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April 17, 2015, 03:40:17 PM

Why are many of you suddenly concerned about a long squeeze?

They sold and are lending $ to bulls ( in denial Huh) at tempting rates , now worrying about their funds!  Cheesy
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April 17, 2015, 03:41:46 PM
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Why are many of you suddenly concerned about a long squeeze?
I've been concerned about it for a while. There are 25 million dollars of longs on Bitfinex. That's over 100 thousand bitcoins that need to be sold at the current price to close them. There does not seem to be bids for that many coins on all the exchanges combined at any price. And if the price goes lower, more coins need to be sold.

The other posters are paid by NotLambChop to talk about this. Cheesy

edit: Some of those longs might be in altcoins, I guess, but if even half of them are in bitcoins, it still seems excessive to me.
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April 17, 2015, 03:47:45 PM
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i feel something big is coming and mega-pump seems imminent, news are talking bitcoin again http://www.cnbc.com/id/102594745

I share your feeling!

I have a bold prediction that something BIG is happening on monday. And I am (semi) ready to take the shitstorm if I'm wrong monday evening. It's a gut feeling based on a small list of facts:

1. President of USA candidate Rand Paul is attending on a bitcoin (or blockchain, ha ha) event on sunday. These candidates tend to time their PR campaigns with very good inside information.

2. "Wall Street enters bitcoin" is so f*cking ripe now.

    2A: COIN ETF on NASDAQ waiting for two years for approval with a experienced and competent woman running the process ("Spider Woman" Kathleen Moriarty).

    2B: GBTC with investment bank bidders hanging for weeks.

    2C: Facetwins (again) having the logistics ready months ago for Gemini bitcoin exchange, but waiting for BitLicense.

    2D: NYDFS Expects Final BitLicense 'Very Soon'.

    2E: The evil witch Blythe Masters (her "credit swap" invention kicked a lot of good americans out of their homes and into the trailer park) has joined bitcoin trading platform Digital Assets Holdings LLC as chief executive.

    2F: Headline: "Nasdaq Trading Technology to Power Bitcoin Marketplace Noble" (To drunk to explain in my own words).

    2G: Headline: "SecondMarket's Bitcoin Desk Relaunches as Genesis Trading" (Again, drunk to explain in my own words).

We all know that good news is bad for bitcoin price. But these news are all related to a greedy need for bitcoin (just in case it actually becomes important!) and a real demand you will see on the exchanges.

Long story short: I'm really becomming a Vodka Viking now, and I'm proud of coining the expression "Facetwins"! (Better than "Winklevii" or "Facebook Twins", ha ha.)

SKÅL!
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April 17, 2015, 04:03:19 PM

Funny you guys have the same gut feeling. I had a dream last night about the price continuously rising to no end, I woke up mid sleep to check the price to see if it was real  Cheesy we'll see what happens Monday...
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April 17, 2015, 04:04:51 PM

i feel something big is coming and mega-pump seems imminent, news are talking bitcoin again http://www.cnbc.com/id/102594745

I share your feeling! I have a bold prediction that something BIG is happening on monday. And I am (semi) ready to take the shitstorm if I'm wrong monday evening. It's a gut feeling based on a small list of facts.
1: President of USA candidate Rand Paul is attending on a bitcoin (or blockchain ha ha) event on sunday. These candidates tend to time their PR campaigns with very good inside information.
2. "Wall Street enters bitcoin" is so f*cking ripe now.
2A: COIN ETF on NASDAQ waiting for two years for approval with a experienced and competent woman running the process ("Spider Woman" Kathleen Moriarty)
2B: GBTC with bidders hanging for weeks
2C: Facetwins (again) having the logistics ready weeks ago for Gemini bitcoin exchange, but waiting for BitLicense.

