[11.2kW SOLAR/WIND/MAN] NastyMining Green Energy Project ☀💨💪🔋

[OgNasty]

Hi OG,

Your thread is really inspiring! great stuff!

I wanted to ask to see if you could direct me in the right direction. Currently where I live I get different power rates depending on the time of day.

At night for 10 hours I get $0.06 per KWH. During the day I get $0.14 certain times and $0.08 other hours.

I wanted to research the way I could charge enough batteries during the night with Street power at the $.06 cent rate so I could then use the batteries during the time where highest rate is running.

Initially I would not think about adding solar since I want to charge during the night. In this case what technology would you recommend?

Initially I am shooting for 10KW for a few miners.

Cheers!

I’m in the midst of trying to take advantage of the same scenario. I decided to go with Elon Musk’s solution: https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

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[fanatic26]

Hey Nasty, I just have a general solar question if you dont mind. My father has a 32 panel solar setup running his off the grid house. He has had nothing but problems with his 20 lead acid batteries and it costs almost double what that powerwall costs to replace them. Would you recommend one of these as a replacement for a traditional battery setup? If not, do you know of any other battery setup that will last longer than these crap batteries hes been stuck with?

[OgNasty]

Hey Nasty, I just have a general solar question if you dont mind. My father has a 32 panel solar setup running his off the grid house. He has had nothing but problems with his 20 lead acid batteries and it costs almost double what that powerwall costs to replace them. Would you recommend one of these as a replacement for a traditional battery setup? If not, do you know of any other battery setup that will last longer than these crap batteries hes been stuck with?

As far as I am aware, the Tesla Powerwall is the best of the best.  There are cheaper methods if you're a DIY'er that are probably a lot more fun and rewarding.  Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk50IuWXg-c

[OgNasty]

I spoke with a representative from Tesla today and was told that they have submitted a plan to the electric company to allow for "the removal of the roadblock" holding back all battery projects from moving forward.  They plan to have final approval in 4-6 weeks and will update me at that time.

[icon73]

I spoke with a representative from Tesla today and was told that they have submitted a plan to the electric company to allow for "the removal of the roadblock" holding back all battery projects from moving forward.  They plan to have final approval in 4-6 weeks and will update me at that time.

I don't know where you are located, but if you are in california and you are on NEM1 or NEM2 I would be very careful about installing your powerwall.  The powerwall will change your "power plant" and will invalidate your NEM grandfather.  This could result in significant costs when drawing power from the grid.  If you are not in CA, and that is someplace in the thread I apologize.  I am in CA, and have solar and I am on NEM2.  My buddy recently installed a PW and it put him on NEM3 which carries a 7 cent cost per KW when drawing generated power out of the grid.  I was shocked. 

[OgNasty]

I spoke with a representative from Tesla today and was told that they have submitted a plan to the electric company to allow for "the removal of the roadblock" holding back all battery projects from moving forward.  They plan to have final approval in 4-6 weeks and will update me at that time.

I don't know where you are located, but if you are in california and you are on NEM1 or NEM2 I would be very careful about installing your powerwall.  The powerwall will change your "power plant" and will invalidate your NEM grandfather.  This could result in significant costs when drawing power from the grid.  If you are not in CA, and that is someplace in the thread I apologize.  I am in CA, and have solar and I am on NEM2.  My buddy recently installed a PW and it put him on NEM3 which carries a 7 cent cost per KW when drawing generated power out of the grid.  I was shocked.  

I don’t recall reading anything that said it were possible to invalidate my grandfathering. I’ll make sure to keep that in mind though. I’m in AZ. As you are well aware, nobody is more anal than California lawmakers, so hopefully AZ is a little more open to advancements.

[OgNasty]

Do you think it is possible to use the energy of water? How difficult would it be to build such station?

Possible, sure.  I don't have access to any natural moving bodies of water or I would do it.  The only thing I could realistically do is hook up a mini hydro electric generator to my main water line that would generate a small amount of electricity whenever my landscaping gets watered or I brush my teeth...  I may do this as a gimmick after the Powerwall gets installed if it's simple enough.  I expect it would only generate a few watts per day though.

[icon73]

I spoke with a representative from Tesla today and was told that they have submitted a plan to the electric company to allow for "the removal of the roadblock" holding back all battery projects from moving forward.  They plan to have final approval in 4-6 weeks and will update me at that time.

