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February 08, 2017, 04:55:13 PM
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Hello Everybody !

I am a French Student in a Business School, and  currently working on BitCoin

On a last topic, I asked if it is possible to monitor or at least reduce the price volatility of BTC, but it seems not to be  the case (or in a very hard way so)

Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...

Thanks for your answer !

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February 08, 2017, 05:03:47 PM
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I think if the company is full inside bitcoins you need to trust it or don't use. If you want less risk don't use only bitcoins, just a % of your company in bitcoins and the rest in fiat. But me and I believe most persons here don't believe bitcoin will have a big fall on its price, at least for now.
It's upon to you, trust bitcoin or not?

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February 08, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
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The exposure to volatility comes from holding Bitcoin as an investment or as trading capital. The exposure to trading margins is more significant when using Bitcoin as a payment option, but of course margins are wider when the price is volatile. There are a number of Bitcoin futures and derivatives trading sites if you want to hedge the price or speculate.

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February 08, 2017, 05:39:40 PM
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Dealing with Bitcoin has certain risks, especialy for companies, but on the other hand every investment has its own risk that is inevitable. Volatility comes with Bitcoin price and there is no way to fuly protect yourself from risks you can only find some kind of balance but you can't influence the volatility.

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February 08, 2017, 05:48:25 PM
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I think risk for the company stay till bitcoin will not be used and accepted everywhere, cause of if the firm will work with bitcoin today it stays million places who work with fiat and the pricechanging will affect on you a lot, your business even can die if the price for bitcoin will fall. But in the case if bitcoin will be used such risk will be minimal.
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February 08, 2017, 05:57:41 PM
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Hello Everybody !

I am a French Student in a Business School, and  currently working on BitCoin

On a last topic, I asked if it is possible to monitor or at least reduce the price volatility of BTC, but it seems not to be  the case (or in a very hard way so)

Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...

Thanks for your answer !

Quentin

Mitigating against risk in the case of bitcoin will be very difficult if you still keep it in that currency. It is true that the currency comes with enormous risk and that is why some people might conclude that its a ponzi scheme until when we have a commercial hub that tries as much to regulate price I guess the only way to mitigate against risk is be ready to withdraw and convert to Fiat as soon as possible and other means is if you happen to get an asset with bitcoin then go for it because if you dont by the minute the value of bitcoin you have might not be able to get that same commodity in the case of fall in price.
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February 08, 2017, 06:08:52 PM
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How about when price skyrockets from low $400 and goes to high $1000? the profit is good then but when comes to fall and decreasing value you want to talk about precautions? you can't have both sorry. don't be fooled by day traders trying to make you panic sell, bitcoin wont lose it's value.

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February 08, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
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Hello Everybody !

I am a French Student in a Business School, and  currently working on BitCoin

On a last topic, I asked if it is possible to monitor or at least reduce the price volatility of BTC, but it seems not to be  the case (or in a very hard way so)

Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...

Thanks for your answer !

Quentin
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February 08, 2017, 10:32:48 PM
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Hello Everybody !

I am a French Student in a Business School, and  currently working on BitCoin

On a last topic, I asked if it is possible to monitor or at least reduce the price volatility of BTC, but it seems not to be  the case (or in a very hard way so)

Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...

Thanks for your answer !

Quentin

It is the same with companies that operate with fiat currencies. When there was a decline in dollars value how you reduce risk.
If your company or your customer payments is not bitcoin related then it is best to watch bitcoin only as a potential long term investment

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February 08, 2017, 10:57:23 PM
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I don't think there is a way to reduce the risk let alone the loss itself if it happens.It is what it is,if the BTC price falls the company has to face that and try to get over it,on the other hand if BTC's price goes up happy days are coming so it's like for everybody else here.

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February 09, 2017, 02:18:08 AM
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I think all business is definitely a risk, respectively, things that need to be prevented is that you are always looking for information before making a decision and if I think if you hold bitcoin in the long run I believe it will benefit you

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February 09, 2017, 02:30:40 AM
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Hello Everybody !

