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July 02, 2014, 03:08:32 PM

Nah, they'll get all fit and healthy from having to push wheelbarrows full of cash around Wink

Haha, on this theory US really needs an induced financial crisis so their population gets healthier Cheesy
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July 02, 2014, 03:23:01 PM

This. I'm actually planning on buying a few bitcoins just so I can short them and buy them back cheaper. Repeat, get rich.

You will be.... TAIL RISK MAN!
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July 02, 2014, 03:26:08 PM

This. I'm actually planning on buying a few bitcoins just so I can short them and buy them back cheaper. Repeat, get rich.

You will be.... TAIL RISK MAN!

Ah, but there's nothing standard about my deviations.
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I think that there are a lot of fools who dream of riches but who aren't ready to do any hard work for it.

The labor theory of value has been debunked for a long time.

I agree that labour theory of value had it's holes, but it wasn't all wrong.
It was argued that things should have value based on the work that has been spent on producing it. What was left out was the perspective of the consumers and how high they value a specific product. If someone spends 100hours to produce a pile of crap, then should he be rewarded for these hours? The obvious answer is no.

There is a catch though. If you leave out labour entirely, then it opens a big gate for deception. Then those will be rewarded who will deceive the consumer into believing that even a pile of crap has value. We can see this in the modern western world, where advertisement is spiralling out of control more and more every day. Advertisement should be used to inform the consumer, not to deceive the consumer, but the informative part has shrank into oblivion. Nowadays advertisement is openly deceiving the consumer and everyone involved get highly rewarded for that.
So, I think that the truth is somewhere in the middle. But in the context of my previous post, one truth remains.
If you want to generate wealth, then you have to either 1) work hard 2) be talented 3) deceive others
Now, with an honest heart, do you think that the majority of the people in this sub-forum are either working hard or being talented for the reward they think they are entitled for?

Just like bitcoin is advertised as an practical tool of finance, but only the numb minded ones get deceived by that rhetoric. "The cab drivers and grocery clerks" who have dreams of easy riches.
This deception is done to invite new members, who would increase the wealth of the older members. So, I really can't see much difference between bitcoin and a pyramid scheme. Can you? If so, then could you explain it?
A practical tool of finance, in a form of an currency, would be something that would be useless as an speculative investment. You could invest in the framework surrounding that currency, but the unit value should stay stable, and therefore useless for speculation. "The cab drivers and grocery clerks" wouldn't like that, because this would need better knowledge then to buy and hodl. Then you would have to have knowledge and experience on how an actual business works. But how many of those "choo choo" folks have ran their own business in the field of finance?
When the unit value is attractive for investments, then it just isn't possible to implement an stability mechanism to the unit value of the currency. And stability is THE thing needed for a quality currency. If you compare two different fiat's, then the main factor to consider is stability. With a stable currency, it's possible to make proper planning and predictions, which in turn are the foundation of an strong economy.
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July 02, 2014, 03:55:56 PM

We're again flirting with this level but will we be able to break through resistance this time.........

I think so too.
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July 02, 2014, 03:58:42 PM

Voted $650 think we'll need to wait until tomorrow
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July 02, 2014, 04:00:30 PM

1W MACD is closing green for the first time since January 29th
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July 02, 2014, 04:00:36 PM


Explanation
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July 02, 2014, 04:08:44 PM

Voted $650 think we'll need to wait until tomorrow

We are facing still stiff resistance. We can't do much just waiting for upwards movement.
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July 02, 2014, 04:12:07 PM

1W MACD is closing green for the first time since January 29th

Anyone know what price it would take for it to go into the red?
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July 02, 2014, 04:13:38 PM

So, I think that the truth is somewhere in the middle. But in the context of my previous post, one truth remains.
If you want to generate wealth, then you have to either 1) work hard 2) be talented 3) deceive others

You miss out "get lucky" but more importantly "Use your resources wisely" (which dovetails a little with the "Be talented").

In truth, many here used their knowledge of the arts to recognize an idea (rightly or wrongly) as something with a huge potential and invested some of their capital, obtained through other means, to jump on board (in the process, rewarding those who had put in the 1) and 2) from above).
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July 02, 2014, 04:13:47 PM

1W MACD is closing green for the first time since January 29th

Anyone know what price it would take for it to go into the red?

I think 585-590.

Last week we held green at that level but lost it when we dropped down to 550-570
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July 02, 2014, 04:24:04 PM

>800 next week I guarantee it, not kidding.
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July 02, 2014, 04:26:30 PM

>800 next week I guarantee it, not kidding.

You are overestimating, I don't think it will touch 800 mark next week first we need to cross 700 with huge volume then we can say we are bullish and rally will prolong to 800 or above.
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July 02, 2014, 04:26:45 PM


I think that there are a lot of fools who dream of riches but who aren't ready to do any hard work for it.

what about those of us that work damn hard at our jobs in order to earn as much money as we can to then buy bitcoin. I work as much overtime as i am offered, and save as hard as i can so i can buy bitcoin, and i would imagine i am not alone. i do not dream of riches - i just feel alot safer having my holdings in BTC which i control rather than in a bank which i do not. If i am making more than the current pittance offered by interest on savings accounts then i am even happier.
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July 02, 2014, 04:31:58 PM

>800 next week I guarantee it, not kidding.

Do I get 1,000,000 Satoshis if you are wrong? Cheesy
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July 02, 2014, 04:34:47 PM

>800 next week I guarantee it, not kidding.

Do I get 1,000,000 Satoshis if you are wrong? Cheesy

lol, atleast ask 1 BTC if he gone wrong, 1M satoshi is really very low.
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July 02, 2014, 04:38:17 PM

>800 next week I guarantee it, not kidding.

Do I get 1,000,000 Satoshis if you are wrong? Cheesy

lol, atleast ask 1 BTC if he gone wrong, 1M satoshi is really very low.

yes sure wtv, 110% money back guarantee!

BUY BUY BUY!

 Cheesy
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July 02, 2014, 04:42:08 PM

no but i seriously think >800 next week.

and if you're not seeing it, you must be blind.

I dont like to do too much explaining,  this has been a friendly warning
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July 02, 2014, 04:50:39 PM

Regarding the poll: when does the daily candle close? GMT?
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