I don't know where you are located, but if you are in california and you are on NEM1 or NEM2 I would be very careful about installing your powerwall.  The powerwall will change your "power plant" and will invalidate your NEM grandfather.  This could result in significant costs when drawing power from the grid.  If you are not in CA, and that is someplace in the thread I apologize.  I am in CA, and have solar and I am on NEM2.  My buddy recently installed a PW and it put him on NEM3 which carries a 7 cent cost per KW when drawing generated power out of the grid.  I was shocked.  

I don’t recall reading anything that said it were possible to invalidate my grandfathering. I’ll make sure to keep that in mind though. I’m in AZ. As you are well aware, nobody is more anal than California lawmakers, so hopefully AZ is a little more open to advancements.

You may be safe in AZ.  I don't know the laws there.  As CA has moved through the different NEM rules with the PUC they have decided that if you make a material change to your approved plant that it will change the NEM to the newest and current NEM.  Each time CA updates the NEM, they make it a little worse for those of us who own solar.

[Kozlov]

@OGNasty

Great project, really interesting to track your progress and read about the technical aspects of larger scale solar operations.

I was wondering if you know anything about possibly repurposing solar heating panels to power a small miner or two? In the UK I believe we have restrictions on the storage of solar electricity, I think it has be converted 'live'.

Would solar heating panels generate enough to power a miner for a few hours a day?

[OgNasty]

@OGNasty

Great project, really interesting to track your progress and read about the technical aspects of larger scale solar operations.

I was wondering if you know anything about possibly repurposing solar heating panels to power a small miner or two? In the UK I believe we have restrictions on the storage of solar electricity, I think it has be converted 'live'.

Would solar heating panels generate enough to power a miner for a few hours a day?

The solar heating panels I have for my pool are nothing more than black pvc pipes. I don’t see how they could be repurposed to create energy.

[BelieveInBitcoin]

In the UK I believe we have restrictions on the storage of solar electricity, I think it has be converted 'live'.

There are no restrictions in the UK on storage of solar electricity. In fact, if you have solar panels you will get a payment for exporting the electricity to the grid even if you put it into your battery and use it to power your house. That's official.

This is the system I'm looking to get: http://info.fuelincluded.com/home-energy-storage

[OgNasty]

If you dont mind me asking how much did the alt power setup cost you ?

Once the battery is installed it will be somewhere around $40,000.

Which brings me to my good news of the day...

The Tesla Powerwall 2 has finally been approved by the electric company!

[OgNasty]

Tesla Powerwall site overview & installation have been scheduled for early March!

[silverfuture]

Tesla Powerwall site overview & installation have been scheduled for early March!

Just in time for some strong sunshine!

[naypalm]

Awesome! I'm hoping the kiosks start popping up at the Home Depot soon, I wouldn't mind having a Powerwall unit or two.

[OgNasty]

Awesome! I'm hoping the kiosks start popping up at the Home Depot soon, I wouldn't mind having a Powerwall unit or two.

Nice!  I wouldn't mind having 4 of them, as that's likely what would be needed to get this project off the grid.    Now when will Home Depot start selling immersion cooling tanks for data centers?   

[OgNasty]

I just finished the on site inspection with a representative from Tesla.  Verified the installation locations for the equipment and answered some of my questions.  I'm told it will likely be 2 months before all the inspections are completed and the unit gets switched on, but it should be installed and ready to go in one week!

[naypalm]

Glad to hear it is getting installed. This is very exciting news!

[OgNasty]

Glad to hear it is getting installed. This is very exciting news!

Indeed it is.  I'm told they're rolling out the software for energy arbitrage this month, so the timing is good.  However, I've also been told that I cannot accept a tax credit as a result of enabling the energy arbitrage feature (wasn't given a clear reason why), so while it would be in my personal best interests to take the large tax credit instead of enabling the energy arbitrage, that doesn't seem like it's in the best interests of NastyMining or the most fun.  Since $$$ isn't my goal here and fun is, I'm officially forgoing the tax credit for the opportunity to play with the energy arbitrage features. 

P.S. As a result of the heavy moderation of this thread due to all the 1-liner posts from newbies, I've disabled email alerts for this thread.  I'll check back on it every so often, but if you ask a question here and I don't respond within a reasonable time frame, feel free to shoot me a PM and bring your post to my attention.

[OgNasty]

The Powerwall 2 is installed and has passed QC inspection.  It may be several weeks before the city gives the OK to flip the switch to activate it, but I do have current access to the "brain" of the system.  It's a bit cloudy at the moment and I'm doing some laundry, but here's a cropped clip from the iOS App showing some Tesla goodness.