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Question: Oct. 5 Closing Price:
$0 - 5 (3.5%)
<$8,000 - 38 (27%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 16 (11.3%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 10 (7.1%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 13 (9.2%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 12 (8.5%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 10 (7.1%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 5 (3.5%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 2 (1.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 4 (2.8%)
>$12,000 - 17 (12.1%)
>$20,000 - 9 (6.4%)
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May 25, 2013, 09:04:22 AM
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Well, that sorta sucks. Looks like Liberty Reserve was shutdown today.

Costa Rican arrested in Spain for alleged financial crimes

Article seems a little iffy, but http://www.libertyreserve.com/ does appear to be down.



The obvious question now: what are LR users going to transact with instead?


And how many people had money sitting on LR. Seems like a fairly big deal. Without Dwolla, I'd imagine LR was a fairly big chunk of Gox deposits. Surprised no one is talking about this, they were down all day Friday. Maybe not that many people used LR.

Wow this is HUGE big shitz, LR is a gigantic washing machine with millions transiting, many exchange business that deals with LR also do bitcoin, like Aurumxchange. Expect big Losses due to this shutdown for whole digital currency community.

Well BTC is Monopoly now , heck i'm turning ubber bull, i'm holding btc for long, to hell with short term trading.


Well, the more these centralised money transfer things get shut down the better it is for Bitcoin. What we need long term is exchanges in every country that are properly licensed. I don't think it's a loss if we loose these quasi-money services like liberty reserve. Fiat->Bitcoin->Fiat->Bitcoin. Until there is only bitcoin left. :-)

I'm getting the impression from the level of creative input and discussion regarding p2p exchanges and fiat-to-digital methods that we are getting quite close to a combination of systems that could prove to be the silver bullet on that one.  In particular are an idea from fellowtraveler being provisionally called BMOT and one proposed solution to the fiat -> digital fiat without trust problem even has a 10BTC bounty for anyone who can find fault with it!  It is the brainchild of bytemaster to be found here, having come out of BTCLuke's hot Primer for a P2P Distributed Exchange thread.
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May 25, 2013, 09:45:22 AM
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Well, that sorta sucks. Looks like Liberty Reserve was shutdown today.

Costa Rican arrested in Spain for alleged financial crimes

Article seems a little iffy, but http://www.libertyreserve.com/ does appear to be down.



The obvious question now: what are LR users going to transact with instead?


And how many people had money sitting on LR. Seems like a fairly big deal. Without Dwolla, I'd imagine LR was a fairly big chunk of Gox deposits. Surprised no one is talking about this, they were down all day Friday. Maybe not that many people used LR.

Wow this is HUGE big shitz, LR is a gigantic washing machine with millions transiting, many exchange business that deals with LR also do bitcoin, like Aurumxchange. Expect big Losses due to this shutdown for whole digital currency community.

Well BTC is Monopoly now , heck i'm turning ubber bull, i'm holding btc for long, to hell with short term trading.


What do you mean, "BTC is Monopoly now"? Bitcoin is anything but a monopoly. I don't get it.

I think he was being Tongue-in-cheek. The other alternatives have been getting shut down because they are centralized, in part anyway.
He meant a monopoly because the choices are getting fewer and fewer, but not due to traditional monopolistic reasons.
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May 25, 2013, 09:50:32 AM
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Well, that sorta sucks. Looks like Liberty Reserve was shutdown today.

Costa Rican arrested in Spain for alleged financial crimes

Article seems a little iffy, but http://www.libertyreserve.com/ does appear to be down.



The obvious question now: what are LR users going to transact with instead?


And how many people had money sitting on LR. Seems like a fairly big deal. Without Dwolla, I'd imagine LR was a fairly big chunk of Gox deposits. Surprised no one is talking about this, they were down all day Friday. Maybe not that many people used LR.

Wow this is HUGE big shitz, LR is a gigantic washing machine with millions transiting, many exchange business that deals with LR also do bitcoin, like Aurumxchange. Expect big Losses due to this shutdown for whole digital currency community.

Well BTC is Monopoly now , heck i'm turning ubber bull, i'm holding btc for long, to hell with short term trading.


Well, the more these centralised money transfer things get shut down the better it is for Bitcoin. What we need long term is exchanges in every country that are properly licensed. I don't think it's a loss if we loose these quasi-money services like liberty reserve. Fiat->Bitcoin->Fiat->Bitcoin. Until there is only bitcoin left. :-)

I'm getting the impression from the level of creative input and discussion regarding p2p exchanges and fiat-to-digital methods that we are getting quite close to a combination of systems that could prove to be the silver bullet on that one.  In particular are an idea from fellowtraveler being provisionally called BMOT and one proposed solution to the fiat -> digital fiat without trust problem even has a 10BTC bounty for anyone who can find fault with it!  It is the brainchild of bytemaster to be found here, having come out of BTCLuke's hot Primer for a P2P Distributed Exchange thread.

