Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns

[rancidgash]

I'm not even able to see 'Max' and 'Escrow' at the moment (and I guess It's the case for other people as well) unless I make things smaller so another column will screw the table probably.

What resolution do you use? HD, or even lower? With fHD it currently fits nicely and has enough space for at least another column (I think).

I'm using the recommended (and the maximum) resolution1280x1024 and It shows like the first picture I posted and as I said , to see them I need to change the zoom in the browser.

It is for sure about your screen resolution. Make your life easier and use 1366x768 then you will see everything better

About one more column - i think it is not necessary. Information about escrow is good enough.

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[jamalaezaz]

I'm not even able to see 'Max' and 'Escrow' at the moment (and I guess It's the case for other people as well) unless I make things smaller so another column will screw the table probably.

What resolution do you use? HD, or even lower? With fHD it currently fits nicely and has enough space for at least another column (I think).

I'm using the recommended (and the maximum) resolution1280x1024 and It shows like the first picture I posted and as I said , to see them I need to change the zoom in the browser.

It is for sure about your screen resolution. Make your life easier and use 1366x768 then you will see everything better

About one more column - i think it is not necessary. Information about escrow is good enough.

but I want that manager's column too.. because I love to see my name in more places and become more and more famous. 

[jacee]

new campaign:
Bitdice https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697546.0

fixed payrate for 30 posts weekly

Full Members - 0.03 BTC per week
Senior Members - 0.035 BTC per week
Hero & Legendary Members - 0.045BTC  per week

[Fatanut]

Maybe we can do something like:

CFNP

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Bitsler (yahoo62278)

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post/weekly

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0.0015

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0.0014

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0.00133

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x

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x

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x

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x

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1/w

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30/w

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N

|

Just so we wouldn't add another column but still have the name of the manager in the table. I put in the current table, and it looks like this in my browser:

The name of the manager is just below the name of the campaign and it doesn't consume any horizontal space (which fixes the issue about the horizontal length of the table).

[kotwica666]

When you put manager name next to campaign name, in most situations it will be two-line text. It will make the table much bigger.
In a situation where the number of the campaigns is constantly increasing, I believe that this is not the best solution.

[alani123]

Seeing that many people complain about the table's size, I think that a way to reduce it a little would be to shorten the contents of the term field. Since it's always pretty standard post/weekly could become post/w or even p/w, post/biweekly fixed/biweekly to fixed/biw or f/bw etc. And Legendary could be shortened to Legen.

But other than that, bitcointalk's tables aren't that flexible and there's not much that can be done. This is something I've been complaining about for a while.

[Fatanut]

When you put manager name next to campaign name, in most situations it will be two-line text. It will make the table much bigger.
In a situation where the number of the campaigns is constantly increasing, I believe that this is not the best solution.

Yup, vertically though not horizontally. People are only having problems with the horizontal length. I don't know why people suddenly have issues about the size of the table when it has always been like this.

My suggestion: Remove the status column and just dedicate one row to indicate the status of the following campaigns. It would be like this:

ACTIVE

Campaign

|

Term

|

Legendary

|

Hero

|

Senior

|

Full

|

Member

|

Junior

|

Newbie

|

Min

|

Max

|

Escrow

|

777Coin

|

post/weekly

|

**

|

**

|

**

|

0.00017

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0.00012

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0.00006

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x

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20/w

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80/w

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Y/N

|

Bitmixer.io

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post/weekly

|

0.0007

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0.0007

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0.0007

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x

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x

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x

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x

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x

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0.035BTC

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N

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Edit: Formatting the whole table to look like the above.

[kotwica666]

When you put manager name next to campaign name, in most situations it will be two-line text. It will make the table much bigger.
In a situation where the number of the campaigns is constantly increasing, I believe that this is not the best solution.

Yup, vertically though not horizontally. People are only having problems with the horizontal length. I don't know why people suddenly have issues about the size of the table when it has always been like this.

Maybe we can remove the status column and just dedicate one row to indicate the status of the following campaigns.

Horizontal issues are only because many people is using 1280x1024 screen resolution, and they don't see full table - change on your pc/laptop for a while - you'll see. To see full table correct they must apply at least 1366x768 resolution.
About managers names - to be honest i don't see reason to put them to the table. But if you think that it can be important information for participants, maybe it will be possible in the way that show alani123
When you cut colums:
Term: post/weekly -> p/w ; fixed/monthly - > f/m ; post/biweekly -> p/biw
Legendary -> Legend
Escrow -> Escr

It probably will make space for Manager column.

