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This point needs to be emphasised, there is a world of difference between most of these ICOs and using blockchain tech to tokenise conventional securities like debt or equity. Most ICOs are selling imaginary vapourware, with no direct ownership of the company or idea the ICO proposes, tokenising the equity of a company moves ownership of that equity onto a ledger (distributed or decentralised) which enables T0 transactions and reduces counterparty risk.

That's something I would really like to know the details. Let's see if I got it right:

- SOme guys fund a corporate, so they are the only partners and probably they just invest a very little amount of money.
- Then, that company issues some tokens. Those tokens are basically free for them to issue, except for salaries, marketing, etc etc...
- NOw let's supposse they obtain 10 million dollas for those tokens.
- At the end of fiscal year, those 10 million dollars are almost pure profit (minus expenses) and they need to pay taxes on it.
- I mean, even if they do "invest" those millions onto any other asset (ie: real state), at the end of the year all that is seen as profit as it is a HUGE LOT OF MONEY that wasn't invested by the partners in their initial capital. So, again, its profit and needs to pay taxes on it.

Am I correct on this?


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June 19, 2017, 08:04:23 AM

Any ideas why the exchanges are speculating a drop to 1723 in the short term? http://www.bitcoinforecast.com
Although this is not always correct, bitstamp nailed the most recent drop within a few bucks.  

What a bunch of fucktards having an anti-trump disclaimer on their site.  The label has the typical "trump be raycist" statement, but all the word racist means nowadays is white people that refuse to be cuckolds for brown people.

No, racism has not narrowed itself down to fit your narrative of it.

Honestly, I respect your trading posts. I think they are well written and show insight. But whatever politics you have, you would never trade them -  and your skin color -  for being a black person getting stopped by a white cop. Would you.

The world is a place with lots of incompatible people, religions, and cultures.  There is no purpose in practicing Marxism and trying to force them all together so they all kill each other.  Black leaders in the past like Malcom X and Marcus Garvey knew this, that's why they advocated "Pan-Africanism", which essentially means forming a nation state in Africa with blacks only run by blacks because that's the only way you will have any type of self determination.

If you click the wikipedia link of what this is, it's essentially black naziism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Africanism

Replace the word "black" with "white" in any of those sentences and suddenly people would have heart palpatations claiming "omg dat be raycist!", but leave the word black there and it's perfectly fine and great!  This is called a double standard, promoting and allowing nationalism for other races while attempting to demonize whites who do the same thing.  White people are no longer putting up with garbage like this of letting Jewish Marxists who control the media tell us how we can act or think.  Their propaganda is now 100% dead and powerless.

It's well known that any nation without an ethnocentric majority collapses.  This is why nations like China and Japan still exist after hundreds or thousands of years, because it's 99% asian people.  Diversity is not "strength"; diversity is weakness and conflict.  The only reason the jews running the media push this garbage is because the history of their existence is moving into a foreign country, forming a state within a state to the detriment of the native inhabitants, practicing insane usury on them, then being expelled from the  country.  This is why they've been kicked out of countries over 100 times now.  It's not other people's fault, it's their own fault.

This is why Europe is being flooded with 3rd worlders right now - a divide and conquer strategy.  Any homogeneous nation on a long enough timeline will always expel or kill the usury banking parasites that infect them.  If you flood the country with a bunch of different warring factions, it's more difficult for anyone to come together for common interests to fix anything or get rid of them.  Those muslims in Europe are being weaponized by the Jews to try and destabilize nations on purpose.  Just like how in America, Jews try to weaponize minorities to fight against whites for them.

Guess who owns all the violent, anti-white rap labels?

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml

I hate to break it to you, but there's only 3 real powers in this world right now:  whites, jews, and asians.  Everyone else is just some type of pawn or insignificant bystander while the murderous death cult known as international zionism actively plots against everyone else.
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June 19, 2017, 09:29:57 AM

Yes, you need an argument. Regardless of your opinion on CSW, his points stand on their own. And it's not like this is some new oddball claim he is discussing. It is an aspect of SegWit that we have known since inception, bot for some reason never gets discussed.

Never? It's one of the standard arguments that is being trotted out again. Ver/Wu/Wright have some sort of onholy alliance where they recycle the same tired old stuff over and over again. But you mostly see it on Twitter and Reddit where social media presence companies can work their magic.

