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Author Topic: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED!  (Read 149991 times)
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October 22, 2013, 03:14:43 PM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajd96YUD1TckdFJWZS1Jc3lvelVSZEt0Y3hfRUhGYWc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

This one. I'll probably import the pending refunds to that list you mentioned above and have everyone do a last check before sending out.

On the spreadsheet it states I'm entitled to refunds for 480 chips, but I *did* end up selling 14 chips to redphlegm. So that should read 466 chips instead.
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October 22, 2013, 03:18:17 PM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajd96YUD1TckdFJWZS1Jc3lvelVSZEt0Y3hfRUhGYWc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

This one. I'll probably import the pending refunds to that list you mentioned above and have everyone do a last check before sending out.

Looks good for me. Thanks!
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October 22, 2013, 03:51:09 PM
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thanks Yufi for giving me ROI on this venture

everyone, let's do this again same time next year!   Kiss

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October 22, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
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Wooot! Finally got my refund! Thanks again, John, and those involved in making this happen. SO relieved to have this thing put behind us.

Never again!

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October 22, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
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Refund received, thanks to JohnK for making sure we didn't get screwed.
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October 22, 2013, 05:49:24 PM
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mine also look right .. 1KKq

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October 22, 2013, 06:05:20 PM
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things look good, thank you JohnK!

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October 22, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajd96YUD1TckdFJWZS1Jc3lvelVSZEt0Y3hfRUhGYWc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

This one. I'll probably import the pending refunds to that list you mentioned above and have everyone do a last check before sending out.

Looks good for me. Thanks!

All good here.
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October 22, 2013, 06:49:59 PM
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paid in 5.5btc, got 5.34 back. not quite what i expected, but i see there was something about fees.

don't want to argue about it, and if you do come up with the extra .16btc, you can keep it. i'd hate to have been in your position.

shame this didn't go through in the end, but what can you do.

thanks,
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October 22, 2013, 07:38:42 PM
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Got mine back, thanks JohnK! Hey at least bitcoin is worth almost double when we bought into this.
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October 22, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
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Hey all,

My apologies for the delay - my restore of a secure operating system took longer than I expected, and am back for good now.

And no, I'm not stalling - I am desperate as you guys are to send out this refund for once and for all as I am absolutely gaining nothing (except angry PM's and the added risk) for holding the coins here. I am comparing the lists (RaginAzn Avalon Group Buy #1 Refund (Responses)and RagingAzn628 Group Buy) bigbeninlondon had kindly set up here, and have loaded the funds up to be sent ASAP.

Cheers,
John

I would like any insight you are willing to share about "secure operating systems"

I try to be respectful and informed.
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October 22, 2013, 08:09:14 PM
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Thanks, received my refund. Relieved  Grin
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October 22, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
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paid in 5.5btc, got 5.34 back. not quite what i expected, but i see there was something about fees.

don't want to argue about it, and if you do come up with the extra .16btc, you can keep it. i'd hate to have been in your position.

shame this didn't go through in the end, but what can you do.

thanks,

We still paid John K his escrow fee; he fulfilled his side of the bargain and is entitled to the agreed upon fee.
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October 22, 2013, 08:40:09 PM
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John,
I am ashamed to say that I was weak and held some reservations about your integrity.

I am glad to say that I was wrong.

We are square.

Please forgive me,
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October 22, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
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I'm not on either refund list, but I've participated in this thread, pm'd, and filled out the redphlegm form twice.

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October 22, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
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I know this is awfully irresponsible of me, but I vanished for sometime.... Anyway, I looked at my MtGox transactions and it seems like I contributed 5.16 BTC to this a long time ago

2013/04/25 22:35:42    Withdraw       5.16000000 BTC    38.63092080 BTC
Bitcoin withdraw to 1At75rKd6e8b7S7AAPzZ5V3kAzhkGYhnpU

Not sure whatever happened Sad

Original post in this thread announcing the purchase? Transaction ID?

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Hey sorry about the delay. I just flew in for a business trip. I sent 5.16 BTC via MtGox.

The transaction is under way, for your information, the transaction ID is:
bc4ed5d44166100127dfacf04ffbdc4385e5c1fe19325118e3c4666ec3421156

Please let me know if there's issues with this transaction.

post in thread and PM JohnK thanks!
I'm an idiot about this I know... I sent my payment and then I got pulled in for a business trip that went to hell and I honestly have had a crazy life the past few months before I logged back in here.... Ugh. I never posted on this thread...

You should still be in the original spreadsheet. You are not. All 10000 of the chips were accounted for by people listed there.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dGU0VzhHRGpOOUxudWkxdWpDN3RmbFE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Therefore I can't see how you are entitled to a refund.

If you can sign with one of the original funding addresses that might be a different story, but that means you should control an alias in that list.