Edit: Status column is very helpful.

Look at the quote in my suggestion, the status is still there but do not need to occupy one column. It looks like that but the code is actually messed up.

The manager column was suggested by Lauda.

Edit: I guess let's just wait for other people's suggestions. Figuring out how to code my idea takes so much time.

Status over the campaigns list looks good.

Let's wait for others.

[Fatanut]

Edit: Status column is very helpful.

Look at the quote in my suggestion, the status is still there but do not need to occupy one column. It looks like that but the code is actually messed up.

The manager column was suggested by Lauda.

Edit: I guess let's just wait for other people's suggestions. Figuring out how to code my idea takes so much time.
Edit: I think colspan isn't supported here.
I tried:

Code:

[td="24"][/td]
[td=24][/td]
[td colspan=24][/td]
[td colspan="24"][/td]
[td="colspan: 24"][/td]

and none of them works.

[Lauda]

My suggestion: Remove the status column and just dedicate one row to indicate the status of the following campaigns. It would be like this:

ACTIVE

Campaign

|

Term

|

Legendary

|

Hero

|

Senior

|

Full

|

Member

|

Junior

|

Newbie

|

Min

|

Max

|

Escrow

|

777Coin

|

post/weekly

|

**

|

**

|

**

|

0.00017

|

0.00012

|

0.00006

|

x

|

20/w

|

80/w

|

Y/N

|

Bitmixer.io

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post/weekly

|

0.0007

|

0.0007

|

0.0007

|

x

|

x

|

x

|

x

|

x

|

0.035BTC

|

N

|

Edit: Formatting the whole table to look like the above.

This looks very good to me. There is no need to keep the status as a separate column for each campaign since they are already sorted based on their existing status. This saves up space that could be used for something else if needed.
There are possible workarounds, it just depends on whether people actually want managers to be part of the overview.

[Fatanut]

This looks very good to me. There is no need to keep the status as a separate column for each campaign since they are already sorted based on their existing status. This saves up space that could be used for something else if needed.

This is exactly what's on my mind. The only problem right now is I don't know how to code it. I tried my best but I really can't figure it out. I found the code 'colspan' but it doesn't work.

[Lauda]

This is exactly what's on my mind. The only problem right now is I don't know how to code it. I tried my best but I really can't figure it out. I found the code 'colspan' but it doesn't work.

Well, instead of a singular table, try working around it. For instance, end the current table when you need a centralized text (e.g. 'Closed') and then open another table. However, this may complicate the code a bit further.

[Fatanut]

This is exactly what's on my mind. The only problem right now is I don't know how to code it. I tried my best but I really can't figure it out. I found the code 'colspan' but it doesn't work.

Well, instead of a singular table, try working around it. For instance, end the current table when you need a centralized text (e.g. 'Closed') and then open another table. However, this may complicate the code a bit further.

I tried that. The horizontal length of the tables do not match with each other.

Edit: I PMed Avirunes asking about how to do the codes. Hope we can get some help for the table.

[actmyname]

I tried that. The horizontal length of the tables do not match with each other.

Edit: I PMed Avirunes asking about how to do the codes. Hope we can get some help for the table.
Let me move the updated table in this post:
-snip-

Perhaps to fix that issue, you should add in a final empty column -- one that has the widest column's letters but invisible like so <--- like so. example with highlight

#ECEDF3 is the color; this should theoretically be the simplest brute-force way to resolve the problem. Example: Let's Talk About The Future would be an invisible phrase within an empty column in PNYC, FLUX, and CFNP.

[LoyceV]

What do people think about adding another column, i.e. 'Manager'? I think it is also important to list, and provide a nice overview of users managing the campaigns in question. This comes with the cost of widening the list, thus making it look worse on some smaller screens.

I'm not even able to see 'Max' and 'Escrow' at the moment (and I guess It's the case for other people as well) unless I make things smaller so another column will screw the table probably.

I have to switch from "window" to full screen to see the full table.

Seeing that many people complain about the table's size, I think that a way to reduce it a little would be to shorten the contents of the term field. Since it's always pretty standard post/weekly could become post/w or even p/w, post/biweekly fixed/biweekly to fixed/biw or f/bw etc. And Legendary could be shortened to Legen.

I have an additional suggestion: switch from Bitcoins to milliBitcoins, and abbreviate all accounts levels.
Example:
Member | Junior > would become > Mbr | Jr
0.00017 | 0.00006 > would become > 0.17 | 0.06
"Let's Talk About The Future" is the widest in its column, it can be shortened to the maximum width "Crypto-Games.net" has now.
This makes the table more compact without removing data.