Hope you're right bro.
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April 17, 2015, 04:16:50 PM

We've had fairly good volume on finex for the last three days, while staying within the 220 range. Not much, but I have hope.
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April 17, 2015, 04:20:32 PM

i feel something big is coming and mega-pump seems imminent, news are talking bitcoin again http://www.cnbc.com/id/102594745

I share your feeling! I have a bold prediction that something BIG is happening on monday. And I am (semi) ready to take the shitstorm if I'm wrong monday evening. It's a gut feeling based on a small list of facts.
1: President of USA candidate Rand Paul is attending on a bitcoin (or blockchain ha ha) event on sunday. These candidates tend to time their PR campaigns with very good inside information.
2. "Wall Street enters bitcoin" is so f*cking ripe now.
2A: COIN ETF on NASDAQ waiting for two years for approval with a experienced and competent woman running the process ("Spider Woman" Kathleen Moriarty)
2B: GBTC with bidders hanging for weeks
2C: Facetwins (again) having the logistics ready weeks ago for Gemini bitcoin exchange, but waiting for BitLicense.

yes thats correct and now news are all over bitcoin again...
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April 17, 2015, 04:34:22 PM

Sorry for reposting, but I pre-posted while editing (And I'm drunk.) Here it is:

i feel something big is coming and mega-pump seems imminent, news are talking bitcoin again http://www.cnbc.com/id/102594745

I share your feeling!

I have a bold prediction that something BIG is happening on monday. And I am (semi) ready to take the shitstorm if I'm wrong monday evening. It's a gut feeling based on a small list of facts:

1. President of USA candidate Rand Paul is attending on a bitcoin (or blockchain, ha ha) event on sunday. These candidates tend to time their PR campaigns with very good inside information.

2. "Wall Street enters bitcoin" is so f*cking ripe now.

    2A: COIN ETF on NASDAQ waiting for two years for approval with a experienced and competent woman running the process ("Spider Woman" Kathleen Moriarty).

    2B: GBTC with investment bank bidders hanging for weeks.

    2C: Facetwins (again) having the logistics ready months ago for Gemini bitcoin exchange, but waiting for BitLicense.

    2D: NYDFS Expects Final BitLicense 'Very Soon'.

    2E: The evil witch Blythe Masters (her "credit swap" invention kicked a lot of good americans out of their homes and into the trailer park) has joined bitcoin trading platform Digital Assets Holdings LLC as chief executive.

    2F: Headline: "Nasdaq Trading Technology to Power Bitcoin Marketplace Noble" (To drunk to explain in my own words).

    2G: Headline: "SecondMarket's Bitcoin Desk Relaunches as Genesis Trading" (Again, drunk to explain in my own words).

We all know that good news is bad for bitcoin price. But these news are all related to a greedy need for bitcoin (just in case it actually becomes important!) and a real demand you will see on the exchanges.

Long story short: I'm really becomming a Vodka Viking now, and I'm proud of coining the expression "Facetwins"! (Better than "Winklevii" or "Facebook Twins", ha ha.)

SKÅL!
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April 17, 2015, 04:53:06 PM

Why is Bitfinex so bearish compared to others?


That. BTC-E is normally $5-10 under finex.
It's been almost $2 between Huobi and Bitfinex for a couple of days. I have been thinking for a while about starting arbitrage trading. I don't believe in TA (Asstrology) and I can't predict the future. Also, it's easy and cheap to move BTC between exchanges (but not other currencies, could be a disadvantage). I have never traded on an exchange before (I just bought my bitcoins from a guy), yet I watch Bitcoinwisdom and am capable of coding my own user interface with the exchanges APIs. I don't want to make a "bot" (even if I actually could, given time and money), but more like a button I can press when two exchanges are in disharmony (One sell, one buy, same amount of BTC).

My question is: Do anybody in this thread have experience with arbitrage trading? Are the margins too small?

There it is. Now, time for "FRIDAY NIGHT VODKA PARTY ALONE IN A TWO ROOM FLAT IN THE SUBURBS OF OSLO"!!! Whoohoooooo!   Undecided

Just to add to the question. Would it make sense to use litecoin to transfer money from one exchange to another without using fiat?


