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Question: Dec. 16 Bitcoin Price:
<$10,000 - 23 (12.4%)
$10,000-$12,000 - 7 (3.8%)
$12,000-$14,000 - 10 (5.4%)
$14,000-$16,000 - 13 (7%)
$16,000-$18,000 - 23 (12.4%)
$18,000-$20,000 - 31 (16.8%)
$20,000-$22,000 - 28 (15.1%)
$24,000-$26,000 - 12 (6.5%)
$26,000-$28,000 - 3 (1.6%)
$28,000-$30,000 - 6 (3.2%)
>$30,000 - 29 (15.7%)
Total Voters: 185

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November 12, 2017, 11:08:10 PM

Self-preservation is an innate right of any human born on this planet. And preparing for a day when someone might try to attack and eliminate you is also an innate right of self-preservation. It's not begging for war, it's preparing for self-defense.

No one said you don't have the right for preparing for war or self-defense or whatever. You are just making such an incident more likely, that's all.

The Buddhist Shaolin monks of China would disagree with you.

Interesting, i guess i will have to discuss with them one time.
Even in the event that an attacker gains more than 50% of the network's computational power, only transactions sent by the attacker could be reversed or double-spent. The network would not be destroyed.
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November 12, 2017, 11:08:41 PM

Can't wait until BTC pulls back up from this dip so, this thread can go back to Carolina memes and train videos...
That's another very important human flaw. During war all people can think of is peace. But during peace nobody thinks about war. We should, because peace is always temporary, and the better we prepare for war the better chance of surviving.

That's some real Niccolò Machiavelli stuff right there...
Do you have a counterargument to it? I would like to hear it if so. Being wrong is the highlight of my day, because it's a chance to learn something new. Especially when I turn out to be wrong about a conclusion I don't like, such as in this case. So, if you have something to share?

I have no argument to pursue with you. I tried to bring a light hearted joke to this otherwise increasingly tense thread. Your follow up comment is literally a quote from Machiavelli which I pointed out.

I would agree with the underlying theme of your message which I interpret as not being too comfortable with your surroundings and be prepared for change. I would add that people should also strive to be adaptable on all levels of thier life. A person can not be prepared for everything but, an adaptable person will survive.
They are my own words, so all I can say to that is that Machi must have been one smart cookie. Anyway, it is what it is.
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November 12, 2017, 11:10:01 PM

We can't let them win even once, because that's all it takes. They don't care about logic or morals or any of that stuff. The only way to dislodge them after they take over is through physical violence.

Am i interpreting this correctly that in case that BCH becomes the dominating chain you are here publicly advocating physical violence against BCH-proponents?
I'm saying that the coming global financial collapse will be worse without a version of bitcoin true to Satoshis spirit than with it. Our actions here could literally save lives, maybe a lot of them. But it requires action, and the willingness to accept reality as it is in order to take said action.

Ok, i see a point to that.

Obv it's still to be determined what IS the true vision of Satoshi and which version of Bitcoin follows this vision more closely, but that's another topic.
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November 12, 2017, 11:11:34 PM

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.
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November 12, 2017, 11:17:26 PM

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.


As I wrote before, it now seems that not even its creators are mining it!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin
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November 12, 2017, 11:18:38 PM

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.


As I wrote before, it now seems that not even its creators are mining it!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin
What a complete joke. Wonder how many more attacks they'll manage to troll people with.
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November 12, 2017, 11:18:48 PM

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.


Yeah really, total crap coin. My coins are stuck, what is this Shit?
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November 12, 2017, 11:24:34 PM

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.


