep ignoring the comparison chart...


I wouldn't call a screenshot of Awesomeminers coin stats "Actual" profit data mate.

When I used AM, I found many discrepancies and only BTC in my wallet data is the metric I use for anything I would label "Actual"

I run identical rigs in parallel on different pools to gain my data, as should everyone intrested in profits.

@EfEks That was awesomeminer, more of a timevampire and winxpthrowback with lots of uneeded bells and whistles for a simple monitering and autoscript type program.

... above post
Fully agree with you MagicS, One simple readme with clear instructions would save a lot of issues, and other people just not bothering with the program.

Even a simple front end where you could enter the GPU's the Alogs you want and the pool/s you mine on, address details etc, would go a long way.

If you set Statistics '24 hr avg' in AM yes the ONLINE SERVICES tab is displaying 'actual 24 hour avg profit data' as retrieved directly from each pool via their API.

FARM #1 : 60 GPUs spread across 6 rigs (1080ti/1080/1070ti/1070)
FARM #2 : 72 GPUs spread across 12 rigs (1070ti x 6)
FARM #3 : 16 GPUs spread across 4 rigs (1080ti x 4)
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January 27, 2018, 02:09:14 PM
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I've been using nemos and following this thread for a while now so my recall of the initial learning curve and what's been said where is a bit hazy…

I agree out of date and/or minimal documentation is an irritating aspect of a lot of mining software. At least this thread is a relatively manageable size and has a good signal to noise ratio compared to wading through with something like claymore's thread.

Thanks for taking the time to write a complete response; I'll try not to punish you unduly for doing so!  Grin

So the one thing I am going to totally disagree with you is that telling someone, "the answer is in the thread - go read it," is totally unrealistic when the thread is 100+ pages long. Granted, some questions really are stupid and don't deserve a better response, but if the question is about how the program/script/batch file works and it wasn't addressed in the very first post then it's not the noob being lazy here, it's the OP.


1) I've have always been able to run from any folder without hardcoding a path so not sure why you had to do this.

Upon further consideration, that might be because I right-clicked on the batch file and ran it as administrator so it wasn't starting in the current directory.

2) From memory mph was added later and the password requirement was probably mentioned in the thread at that time without updating the first post.

See first paragraph; if the instructions aren't in the first post - or, at least, the first page of posts - then don't expect them to be followed/known.

3) Benchmarks run when no file for the algo/miner exists in the stats folder. Selected algos will be benchmarked on their first run and this is done by actively mining it on the pool and recording the hashrate. After that a benchmark will only run if you enable a new algo, a new miner gets installed or you've deleted one/all of the files e.g. to force a new benchmark when changing a card or tweaking overclocks etc.

Gotcha. I knew it benchmarked at some point because the results are displayed in the main shell window, I just didn't know when/how it did it.

4) The -interval switch is how often the pools are checked for the best algo then the -ActiveMinerGainPct switch means it will only switch to that algo if it is earning more than x% more than the current one. This is a great new feature when the top 2 algos are only a few cents apart to stop the miner flip flopping between them every time they swapped place for little/no extra reward. In fact less because of the shares lost in switching and getting back up to speed.

I understood the -ActiveMinerGainPct switch and changed it to 5% for the very reason you explained, but the -interval switch was a real mystery; I wasn't even sure what the units were - milliseconds, seconds, minutes? Now that you've explained it I think I'll change it to 300 seconds because 30 seconds is barely enough time for most miners to get up to speed.

What's going on with your log files?! I checked a few rigs and the largest size I can find is <10MB. You've got bigger targets to save space than nemosminer logs if that's all the free space you have on the drive. I highly recommend a 64gb cheapo ssd + win10 litewinos 'distro' (from memory ~10gb installed) = plenty of free space even with a 32gb pagefile.

Oh, I wasn't running out of space... yet... but if there is not a way to specify the maximum size of a log file and/or it is not overwritten each startup then it will consume all the free space on the drive, eventually.
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January 27, 2018, 02:33:31 PM
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is displaying 'actual 24 hour avg profit data' as retrieved directly from each pool via their API.

Supposed to be I grant you, but here you are relying on AM, and the Pool stats.
Both of which can and have been woefully wrong many times.
From simply not updating the AM software, or a glitch, or api not refreshing I could go on...


Simplify things, just take the pool stats directly, check them against what you are getting in your wallet - job done.
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