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August 02, 2017, 01:53:19 AM


I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?
That sucks because if you were already in place to exchange you could take advantage of the price!  ARg!!!!!
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August 02, 2017, 01:54:18 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

On which exchange you deposited?
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August 02, 2017, 01:59:13 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

It is the original. It is simply Bitcoin with the maxblocksize set large enough to accommodate the current demand.



This made me chortle:



(And it may also provide an alternative answer to your rhetorical question ((OK, that admittedly wasn't charitable)) )
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August 02, 2017, 02:01:24 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

Difficult too high, low hashrate, few blocks/confirmation per day?

I'm sure you know that and trying to play dumb. You are good at it.
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August 02, 2017, 02:03:05 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

I can in one number : 7tps.

I wanted a 10mb block size, then 100 and 1000 but I make a concession and will see how it goes with time.

Then it has the history, making all the cold hodler have the amount. Mining gears are the same. And there is no useless and dangerous complications resulting from offchain txs.

I can understand the arguments of those who don't want to change the 1mb, and don't want segwit. Keeping the code as is. However as soon as the intentions behind is to push for segwit (to earn the fees) or to push another chain, I think it's dishonest toward those who started it all.
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August 02, 2017, 02:05:56 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?
I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

On which exchange you deposited?

The exchange is irrelevant. Fact is that I'm watching the blockchain and the client and it's taking over one hour to create another block. If the exchange demands 6 confirmations it will take 6 hours!
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August 02, 2017, 02:07:31 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

Difficult too high, low hashrate, few blocks/confirmation per day?

I'm sure you know that and trying to play dumb. You are good at it.

Sorry, sir? Do I know you?
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August 02, 2017, 02:09:08 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?
I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

On which exchange you deposited?

The exchange is irrelevant. Fact is that I'm watching the blockchain and the client and it's taking over one hour to create another block. If the exchange demands 6 confirmations it will take 6 hours!

There is no exchange accepting BTC Cash Deposits at this time.
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August 02, 2017, 02:09:33 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?
I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

On which exchange you deposited?

The exchange is irrelevant. Fact is that I'm watching the blockchain and the client and it's taking over one hour to create another block. If the exchange demands 6 confirmations it will take 6 hours!

There is no exchange accepting BTC Cash Deposits at this time.

Have you tried hitbtc?
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August 02, 2017, 02:11:05 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?
I can explain why not. My deposit on exchange is taking over 2 hours and only has 2 confirmations till now! Isn't this the solution for all BTC problems?

On which exchange you deposited?

The exchange is irrelevant. Fact is that I'm watching the blockchain and the client and it's taking over one hour to create another block. If the exchange demands 6 confirmations it will take 6 hours!

There is no exchange accepting BTC Cash Deposits at this time.

I deposited fine on viabtc, but I gotta wait 6 confirmation's before pulling btc out.
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August 02, 2017, 02:11:26 AM

Do you know a profitability calculator displaying bch? What's the actual rate compared to btc mining?
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August 02, 2017, 02:12:19 AM

It is the original. It is simply Bitcoin with the maxblocksize set large enough to accommodate the current demand.


Regarding Bitcoin Cash:

I hope the whole damn thing ends up completely consolidated into a single, gigantic Chinese data center.

With 128 MB blocks.

Where the mega miner can make dev changes directly to the code and adopt his/her own changes without user concern.

Perhaps even change it to closed source. And get rid of the coin cap.

Behind the Great Firewall.

Where the Chinese Govt. can block it at any time they wish.

Sounds perfectly like Satoshi's vision, yeah?

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August 02, 2017, 02:14:40 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

It is the original. It is simply Bitcoin with the maxblocksize set large enough to accommodate the current demand.



This made me chortle:



(And it may also provide an alternative answer to your rhetorical question ((OK, that admittedly wasn't charitable)) )
In that case, odds that it will overtake what is currently called bitcoin?
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August 02, 2017, 02:15:37 AM

I think I'll wait until there's a nice Bitpay client that will do this split for me. I'm sure it will have mooned by then.  Roll Eyes
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August 02, 2017, 02:15:42 AM

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

I can in one number : 7tps.

I wanted a 10mb block size, then 100 and 1000 but I make a concession and will see how it goes with time.