Arguably yes, the possibility exists of the funds being accepted and confirmed faster w/ ltc than btc. However on the few occasions I've tried with this, the LTC transfers have been sufficiently delayed for whatever reason close the window on any said opportunity. Likewise not all exchanges accept LTC and offer that arbitrage opportunity. Theoretically it makes a lot of sense and I've heard (as I'm sure we all have) of users successfully rotating through such a system for small profits.

Thanks! Would be interesting to try BTC arbitrage between BTC-E and huobi/okcoin/finex using LTC. I'll just have to sit down and look at the fees.
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April 17, 2015, 04:58:04 PM

Why is Bitfinex so bearish compared to others?


That. BTC-E is normally $5-10 under finex.
It's been almost $2 between Huobi and Bitfinex for a couple of days. I have been thinking for a while about starting arbitrage trading. I don't believe in TA (Asstrology) and I can't predict the future. Also, it's easy and cheap to move BTC between exchanges (but not other currencies, could be a disadvantage). I have never traded on an exchange before (I just bought my bitcoins from a guy), yet I watch Bitcoinwisdom and am capable of coding my own user interface with the exchanges APIs. I don't want to make a "bot" (even if I actually could, given time and money), but more like a button I can press when two exchanges are in disharmony (One sell, one buy, same amount of BTC).

My question is: Do anybody in this thread have experience with arbitrage trading? Are the margins too small?

There it is. Now, time for "FRIDAY NIGHT VODKA PARTY ALONE IN A TWO ROOM FLAT IN THE SUBURBS OF OSLO"!!! Whoohoooooo!   Undecided

Just to add to the question. Would it make sense to use litecoin to transfer money from one exchange to another without using fiat?


Arguably yes, the possibility exists of the funds being accepted and confirmed faster w/ ltc than btc. However on the few occasions I've tried with this, the LTC transfers have been sufficiently delayed for whatever reason close the window on any said opportunity. Likewise not all exchanges accept LTC and offer that arbitrage opportunity. Theoretically it makes a lot of sense and I've heard (as I'm sure we all have) of users successfully rotating through such a system for small profits.

Thanks! Would be interesting to try BTC arbitrage between BTC-E and huobi/okcoin/finex using LTC. I'll just have to sit down and look at the fees.
Hey slimboy! Have you done arbitrage trading before?
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April 17, 2015, 05:04:22 PM

Why is Bitfinex so bearish compared to others?


That. BTC-E is normally $5-10 under finex.
It's been almost $2 between Huobi and Bitfinex for a couple of days. I have been thinking for a while about starting arbitrage trading. I don't believe in TA (Asstrology) and I can't predict the future. Also, it's easy and cheap to move BTC between exchanges (but not other currencies, could be a disadvantage). I have never traded on an exchange before (I just bought my bitcoins from a guy), yet I watch Bitcoinwisdom and am capable of coding my own user interface with the exchanges APIs. I don't want to make a "bot" (even if I actually could, given time and money), but more like a button I can press when two exchanges are in disharmony (One sell, one buy, same amount of BTC).

My question is: Do anybody in this thread have experience with arbitrage trading? Are the margins too small?

There it is. Now, time for "FRIDAY NIGHT VODKA PARTY ALONE IN A TWO ROOM FLAT IN THE SUBURBS OF OSLO"!!! Whoohoooooo!   Undecided

Just to add to the question. Would it make sense to use litecoin to transfer money from one exchange to another without using fiat?


Arguably yes, the possibility exists of the funds being accepted and confirmed faster w/ ltc than btc. However on the few occasions I've tried with this, the LTC transfers have been sufficiently delayed for whatever reason close the window on any said opportunity. Likewise not all exchanges accept LTC and offer that arbitrage opportunity. Theoretically it makes a lot of sense and I've heard (as I'm sure we all have) of users successfully rotating through such a system for small profits.

