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Question: Nov. 30 Price Forecast:
Below $5,500 - 34 (12.2%)
$5,500 to $6,000 - 13 (4.7%)
$6,000 to $6,500 - 8 (2.9%)
$6,500 to $7,000 - 22 (7.9%)
$7,000 to $7,500 - 23 (8.2%)
$7,500 to $8,000 - 23 (8.2%)
$8,000 to $8,500 - 40 (14.3%)
Over $8,500 - 116 (41.6%)
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November 10, 2017, 09:18:30 AM

Due to its strong incentive to hoard rather than spend, Bitcoin is already a "peer Peerage to peer Peerage Electronic Cash System". 

Payment has already been disrupted by the like of Alipay, which has retained 500 million users and attracted over USD$1 trillion for its money market fund in the space of a few years.  A decentralized blockchain can never hope to achieve such adoption compare to a centralized solution.  In fact, the reason why Japan even introduces "J-Coin" is largely due to the expansion of Alipay into neighboring countries such as Japan and Taiwan.  Because seriously, who would want their personal banking details and spending habits stored in China and be available to Chicom censors? 

There is no need to re-invent the wheel.  Bitcoin only has to try remaining decentralized and trustless and serve its function for social scaling and reaching consensus.  One can then build payment/credit/derivative layers on top as per Exeter's pyramid. 


I agree with you it is already invented but i would say that bitcoin can go to 10k easily at the end of this year don't you agree with me it has already reached 7.5k don't you think it can go even higher than that easily?
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November 10, 2017, 09:32:25 AM

Bitcoin could have been the #1 and solved all the problems. Instead, it retards itself to 6 tp/s and has been taken over by the likes of Adam "I invented Bitcoin" Back, Gregory Maxwell the Wikipedia troll and Luke "I think the Sun revolves around the Earth" junior. Literally a trio of Retards, at the end of the day they are nothing more than useful idiots who receive their paychecks directly from the Banksters that Bitcoin was invented to destroy. They will go down in history as Liars, shills and idiots who held back Crypto's potential for years and forced the rise of altcoins and bitcoin cash. Oh well. I guess it doesn't matter - We are going to win anyway.

Don't you think you are stressing the scaling debate a little too much?

Biggest blocks could be a solution, but segwit should work too, and if properly developed I think is a much more elegant solution than biggest blocks.

Altcash seems to me even more centralized than core, but what I really think is that there are no evil bankster behind any side, just some pression groups who want to achieve their interest. Zero trust environment, as usual, with powerful personalities both sides, but no evil jew banksters.

I'm glad you buyed @20 usd, I buyed a year later @1000, mined at loss and I have made little profits, but I don't think your "i'm rich in bitcoin" argument is valid when it comes to scaling debate.

I think that everyone should possibly be able to run a full node on a raspberry in afghanistan, this is very important, why you think that 8x tx/s are more important than this? And what happens when 8mb block are full? Don't you think we are going to buy our coffee with 8 mb blocks right?
 
I'm not rich at all, but my point is that many thousands are getting into bitcoin just recently because of it's increase in popularity, they read censored forums which are intentionally manipulated and then they are engaging in obvious groupthink psychological manipulation - This is a pretty obvious tactic that has been often used by various intelligence agencies of the world. People who got into BTC earlier, IE 2011-2012 generally aren't as likely to fall for Blockstream's manipulation, censorship and misinformation tactics. And those are the ones who are now being ostracized from the community. This points to a complete rewrite of the original BTC community, it's intentions, its code, its purpose, and its future. Satoshi's Bitcoin is dead. Now it's BlockstreamCoin - A Bitcoin NOT meant to compete with FIAT, or meant to compete with banks, but rather a settlement layer for the Rich and a speculator toy to play around with on exchanges. That's Blockstream's vision. Forget about the masses. Blockstream firmly believes that FIAT is superior to Crypto (after all that's what they get paid in) --- and Bitcoin should just be a settlement layer primarily used by the already-Rich and Speculators. Christ, I can't believe it even has to be argued - it's so obvious that Blockstream are the corporate takeover of Bitcoin that it makes my eyes bleed.
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Haha you are right he could have said it in lesser words took me like 5 minutes to read everything and understand it but can we just not talk about Christ around here? that is so inappropriate for all the Christians around here.
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November 10, 2017, 09:36:13 AM

How much hours left in fork approximately?

BTG snapshot is on the 25th, then coins hit in November (10th?). 2x is later in November.

So still 3 days left? Interesting days...

About 2x, I think its support will be withdrawn and nothing would happen.

I predicted the failure of Segwit2x a long time ago... Smiley

Currently the time to sell bitcoin and buy ethereum/ethereum classics.
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November 10, 2017, 09:36:24 AM

Re: Mt Gox

On the bankruptcy creditor forms I filled in, the form asked if I wanted to be paid in JPY or BTC.

I opted for BTC.  I was (stupidly) thinking I would get X% of the BTC I lost (according to the ratio left, in proportion to the loss).  I assumed it might be 20% (ish) in BTC.  Which would have been fine.

But to sell them and be paid based on the cash value at the time?  I had most of my BTC out so it was only about 5 BTC, but I guess it won't be much now relative to the BTC.   I agree with Jojo that he was just a numbskull, but to end up with hundreds of millions....

