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June 16, 2017, 04:36:05 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

It's starting to look like yesterday's HF panic was the bottom. It's already back up battling for $2500... currently $2485USD (Bitcoinaverage) after briefly hitting $2525.

Without the Bitmain horseshit, $2500 probably would have been the bottom. Instead we got an extra good buying opportunity

Hopefully the slow grind back up will continue.
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I see there's a little discussion about my plans for the inevitable taxes on my Bitcoin earnings, but I have to rush out to an appointment. I'll comment later.

Consider this option.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1963054.0
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June 16, 2017, 05:18:53 PM

They're also trying to make it hard to cash out in to a house in the UK http://www.transparency.org.uk/unexplained-wealth-orders-a-brief-guide/
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June 16, 2017, 05:23:24 PM

They're also trying to make it hard to cash out in to a house in the UK http://www.transparency.org.uk/unexplained-wealth-orders-a-brief-guide/
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It's not exactly hard. Show them your exchange buys or mining records. Show them the sale. Dig out some old private keys if necessary. Pay yer tax. Away you go.

That's not to say your bank won't have kittens anyway but you're not doing anything wrong. You're cashing in profits on something you own just as you would with shares or a classic car. Just dig out some proof of ownership.

The actual law won't treat crypto any differently than anything else. Banks might be a different matter.
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June 16, 2017, 05:31:15 PM

Any good news  ?
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June 16, 2017, 05:57:19 PM

Any good news  ?

Segwit2x compatibility with Bip 148 is becoming a reality. Pools are already starting to announce support.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6hmof7/an_attempt_at_explaining_segwit2x_and_bip_148/

https://twitter.com/excellion/status/875767027784273920



https://twitter.com/Bixincom/status/875760525757399040


ViaBTC announced too. People in separate camps are still so dug in that news is developing slowly. Just as the Bitmain announcement made some UASF folks freak out (despite it being seen as good news by others in that camp), this information will take some time to emerge and fully sink in. It seems the tide is turning here. For the better.


I will say this. A lot of longs are being taken out right now.
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June 16, 2017, 06:03:50 PM

Will we see €4000 this Dear bitches Cheesy
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June 16, 2017, 06:16:28 PM

INCOMING!

PREPARE FOR THE DUMP
Im preparing for the dump on the moon

Fuck, the dump came later than i expected and bought in too high..

INCOMING!

PREPARE FOR THE PUMP

Bitmain shorted your money, assholes..
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June 16, 2017, 06:52:24 PM

Any good news  ?

Segwit2x compatibility with Bip 148 is becoming a reality. Pools are already starting to announce support.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6hmof7/an_attempt_at_explaining_segwit2x_and_bip_148/

https://twitter.com/excellion/status/875767027784273920



https://twitter.com/Bixincom/status/875760525757399040


ViaBTC announced too. People in separate camps are still so dug in that news is developing slowly. Just as the Bitmain announcement made some UASF folks freak out (despite it being seen as good news by others in that camp), this information will take some time to emerge and fully sink in. It seems the tide is turning here. For the better.


I will say this. A lot of longs are being taken out right now.

Yeah this is indeed some great news!
We will get SegWit as wished, without any modifications, and the HF stuff will come later.
However does anybody here if it really will kill ASICBOOST now?
I'm not that deep into the technical stuff and some opinions seems to differ here.
Antpool and Bitmain will probably the last ones to signal. But I'm sure they will do.
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Last edit: June 16, 2017, 07:12:41 PM by STT

Reading the ETH dev's AMA he relates to his own coins split and says any solution at all would be a positive after.   Obviously the correct fork being able to then carry on, seems fair logic I guess but disruptive

Kraken shows itself as past the downtrend of the last 42 hours.   As always I'm more confident when a previous trend is confirmed, usually that means down and recovery from there as an echo so sideways maybe around 2050 from here is positive.
Overhead looking at a reaction to $2600 and 18195 CNY for direction.
With this recent retraction upwards, on a daily candle thats holding the trend since April which is bullish longer term

Kraken didnt confirm the push past downtrend before rising.  Only short term line but worth noting.    On bitstamp I drew in downtrend since ATH June 12th and we now match the lower highers since then also 2470 I think is a good line of previous low and highs or a possible ceiling.
   So I'll switch to say negative short term while we work out prices in this area, sideways can be positive relatively and that might be how it plays out.    If it just carries on without hesitation here I guess I was wrong but often the charts for btc match previous prices quite neatly
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June 16, 2017, 07:48:31 PM

Its breaking up through 2450 resistance on finex finaly Smiley

interesting that btc-e and bitstamp didnt get past res yet
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June 16, 2017, 07:59:09 PM

stamp breaking up as second, while btc-e was going lower.. wtf?  Huh
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June 16, 2017, 08:12:41 PM




guys, we are getting segwit!  

are we rich yet??  Huh




How?