However, once SegWit activates, the attack surface of a 51% attack takes on a new aspect. If a miner (or a cartel thereof) accumulates 51% of the hashrate, they are able to steal the funds of others.

This is true of all anyone-can-spend softforks. It is true that it is a risk, but this risk is already there with p2sh. And I think pretty much all the big exchanges use that for their wallets, so a successful attack would be a big deal.

When you actually look at the attack, it's kind of hard in practice. It's doubtful that 51% would be enough to sustain it given the variance of mining. But it is certainly possible. It's one of the risks that Bitcoin lives with. The standard six confirmations already go a very long way into mitigating the whole range of possible hashpower majority attacks.
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June 19, 2017, 11:11:13 AM

UAHF ICO Proposal (Draft)

https://twitter.com/sonmdevelopment/status/876265086146498561
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June 19, 2017, 11:16:30 AM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)
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June 19, 2017, 11:19:10 AM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)




What your talking about lal?
If bitcoin No.. beceause were going downside...
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June 19, 2017, 11:23:33 AM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)




What your talking about lal?
If bitcoin No.. beceause were going downside...
Great last change to dump..
Pools are finaly updating, no fear of forks anymore,
this all in past hours, market not reacted yet

long time 1000 blocks support value still at 4%, will be up soon..
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June 19, 2017, 11:27:29 AM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)




What your talking about lal?
If bitcoin No.. beceause were going downside...
Great last change to dump..
Pools are finaly updating, no fear of forks anymore,
this all in past hours, market not reacted yet




Where do you see/Find this information?
The market isnt reacting at all
I see litle red candles on chart of kraken..
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June 19, 2017, 11:28:19 AM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)




What your talking about lal?
If bitcoin No.. beceause were going downside...
Great last change to dump..
Pools are finaly updating, no fear of forks anymore,
this all in past hours, market not reacted yet




Where do you see/Find this information?
The market isnt reacting at all
I see litle red candles on chart of kraken..

I was about to post:

https://coin.dance/blocks
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June 19, 2017, 11:31:47 AM

I see it But what do you think the price Will go up?
Your theorie is based on what speculation...
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June 19, 2017, 11:36:07 AM

I see it But what do you think the price Will go up?
Your theorie is based on what speculation...
It is all about panic and FOMO.

23.6  27.1%!!

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June 19, 2017, 11:39:18 AM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)

How long until they can signal for the 2MB hard fork that comes with it?
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June 19, 2017, 11:46:12 AM

Any ideas why the exchanges are speculating a drop to 1723 in the short term? http://www.bitcoinforecast.com
Although this is not always correct, bitstamp nailed the most recent drop within a few bucks.  

What a bunch of fucktards having an anti-trump disclaimer on their site.  The label has the typical "trump be raycist" statement, but all the word racist means nowadays is white people that refuse to be cuckolds for brown people.

No, racism has not narrowed itself down to fit your narrative of it.

Honestly, I respect your trading posts. I think they are well written and show insight. But whatever politics you have, you would never trade them -  and your skin color -  for being a black person getting stopped by a white cop. Would you.

I'm not really a gormless Galt-right twonk. I'm a performance artist.

I knew it!
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June 19, 2017, 11:48:02 AM

Wahou...
And... What's going to happen if Segwit reach 80% support?

I mean BTC price has been so high for weeks I don't want to see it crash for technical reasons...
Although technical reasons would probably the only reasons for a real crash of BTC
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June 19, 2017, 11:52:08 AM

Any ideas why the exchanges are speculating a drop to 1723 in the short term? http://www.bitcoinforecast.com
Although this is not always correct, bitstamp nailed the most recent drop within a few bucks.  

What a bunch of fucktards having an anti-trump disclaimer on their site.  The label has the typical "trump be raycist" statement, but all the word racist means nowadays is white people that refuse to be cuckolds for brown people.

No, racism has not narrowed itself down to fit your narrative of it.

Honestly, I respect your trading posts. I think they are well written and show insight. But whatever politics you have, you would never trade them -  and your skin color -  for being a black person getting stopped by a white cop. Would you.

I hate to break it to you, but there's only 3 real powers in this world right now:  whites, jews, and asians.  Everyone else is just some type of pawn or insignificant bystander while the murderous death cult known as international zionism actively plots against everyone else.