Thanks! Would be interesting to try BTC arbitrage between BTC-E and huobi/okcoin/finex using LTC. I'll just have to sit down and look at the fees.
Hey slimboy! Have you done arbitrage trading before?
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Nope, but I have thought about it. If it's done right it can be a steady stream of income. Sometimes you just have to try.
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April 17, 2015, 05:25:29 PM

hello poor bitcoin fuckers.

still fighting this downtrend?

just sit tight and relax.
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April 17, 2015, 05:28:51 PM

hello poor bitcoin fuckers.

still fighting this downtrend?

just sit tight and relax.

Are you still short?
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April 17, 2015, 05:30:32 PM

hello poor bitcoin fuckers.

still fighting this downtrend?

just sit tight and relax.

Desperate for short term small profits are you?

True investors wait to receive their riches.
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just sit tight and relax.

Most sensible thing you have said on here!
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April 17, 2015, 05:31:40 PM

hello poor bitcoin fuckers.

still fighting this downtrend?

just sit tight and relax.

Desperate for short term small profits are you?

True investors wait to receive their riches.

True traders make lots of money often
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April 17, 2015, 05:39:09 PM

Why is Bitfinex so bearish compared to others?


That. BTC-E is normally $5-10 under finex.
It's been almost $2 between Huobi and Bitfinex for a couple of days. I have been thinking for a while about starting arbitrage trading. I don't believe in TA (Asstrology) and I can't predict the future. Also, it's easy and cheap to move BTC between exchanges (but not other currencies, could be a disadvantage). I have never traded on an exchange before (I just bought my bitcoins from a guy), yet I watch Bitcoinwisdom and am capable of coding my own user interface with the exchanges APIs. I don't want to make a "bot" (even if I actually could, given time and money), but more like a button I can press when two exchanges are in disharmony (One sell, one buy, same amount of BTC).

My question is: Do anybody in this thread have experience with arbitrage trading? Are the margins too small?

There it is. Now, time for "FRIDAY NIGHT VODKA PARTY ALONE IN A TWO ROOM FLAT IN THE SUBURBS OF OSLO"!!! Whoohoooooo!   Undecided

Just to add to the question. Would it make sense to use litecoin to transfer money from one exchange to another without using fiat?


Arguably yes, the possibility exists of the funds being accepted and confirmed faster w/ ltc than btc. However on the few occasions I've tried with this, the LTC transfers have been sufficiently delayed for whatever reason close the window on any said opportunity. Likewise not all exchanges accept LTC and offer that arbitrage opportunity. Theoretically it makes a lot of sense and I've heard (as I'm sure we all have) of users successfully rotating through such a system for small profits.

Thanks! Would be interesting to try BTC arbitrage between BTC-E and huobi/okcoin/finex using LTC. I'll just have to sit down and look at the fees.
Hey slimboy! Have you done arbitrage trading before?
EDIT: Not sarcastic

Nope, but I have thought about it. If it's done right it can be a steady stream of income. Sometimes you just have to try.


Yes, and I'm thinking about it too. As I don't trust TA and do not know the short time future, the only way for me to daytrade, is to do arbitrage. It doesn't depend on quick transfers of BTC (or LiteCoin) from A to B. Just cheap transfers. I'm not talking about megafast robotic trading. Just making two trades simultaniously on two different exchanges at the right moment. (Seriously, between Huobi and Bitfinex, there can be a gap of $1.50 per bitcoin for many hours, even days).

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April 17, 2015, 05:41:01 PM

What happens to Bitfinex if the long squeeze comes and the bids get wiped? Will the dollar lenders lose their money if the longs are unable to close?
I certainly hope so, otherwise why would they get paid 30% if there was no risk involved ?
It would be assuring for everyone with any money on Bitfinex to know what their policy is in this situation. They could haircut everyone, including exchange accounts, or go gox for all I know.

Dont be silly.

It was silly once thinking about mtgox blowing up and all their customers losing fucking everything. Not to mention this is exactly what happened to bitcoinica. (Exchange in the red because of laggy liquidations.)
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