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, I guess - but nor does it make a lot of sense.

More worrying is a giant auction to sell the BTC doing further damage to add to the whole Gox collapse in the first place.
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November 10, 2017, 09:50:00 AM

Bitcoin could have been the #1 and solved all the problems. Instead, it retards itself to 6 tp/s and has been taken over by the likes of Adam "I invented Bitcoin" Back, Gregory Maxwell the Wikipedia troll and Luke "I think the Sun revolves around the Earth" junior. Literally a trio of Retards, at the end of the day they are nothing more than useful idiots who receive their paychecks directly from the Banksters that Bitcoin was invented to destroy. They will go down in history as Liars, shills and idiots who held back Crypto's potential for years and forced the rise of altcoins and bitcoin cash. Oh well. I guess it doesn't matter - We are going to win anyway.

Don't you think you are stressing the scaling debate a little too much?

Biggest blocks could be a solution, but segwit should work too, and if properly developed I think is a much more elegant solution than biggest blocks.

Altcash seems to me even more centralized than core, but what I really think is that there are no evil bankster behind any side, just some pression groups who want to achieve their interest. Zero trust environment, as usual, with powerful personalities both sides, but no evil jew banksters.

I'm glad you buyed @20 usd, I buyed a year later @1000, mined at loss and I have made little profits, but I don't think your "i'm rich in bitcoin" argument is valid when it comes to scaling debate.

I think that everyone should possibly be able to run a full node on a raspberry in afghanistan, this is very important, why you think that 8x tx/s are more important than this? And what happens when 8mb block are full? Don't you think we are going to buy our coffee with 8 mb blocks right?
 
I'm not rich at all, but my point is that many thousands are getting into bitcoin just recently because of it's increase in popularity, they read censored forums which are intentionally manipulated and then they are engaging in obvious groupthink psychological manipulation - This is a pretty obvious tactic that has been often used by various intelligence agencies of the world. People who got into BTC earlier, IE 2011-2012 generally aren't as likely to fall for Blockstream's manipulation, censorship and misinformation tactics. And those are the ones who are now being ostracized from the community. This points to a complete rewrite of the original BTC community, it's intentions, its code, its purpose, and its future. Satoshi's Bitcoin is dead. Now it's BlockstreamCoin - A Bitcoin NOT meant to compete with FIAT, or meant to compete with banks, but rather a settlement layer for the Rich and a speculator toy to play around with on exchanges. That's Blockstream's vision. Forget about the masses. Blockstream firmly believes that FIAT is superior to Crypto (after all that's what they get paid in) --- and Bitcoin should just be a settlement layer primarily used by the already-Rich and Speculators. Christ, I can't believe it even has to be argued - it's so obvious that Blockstream are the corporate takeover of Bitcoin that it makes my eyes bleed.
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Haha you are right he could have said it in lesser words took me like 5 minutes to read everything and understand it but can we just not talk about Christ around here? that is so inappropriate for all the Christians around here.
It's not even about the time or length of something. People who use an excessive amount of words to convey their meaning, and put it all in one big clump to make it difficult and bothersome to read, are inherently deceitful. They do it to mask whatever their agenda is.
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November 10, 2017, 09:52:44 AM

2X money is flowing into BitCH coin.

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$836.87 (33.86%)  |  0.11677600 BTC (34.88%)
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November 10, 2017, 09:52:55 AM

My fork coins are worth what my bitcoins were worth last year.

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Convert them into bitcoin - Job done
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November 10, 2017, 09:53:51 AM

My fork coins are worth what my bitcoins were worth last year.

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Convert them into bitcoin - Job done
Nah, cashing them out. I can afford to and it will make the next several years stress free to have them as a cushion.
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Damn! I wish that happened to me too...
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November 10, 2017, 10:19:15 AM


https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/resort-tycoon-says-hes-ordered-dem-leaders-to-adopt-pro-billionaire-platform-911c92a6116b

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November 10, 2017, 10:20:46 AM

2X money if flowing into BitCH coin.
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What the fuck is up with that stupid shit ?!
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November 10, 2017, 10:23:10 AM

Easy, just go to a japanese jail for a few years.
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November 10, 2017, 10:24:05 AM

The Wall Street Journal: Bitcoin the World’s Most Dramatic Bubble Ever?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-the-worlds-most-dramatic-bubble-ever-1510303095

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November 10, 2017, 10:25:26 AM

2X money if flowing into BitCH coin.
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What the fuck is up with that stupid shit ?!
I actually expected it. Ideologues don't let little things like facts and numbers and profit get in the way of pumping their One True Coin.
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November 10, 2017, 10:27:59 AM

I need to send my wife to a Japanese prison  Huh
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I need to send my wife to a Japanese prison  Huh
But if you do she will dump you when she gets out because she thinks she can do better.
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November 10, 2017, 10:31:56 AM

I need to send my wife to a Japanese prison  Huh

You made my day !  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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I need to send my wife to a Japanese prison  Huh

good one Smiley
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November 10, 2017, 10:41:49 AM

2X money if flowing into BitCH coin.
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What the fuck is up with that stupid shit ?!
I actually expected it. Ideologues don't let little things like facts and numbers and profit get in the way of pumping their One True Coin.

It's just that it's full of people who would trade even dog shits if they smell a chance that they could pump, aka /biz/raelis.
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