Yeah really, total crap coin. My coins are stuck, what is this Shit?
It's called a shitcoin. Fortunately I was able to move a lot of it over to Bitcoin (where the transaction still was fine, maybe a few minutes slower) before the fuckening.
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November 12, 2017, 11:25:14 PM

Looks like BCH was pumped and left to die. Nobody is mining it. Nobody can transfer this shit to exchanges and sell it. Bitcoin Cash CEOs say they hope to win the Bitcoin name? LOL
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November 12, 2017, 11:25:24 PM

I think this will the dumpers last gasp. BTC now 3.1X more profitable to mine than BCH.

https://fork.lol/

My guess will be that we will see another pump that goes higher than the previous one, but I don't have any money on this.
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November 12, 2017, 11:26:07 PM

jeezus christ!
 is that ver character pumping dash now? wtf?!
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November 12, 2017, 11:30:53 PM

$5000 is my mental stop-loss. I really hope it holds.
Are they dumping in an attempt to maximize damage? I mean there are probably more subtle methods of cashing out.
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November 12, 2017, 11:34:34 PM

Right now it's looking to be like watching a slow-motion abortion. I'm going to grab a beer, everyone just move into litecoin :-)
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November 12, 2017, 11:34:48 PM

$5000 is my mental stop-loss. I really hope it holds.
Are they dumping in an attempt to maximize damage? I mean there are probably more subtle methods of cashing out.
Considering most people supporting 2X and Cash absolutely hate Core and the main chain I guess this is their way of trying to damage us. Subtle was probably not part of their plan.


Finally called a correction in time, two days before it happened (or one?). We've been in line for one ever since price started pumping up to $7000.
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November 12, 2017, 11:34:56 PM

$5000 is my mental stop-loss. I really hope it holds.
Are they dumping in an attempt to maximize damage? I mean there are probably more subtle methods of cashing out.
Damage, otherwise as you said, there are subtle ways.
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November 12, 2017, 11:35:25 PM

Libtard is an actual slur. But the fact is that there are a type of people who refer to themselves as social justice warriors (and a lot of people who don't but think and act exactly like them). You know this, right? It's an actual description, not an ad hom. Well, any more than calling a(n actual) nazi a nazi is. Do you object to the allies referring to nazis as nazis during the war as well?

I run in pretty diverse circles and have yet to encounter anyone who would describe themselves as such.  I would guess that there are a very few, very young dudes hoping to get in the pants of women's studies majors that might do so...like maybe 2 in Minneapolis/St Paul and 3 in Olympia.  The majority of people I encounter actually working on issues of social justice, such as racial or gender equality, very much dislike the people you identify as SJW as they bring bad press and distracting drama.

I will admit. it is comforting to paint everyone you disagree with with the same broad brush, but it is intellectually lazy and ultimately hinders a more nuanced understanding of the situation.
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November 12, 2017, 11:37:09 PM

Just in case anyone is interested, just got an email telling me about free books. These are highly relevant to the current bullshit going on, and useful in general, so quoting from the email:

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November 12, 2017, 11:38:13 PM

$5000 is my mental stop-loss. I really hope it holds.
Are they dumping in an attempt to maximize damage? I mean there are probably more subtle methods of cashing out.
Damage, otherwise as you said, there are subtle ways.
Too bad we've had a correction coming anyways.
Unless they manage to dump the price to $1000 they would've failed quite horribly to even be able to claim they've did any damage.

If I wasn't following the whole drama I would just shrug the Bitcoin decline off since it's so ridiculously tiny in comparison to what it has seen in its younger days.
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November 12, 2017, 11:40:25 PM

Libtard is an actual slur. But the fact is that there are a type of people who refer to themselves as social justice warriors (and a lot of people who don't but think and act exactly like them). You know this, right? It's an actual description, not an ad hom. Well, any more than calling a(n actual) nazi a nazi is. Do you object to the allies referring to nazis as nazis during the war as well?

I run in pretty diverse circles and have yet to encounter anyone who would describe themselves as such.  I would guess that there are a very few, very young dudes hoping to get in the pants of women's studies majors that might do so...like maybe 2 in Minneapolis/St Paul and 3 in Olympia.  The majority of people I encounter actually working on issues of social justice, such as racial or gender equality, very much dislike the people you identify as SJW as they bring bad press and distracting drama.

I will admit. it is comforting to paint everyone you disagree with with the same broad brush, but it is intellectually lazy and ultimately hinders a more nuanced understanding of the situation.
Alright, an actual scientific descriptor then.

The people in question all have an r-psychology.

Sufficient?
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