Agreed, and this is the anti-fragile nature of the Bitcoin Environment at work. Smack it and it adapts. "Cut off" a part (e.g. Dwolla) and it adapts and becomes stronger. This is like the internet of a few years ago on steroids. Clearly BTC is the internet but it is layering a whole new type of technology down. Might actually be a gold or platinum bullet.  Wink

To eventually have a decentralized exchange of sorts would be a Godsend. Imagine a "smart" internet based, not centrally controlled, exchange that acts as perhaps a bank and or just exchange system... There we are for the long haul (until we no longer use money in its current state).
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May 25, 2013, 10:01:41 AM
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May 25, 2013, 10:15:47 AM
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I'm getting the impression from the level of creative input and discussion regarding p2p exchanges and fiat-to-digital methods that we are getting quite close to a combination of systems that could prove to be the silver bullet on that one.  In particular are an idea from fellowtraveler being provisionally called BMOT and one proposed solution to the fiat -> digital fiat without trust problem even has a 10BTC bounty for anyone who can find fault with it!  It is the brainchild of bytemaster to be found here, having come out of BTCLuke's hot Primer for a P2P Distributed Exchange thread.

Thanks for those links, thoughtfan. Good stuff.
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May 25, 2013, 11:01:47 AM
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May 25, 2013, 11:52:44 AM
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Another site reporting about Liberty Reserve.

Liberty Reserve Closed, Owners Get Arrested for Money Laundry
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May 25, 2013, 11:53:01 AM
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Well that was unexpected.

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May 25, 2013, 11:54:59 AM
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Weekend dip is a classic situation.

Anyhow, move on low volume.
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May 25, 2013, 11:55:13 AM
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How can one expect anything from an unpredictable market?
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May 25, 2013, 12:00:20 PM
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Well that was unexpected.


Not really. I sold all mine last night.
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May 25, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
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May 25, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
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Bumping down...

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May 25, 2013, 12:04:38 PM
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Well that was unexpected.


Not really. I sold all mine last night.

Same here. Long weekend in the USA, end of the month, things don't pick up until Tuesday.
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May 25, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
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price will probably go a little bit(127-128) more down during the weekend..  no big problem realy.. iz a   beartrap :-)    and lucky for me i have some bids to be filled so.. please keep on selling weakhands Smiley
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May 25, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
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Well that was unexpected.


Not really. I sold all mine last night.

Same here. Long weekend in the USA, end of the month, things don't pick up until Tuesday.

Long weekend in UK as well with a holiday on Monday.

I wonder if that means more trading or less as people aren't at work.

Also any incoming (to MtGox) bank wires should be processed on Monday in Japan as normal as it's not a holiday there.
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May 25, 2013, 12:18:34 PM
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Well that was unexpected.



Irony ?
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May 25, 2013, 12:22:28 PM
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Long weekend in UK as well with a holiday on Monday.

I wonder if that means more trading or less as people aren't at work.

Also any incoming (to MtGox) bank wires should be processed on Monday in Japan as normal as it's not a holiday there.

I've never liked weekends or holidays on the exchanges. I'm sure someone can go run the numbers to see if the weekends are actually worse, but it seems that way to me. I also don't like the end of the month, but I'm fairly sure someone disproved that.  Grin
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May 25, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
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Well, that sorta sucks. Looks like Liberty Reserve was shutdown today.

Costa Rican arrested in Spain for alleged financial crimes

Article seems a little iffy, but http://www.libertyreserve.com/ does appear to be down.



The obvious question now: what are LR users going to transact with instead?


And how many people had money sitting on LR. Seems like a fairly big deal. Without Dwolla, I'd imagine LR was a fairly big chunk of Gox deposits. Surprised no one is talking about this, they were down all day Friday. Maybe not that many people used LR.

Wow this is HUGE big shitz, LR is a gigantic washing machine with millions transiting, many exchange business that deals with LR also do bitcoin, like Aurumxchange. Expect big Losses due to this shutdown for whole digital currency community.

Well BTC is Monopoly now , heck i'm turning ubber bull, i'm holding btc for long, to hell with short term trading.


What do you mean, "BTC is Monopoly now"? Bitcoin is anything but a monopoly. I don't get it.
Sounds to me like he was referring to the boardgame 'Monopoly'.
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May 25, 2013, 12:25:38 PM
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Well that was unexpected.



Irony ?

more like stupidity
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