"I am the only living witness but I must say the truth. Contrary to the opinion of the National Socialists, that the Jews were a highly organized group, the appalling fact was that they had no organization whatsoever. The mass of the Jewish people were taken complete by surprise. They did not know at all what to do; they had no directives or slogans as to how they should act. This is the greatest lie of anti-Semitism because it gives the lie to that old slogan that the Jews are conspiring to dominate the world and that they are so highly organized. In reality, they had no organization of their own at all, not even an information service. If they had had some sort of organization, these people could have been saved by the millions, but instead, they were taken completely by surprise. Never before has a people gone as unsuspectingly to its disaster. Nothing was prepared. Absolutely nothing."
- Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski

The world is a place with lots of incompatible people, religions, and cultures.

The only incompatibility stems from being afraid of what's different.
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Wahou...
And... What's going to happen if Segwit reach 80% support?

I mean BTC price has been so high for weeks I don't want to see it crash for technical reasons...
Although technical reasons would probably the only reasons for a real crash of BTC

We will see it really soon!
65% 67.5% segwit2x support at last 40 blocks

I think it is the last call for bitcoin, if price wont get more up after this, it never will.
People will move to another coins if this wont push it to the moon.
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June 19, 2017, 12:03:27 PM

Jimmy Song is here...to get you to convert all your bitcoin immediately to litecoin...

http://medium.com/@jimmysong/examining-bitmains-press-release-6b47b0646f15
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er this? https://medium.com/@ViaBTC/uahf-ico-proposal-draft-b962c7e00718

Jimmy Song is here...to get you to convert all your bitcoin immediately to litecoin...

http://medium.com/@jimmysong/examining-bitmains-press-release-6b47b0646f15

that's so 5 days ago
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June 19, 2017, 12:34:47 PM

It is happening!

23,6% segwit2x support and going up fast
(last 144 blocks)

How long until they can signal for the 2MB hard fork that comes with it?

Can anybody give me a quick rundown of what this means, or a proper resource that I can read?
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June 19, 2017, 12:55:42 PM

"I am the only living witness but I must say the truth. Contrary to the opinion of the National Socialists, that the Jews were a highly organized group, the appalling fact was that they had no organization whatsoever. The mass of the Jewish people were taken complete by surprise. They did not know at all what to do; they had no directives or slogans as to how they should act. This is the greatest lie of anti-Semitism because it gives the lie to that old slogan that the Jews are conspiring to dominate the world and that they are so highly organized. In reality, they had no organization of their own at all, not even an information service. If they had had some sort of organization, these people could have been saved by the millions, but instead, they were taken completely by surprise. Never before has a people gone as unsuspectingly to its disaster. Nothing was prepared. Absolutely nothing."
- Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski

Because they're a paper tiger:  a bunch of frail and helpless Woody Allen-like people who have no power besides financial manipulation and media propaganda - which is a highly destructive power capable of ruining nations - but once you take that power away, are in no way equipped to deal with the enormous blowback they create and are instantly destroyed.  Don't live by the sword if you're not prepared to die by the sword.

What you're describing is also known as collective punishment.  Yes, not all of those people are actively plotting to screw over everyone else, but the fact remains that if you REFUSE to police your own kind and let them act like psychopaths constantly trying to drain everyone's wealth through usury and manipulate society with destructive media propaganda, you force the other side into making the Machiavellian choice of, "welp, I can either live as a slave or wipe out the slave masters entirely".  

History will repeat once again, because once again they have refused to police their own kind while citing their Talmudic religious texts that claim non-Jews are "goyim cattle" who are below jews and meant to serve them.  In case you haven't noticed, Christianity is mostly a benign religion nowadays, while both Judaism and Islam are still outwardly hostile death cults to anyone they come in contact with.

The world is a place with lots of incompatible people, religions, and cultures.

The only incompatibility stems from being afraid of what's different.

Bullshit.  Different just means "diversity", which is just a synonym for "less white people" or "white genocide".  I notice you aren't walking around in China or Africa amongst the 99.9% Chinese or African population and complaining to them that it's not "diverse" enough.  No, uttering propaganda words like that simply means you're an anti-white Marxist.  It's honestly amazing white people fell for that propaganda for such a long time, but now it doesn't work anymore and you're just identifying yourself immediately as a hostile enemy combatant by uttering such words.
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