When?

If true, that sounds GREAT!!!!!!!


I am citeeeeeeeeeee!
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June 16, 2017, 08:37:40 PM

Wow good news

so down we go ?

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June 16, 2017, 09:23:31 PM

Any good news  ?

Segwit2x compatibility with Bip 148 is becoming a reality. Pools are already starting to announce support.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6hmof7/an_attempt_at_explaining_segwit2x_and_bip_148/

https://twitter.com/excellion/status/875767027784273920



https://twitter.com/Bixincom/status/875760525757399040


ViaBTC announced too. People in separate camps are still so dug in that news is developing slowly. Just as the Bitmain announcement made some UASF folks freak out (despite it being seen as good news by others in that camp), this information will take some time to emerge and fully sink in. It seems the tide is turning here. For the better.


I will say this. A lot of longs are being taken out right now.

Yeah this is indeed some great news!
We will get SegWit as wished, without any modifications, and the HF stuff will come later.
However does anybody here if it really will kill ASICBOOST now?
I'm not that deep into the technical stuff and some opinions seems to differ here.
Antpool and Bitmain will probably the last ones to signal. But I'm sure they will do.


Who cares about ASICBOOST? As long as Segwit is implemented and the scalling issue is closed Bitcoin will skyrocket. If Bitmain keeps having an advantage over other miners by using ASICBOOST is mainly a miner's problem. I am only against ASICBOOST in that it has been the reason for blocking progress on Bitcoin. Other than that I don't really care.
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June 16, 2017, 09:32:49 PM

So I've decided to port myself into the Ethereum public chain as an ERC20 token.. Thoughts on this?

Aren't you just a little bit worried that your bid for the immortality of your consciousness will backfire when Ethereum gets strangled by the failure of their sharding mechanism?
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June 16, 2017, 09:34:53 PM

They're also trying to make it hard to cash out in to a house in the UK http://www.transparency.org.uk/unexplained-wealth-orders-a-brief-guide/
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It's not exactly hard. Show them your exchange buys or mining records. Show them the sale. Dig out some old private keys if necessary. Pay yer tax. Away you go.

That's not to say your bank won't have kittens anyway but you're not doing anything wrong. You're cashing in profits on something you own just as you would with shares or a classic car. Just dig out some proof of ownership.

The actual law won't treat crypto any differently than anything else. Banks might be a different matter.

Yep. But they were talking about declaring that one of the last purchased BTC (at a much higher buying price) is the one being sold. That completely ignores FIFO (First In First Out) that I supposse is a standard on most western countries.

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June 16, 2017, 09:46:09 PM

But one thing I don't understand: how can the Powers That Be (central banks, GSachs etc) keep the price low if they have to continually buy? Dump, dump dump... what do they do when the ammo's over? Buy again at a presumably higher price? Every single btc that gets bought by someone else at those lower prices will eventually push the actual rebuying price higher. Or is something escaping me?

Oh oh. Now you dunnit. You just asked the question that always shuts 'em up.
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June 16, 2017, 09:48:33 PM

Yep. But they were talking about declaring that one of the last purchased BTC (at a much higher buying price) is the one being sold. That completely ignores FIFO (First In First Out) that I supposse is a standard on most western countries.

All my bitcoins were purchased about one month ago. I can show you records. I bought it from a guy in the corner of some street, I don't know where, and I can't find him anymore, but here it is in the block explorer. That's my very first one. The next one is a few days later. See, here. (pointing to a print out of blockchain.info or any other block explorer and the paper wallet in question.)

I bought bitcoins because I saw it on CNN and CNBC and Fox News last month.
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So I've decided to port myself into the Ethereum public chain as an ERC20 token.. Thoughts on this?

Aren't you just a little bit worried that your bid for the immortality of your consciousness will backfire when Ethereum gets strangled by the failure of their sharding mechanism?

Why store my whole consciousness in a full node when I can store pieces of my consciousness in _all_ the nodes?

 Cool

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June 16, 2017, 10:23:20 PM

But one thing I don't understand: how can the Powers That Be (central banks, GSachs etc) keep the price low if they have to continually buy? Dump, dump dump... what do they do when the ammo's over? Buy again at a presumably higher price? Every single btc that gets bought by someone else at those lower prices will eventually push the actual rebuying price higher. Or is something escaping me?

Oh oh. Now you dunnit. You just asked the question that always shuts 'em up.

I guess that having money printers they could buy-> short with leverage -> buy back (possibly lower, but not necessarily: they could play at a loss forever).
and generating panic is another leverage when shorting.
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