Then it has the history, making all the cold hodler have the amount. Mining gears are the same. And there is no useless and dangerous complications resulting from offchain txs.

I can understand the arguments of those who don't want to change the 1mb, and don't want segwit. Keeping the code as is. However as soon as the intentions behind is to push for segwit (to earn the fees) or to push another chain, I think it's dishonest toward those who started it all.
It's people that don't understand fundamentals.

There is no founded argument that increasing 7tps increasing the value.  Economics doesn't support it.  There is no grounded arguments.  There are only people that have no understanding of economics that are screaming like roger "It obvious you dummies" .

Sometimes when the experts and knowledgeable people disagree with what seems like common sense, its because the problem is more complex than you think and the solution not so obvious.

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August 02, 2017, 02:22:10 AM

It is the original. It is simply Bitcoin with the maxblocksize set large enough to accommodate the current demand.


Regarding Bitcoin Cash:

I hope the whole damn thing ends up completely consolidated in a single, gigantic Chinese data center.

With 128 MB blocks.

Where the mega miner can make dev changes directly to the code and adopt his/her own changes without user concern.

Perhaps even change it to closed source.

Behind the Great Firewall.

Where the Chinese Govt. can block it at any time they wish.

Sounds perfectly like Satoshi's vision, yeah?



do you know the command pruning ?

    -prune=<n>    Reduce storage requirements by enabling pruning (deleting) of old blocks. This allows the pruneblockchain RPC to be called to delete specific blocks, and enables automatic pruning of old blocks if a target size in MiB is provided. This mode is incompatible with -txindex and -rescan. Warning: Reverting this setting requires re-downloading the entire blockchain. (default: 0 = disable pruning blocks, 1 = allow manual pruning via RPC, >550 = automatically prune block files to stay under the specified target size in MiB)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013JPKUU2/ref=s9_acsd_zwish_hd_bw_b1Muqux_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_r=5S25BFB90F47CP2XV7Y6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=8fc50eca-db79-5cb9-b4bf-3deedcf4fb2d&pf_rd_i=1254762011

4tbs for 114$. You can use sata ports (most mb have at least 2, but more common is 4+) and build a small raid array. This is the raspi debate. What do you want? with 1mb, fees will get exorbitant or it's the offchain problematic.

Whoever, if anyone, thinks this new clone coin has better fundamentals than the original, could you explain why?

I can in one number : 7tps.

I wanted a 10mb block size, then 100 and 1000 but I make a concession and will see how it goes with time.

Then it has the history, making all the cold hodler have the amount. Mining gears are the same. And there is no useless and dangerous complications resulting from offchain txs.

I can understand the arguments of those who don't want to change the 1mb, and don't want segwit. Keeping the code as is. However as soon as the intentions behind is to push for segwit (to earn the fees) or to push another chain, I think it's dishonest toward those who started it all.
It's people that don't understand fundamentals.

There is no founded argument that increasing 7tps increasing the value.  Economics doesn't support it.  There is no grounded arguments.  There are only people that have no understanding of economics that are screaming like roger "It obvious you dummies" .

Sometimes when the experts and knowledgeable people disagree with what seems like common sense, its because the problem is more complex than you think and the solution not so obvious.

 



it's clear. how can you not see? the argument is "grounded". there is a strong difference between experts and smart scammers.
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August 02, 2017, 02:24:34 AM

The exchanges wallets will remain blocked until the owners decide.  This is really a shameless manipulation but par for an unregulated industry.
Watch out when the floodgates open.
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August 02, 2017, 02:28:19 AM


it's clear. how can you not see? the argument is "grounded". there is a strong difference between experts and smart scammers.
That's not how you make a grounded argument.  There is accepted economic philosophy.  You have to tie your argument to it otherwise its inconsistent with observable reality.  You can point to two simultaneous events and claim observation is proof that one causes the other.

It's a community of 5 year olds.
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August 02, 2017, 02:29:33 AM

The exchanges wallets will remain blocked until the owners decide.  This is really a shameless manipulation but par for an unregulated industry.
Watch out when the floodgates open.
Sux because if we could just exchange our btc for bch we could get the free money!!!  Can anyone solve this problem?

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Can anyone solve this problem?

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