I am a French Student in a Business School, and  currently working on BitCoin

On a last topic, I asked if it is possible to monitor or at least reduce the price volatility of BTC, but it seems not to be  the case (or in a very hard way so)

Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...

Thanks for your answer !

Quentin

Just like when there a fluctuations in value in the dollar/euro or euro/yen or whatever currency pairs, you can hedge against it. It is more difficult with bitcoin right now, of course, but if/when the bitcoin etf is trading, it will be easier.

Alternatively, you could use a payment processor which immediately converts to fiat. 

It really just is a question of the amount of risk you want to hedge and the amount you are willing to pay to do so.



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February 09, 2017, 04:15:37 AM
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you can't do much about bitcoin price volatility except wait for more adoption and the market to grow much bigger so that the volatility decreases as it has been compared to a couple of years ago.

but as a business what they usually do is that they convert to fiat right on the spot. for example when you buy something from Steam through bitpay, that service converts the fiat to bitcoin then asks the user to deposit that amount. after user deposited that amount they "most probably" change it to fiat and credit Steam.

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February 09, 2017, 04:20:01 AM
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You know, bitcoin is controled by big whales. They control the price. We can reduce the risk if they will just stick to bitcoin. No dumping, just adoption. But that seems impossible to happen. Im used to bitcoin's volatility and so as the others. We are risk takers. Maybe its not the right field for you mate. If you want less risk. You should go for gold.
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February 09, 2017, 04:29:24 AM
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Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...
No i haven't seen/heard about such packages but like in forex trading you can also set stop loss option so that your sell order can get executed when price tries to go down below any price range.

However we have to trust those trading platform with our full amount of bitcoin which is pretty much risky, looking at history of few exchanger who got hacked before.
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February 09, 2017, 05:51:42 AM
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Well most smaller companies and merchants work through payment processors and these payment processors eliminate almost all risk for these companies, because all bitcoins received as a payment are directly converted to fiat. So in this way the price drop does not influence these companies.

These companies can also stipulate that only a percentage of the coins must be converted back to fiat, to give them the option to profit from price increases. ^smile^

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February 09, 2017, 06:55:18 AM
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if you only want to monitor for the price, you can stay with your computer and take a look in the market and i am sure you can see the volatile. but to predicting about when the price is falls or increase, i think you need more than to look in the market because it is related with the trend in the market. i think there are no other ways to limit the risk when we know the price is getting down and the only ways we can do is selling our bitcoin before its down too much but we can get loss in fiat value.
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February 09, 2017, 07:10:06 AM
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Just because of the increased volatility, business people hesitate to accept bitcoin into their business. Now the volatility have decreased much compared to the past days. Making half the investment in terms of bitcoin and the remaining in the form of fiat is the best way to reduce the risk of using bitcoin into company purpose.
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February 09, 2017, 07:24:02 AM
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Just because of the increased volatility, business people hesitate to accept bitcoin into their business. Now the volatility have decreased much compared to the past days. Making half the investment in terms of bitcoin and the remaining in the form of fiat is the best way to reduce the risk of using bitcoin into company purpose.
True that,it's actually better if you diversify your investments,I hope that the violatility settles,well I know that it can't go away fully,but as long as it's on the positive side,it's all great Cheesy I think that companies can afford whether BTC goes down,just if not too much

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February 09, 2017, 07:31:54 AM
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Hello Everybody !

I am a French Student in a Business School, and  currently working on BitCoin

On a last topic, I asked if it is possible to monitor or at least reduce the price volatility of BTC, but it seems not to be  the case (or in a very hard way so)

Now I have another question: are there ways to reduce / or at least to limit the risks for a company when a sudden fall in price happens ?
Like a financial package, or baskets of stocks ...

Thanks for your answer !

Quentin

If you have an investment, a huge investment then you are troubled by the volatility of bitcoins then the most or the best thing to do is to diversify. I suggest that fifty percent of your capital goes to bitcoin and then the remaining 50% just stick to US dollars more . Then place thirty percent of your bitcoins to other coins like ethereum, monero and others. The purpose of your dollar is when the price of bitcoin becomes lower then dont sell your bitcoin but use your remaining dollars to buy more bitcoins.
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