[Lutpin]

Signature campaign is stopped. Decision regarding how payout will be distributed is still to be made. I will let you all know.

I've discussed with Avirunes and the Ebitz signature campaign has been stopped, effective immediately.
It can be removed from the listing.

"Let's Talk About The Future" is the widest in its column, it can be shortened to the maximum width "Crypto-Games.net" has now.

Rename it to WhyFuture (their domain name), problem solved.

[Fatanut]

Finally figured it out! This is my biggest contribution to this thread so far aside from updating the table (almost) every day. I hope it fixes the problem of most users.
https://paste.ee/r/4MSnW
Edit: Still wasn't satisfied with the length of the table. I renamed Let's Talk About the Future and then removed the ".io" and ".net" of some items so the table can be as narrow as it could be.
https://paste.ee/r/fSJM2

[InvoKing]

hey fatanut, i find the new table better than the previous one but i have one suggestion
can we remove theses abbreviations?

The following abbreviations will be used for campaigns (where applicable):
A   ||   Currently active
PNYC   ||   Payment not yet confirmed
FLUX   ||   Campaign in flux between closed and accepting
CFNP   ||   Closed for new participants

i mean you could just write it in a whole letter like this  
   A  --> Currently active
|   Campaign ...etc

EDIT: you can also put something like this in order to implement lauda's suggestion
bitmixer.io (Ld) or bitmixer.io-Ld or Ld/bitmixer or 1/bitmixer.io
whyfuture (Lp) or ... or .... or 2/whyfuture
...etc
then Ld -> Lauda or 1 -> Lauda
lp -> Lutpin or 2 -> Lutpin

[Fatanut]

hey fatanut, i find the new table better than the previous one

Thanks!

can we remove theses abbreviations?

Actually we can't. Not at the moment at least. The A, PNYC, CFNP, and FLUX words are all in the same column as the "Full" column. I can go and put one word per column which would occupy the Hero, Senior, Full, and Member column to implement your idea but it would expand the columns because of the words "Participants" in CFNP, "Accepting" in FLUX (in between closed and accepting).

If someone could find a way to merge cells or something similar to the "colspan" syntax, then we can implement your idea.

[SFR10]

Here's a sample of how the table could be a bit more compact.

Current table:

A

|

Campaign

|

Term

|

Legendary

|

Hero

|

Senior

|

Full

|

Member

|

Junior

|

Newbie

|

Min

|

Max

|

Escrow

|

|

777Coin

|

post/weekly

|

**

|

**

|

**

|

0.00017

|

0.00012

|

0.00006

|

x

|

20/w

|

80/w

|

Y/N

|

|

WhyFuture

|

post/weekly

|

0.00032

|

0.00032

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0.00027

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0.0002

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0.00012

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0.00006

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0.00005

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15/w

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45/w

|

Y

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Proposed table:

A

|

Campaign

|

Term

|

L

|

H

|

S

|

F

|

M

|

J

|

N

|

Min-Max║Escrow

|

|

777Coin

|

p/w

|

**

|

**

|

**

|

.00017

|

.00012

|

.00006

|

x

|

20/w-80/w║Y/N

|

|

WhyFuture

|

p/w

|

.00032

|

.00032

|

.00027

|

.0002

|

.00012

|

.00006

|

.00005

|

15/w-45/w║Y

|

Changes:

Code:

1. Changed post/weekly to p/w (suggested by alani123 and kotwica666)
2. Changed rank names to their first letters only
3. Combined the last three columns into a single column
4. Removed the 0 before the decimal point

The 2nd and 3rd (modified with shorena's suggestion) table fits perfectly up to 1024 x 768 resolution.

Update:

May I suggest not to cram Min-Max and Escrow in the same field?

Sure, here's the modification with your suggestion:

A

|

Campaign

|

Term

|

L

|

H

|

S

|

F

|

M

|

J

|

N

|

Min-Max

|

Escrow

|

|

777Coin

|

p/w

|

**

|

**

|

**

|

.00017

|

.00012

|

.00006

|

x

|

20/w-80/w

|

Y/N

|

|

WhyFuture

|

p/w

|

.00032

|

.00032

|

.00027

|

.0002

|

.00012

|

.00006

|

.00005

|

15/w-45/w

|

Y

|

Changes:

Code:

1. Reverted back the last column into two columns (suggested by shorena)