The thing is I have the transaction ID where I paid the address that we were supposed to pay. I swear I saw my name on the spreadsheet a few times too, but after I got pulled to my Business trip, I never really looked back. I got so swamped with life and work that this was just a forgotten thing. I guess I'm just trying to figure out where my 5.16 BTC went. I guess it went down the drain and I got screwed Sad
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October 23, 2013, 12:22:27 AM
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I'm not on the list either.  I've got 820 chips (60 of them were purchased from mrno12).

Please use 14vpWKmvUQk1Zy4msML5GvSsGd7TuBhSoy as a refund address.

Thanks!

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October 23, 2013, 01:17:05 AM
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You should still be in the original spreadsheet. You are not. All 10000 of the chips were accounted for by people listed there.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dGU0VzhHRGpOOUxudWkxdWpDN3RmbFE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Therefore I can't see how you are entitled to a refund.

If you can sign with one of the original funding addresses that might be a different story, but that means you should control an alias in that list.

The thing is I have the transaction ID where I paid the address that we were supposed to pay. I swear I saw my name on the spreadsheet a few times too, but after I got pulled to my Business trip, I never really looked back. I got so swamped with life and work that this was just a forgotten thing. I guess I'm just trying to figure out where my 5.16 BTC went. I guess it went down the drain and I got screwed Sad

I would normally say that you have lost your btc as you either need to a) demonstrate that you own one of the btc addresses that sent 5.16 to the group buy account by signing a message, or b) demonstrate that you own one of the bitcointalk accounts that bought 5.16 btc worth of chips. If you can't do one of those things, then the btc must have gone somewhere else, because as far as I'm aware, all of the btc that were received were accounted for.

Think about it - if you didn't have to do one of those things, then anyone could just post here and say "I sent 5.16 btc and then went on a business trip" - clearly we can't just start sending btc to anyone who says that...

Having said that, it seems there were four payments of 5.16 btc to the address but only three users that paid 5.16 btc on the spreadsheet, so you could be in luck (see transactions below).

In order to prove it though, I think you still need two things to happen in your favour:
1) The extra funds need to still be in the escrow address. If there are no extra funds in that address once all other payments are accounted for, your payment must have been refunded at some earlier stage.
2) JohnK should be allowed in to your mtgox account. This will allow him to verify that a payment was indeed sent from your mtgox account to the right address at a time that corresponds to one of the four payments below. Copy/pasted text or screenshots would not suffice here because you need to prove it is from *your* account that the payment was made, and screenshots are too easily doctored. In theory, anyone could check the blockchain (as I just did), notice there was an extra 5.16 paid that's not in the spreadsheet and claim it, so your mtgox transaction history is the only way to prove it was you who paid it, and this means someone trusted by both sides (JohnK) needs to be given your mtgox login details to verify.

Payments list: https://blockchain.info/address/1At75rKd6e8b7S7AAPzZ5V3kAzhkGYhnpU?offset=0&filter=2
Payments of 5.16:
https://blockchain.info/tx/48cfb99c9dbc1750b1319c6f2121302083359544acf42d8bb47a3852c41fcee1
https://blockchain.info/tx/6d969e3931b6bf6c78b32833767c30c3176bc67cd620b52523dba28da00c5c3a
https://blockchain.info/tx/cc6cbf7458df1fca4366bc1dbe2713d17b7aff3b3d916907491f3e879c00b37f
https://blockchain.info/tx/bc4ed5d44166100127dfacf04ffbdc4385e5c1fe19325118e3c4666ec3421156

one for 5.1 (just to show that the four 5.16's above are separate from GodFader's payment of 5.1)
https://blockchain.info/tx/bfa9d49db960463ec4ab4a981d6d3640249eb9d28e4ac313e6814beb04a1a7bb

Vycid - theoretically chip count should mean no one that is not on the list gets a refund. In practice though, if someone submitted funds, ragin didn't see them and JohnK ignored them and left them in the wallet... then they could be excluded from the chip count. In that case though, they should still have been sitting in the wallet.
It looks like there was somehow 5.16 left in the wallet after the chips were purchased that went to:
https://blockchain.info/address/16kbqtQNtLGvERubGS4QDmgLgv5fQAQcZy
This was the final payment out of the group buy wallet, and I'm not sure why it went there from the wallet.

Perhaps JohnK could clarify this - if those funds are sitting unclaimed in a wallet controlled by JohnK, then it might be worth logging into dmo580's mtgox account to verify that he did make the payment to the groupbuy address, as he may be the rightful owner.

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October 23, 2013, 02:15:29 AM
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Seriously. What else do I need to do? send it to the address in my sig please, the same address on everyone's sheet
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October 23, 2013, 03:16:09 AM
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Refund received, thanks to JohnK for making it happen!
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