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June 03, 2018, 05:42:50 PM

Who cares? Technology is a genie that once let out of the bottle can not be put back in. It will be with us forever. Bureaucrats and systems of record and title transfer come and go. In the long march of time even mountains are reduced to dust by the simple flowing of water. Technology is like the water and Bureaucrats are not even close to being mountains.
No I get what you are saying. Perhaps blockchain will eventually find it's way into a few other places here and there where it makes sense to have it.

Though if the next 30 years go by and I still can't legally transfer a car title to another person for free via a decentralized blockchain solution, it won't mean much sweat to me as I'll probably be close to death anyway, lol.

If it does happen in the next 30 years it will be because political jurisdictions are in a sort of competition with one another. I wouldn't be surprised to see smaller jurisdictions implement as much of this kinda stuff as they can in order to attract expats.

IoT

I could see a sort of blockchain existing between a companies till systems to take care of loyalty points. I gain 5 points in a transaction in London. I go to Manchester and spend them at that till in another transaction. All tracked and managed independently of any human effort. Only they need a process to add and verify any new tills and its effortless for them. 
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June 03, 2018, 05:48:37 PM

A tech analyst on CNBC video talking about Bitcoin price action like it's a serious financial market asset.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/bitcoin-finds-a-bottom-after-plunging-from-highs-technician.html

I can remember when the MSM had nothing positive to say about Bitcoin, and certainly no serious trading discussion.

Mind blown.

exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of
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exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of

Going on the average age of posters in this thread, there's no longer such a thing as a boner to be ashamed of any more for most. All of them are a gift.
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June 03, 2018, 05:56:17 PM

This gives me a boner:

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June 03, 2018, 06:01:25 PM

This gives me a boner:



Epic cup & handle?
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June 03, 2018, 06:02:55 PM

So much boner talk. I hope there will be happy ending
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June 03, 2018, 06:05:18 PM

So much boner talk. I hope there will be happy ending

A 38 metre arc of the creamiest semen just for you. And it'll be from multiple posters who'll join streams just like the end of Ghostbusters.
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I find that ... distasteful
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June 03, 2018, 06:11:24 PM

There is a strong correlation between conspiracy theorists and low cognitive capability.  Make of that what you will.  
hmmm. many conspiracys are later found to be true. wake up people

"Many" = "<0.01%"

uh...no

However, regarding the moon landings specifically, it is true that many of the Apollo photos were faked or altered, which in retrospect was an extremely bad move as it has provided endless grist for the denier mill.

I find it very difficult to believe the moon landings were faked.

Considering the political environment of the time, the USA was in a race against a technically competent opponent full of very smart people, don't you think Russia, China, or any other country capable of doing so, would have called out the USA immediately? Embarrass the shit out of the USA by proving mathematically/showing that they did not in fact do what they said? I've never read or heard of such.

Edit: Regarding the photos, those I have no comment on. They could have been faked, sure; the actual landings though, I don't believe so.
Acquire sufficiently powerful telescope.
Look at the moon rover.

Done and fucking done, next empty item please.
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June 03, 2018, 06:13:41 PM

There is a strong correlation between conspiracy theorists and low cognitive capability.  Make of that what you will.  
hmmm. many conspiracys are later found to be true. wake up people

"Many" = "<0.01%"

uh...no

However, regarding the moon landings specifically, it is true that many of the Apollo photos were faked or altered, which in retrospect was an extremely bad move as it has provided endless grist for the denier mill.

I find it very difficult to believe the moon landings were faked.

Considering the political environment of the time, the USA was in a race against a technically competent opponent full of very smart people, don't you think Russia, China, or any other country capable of doing so, would have called out the USA immediately? Embarrass the shit out of the USA by proving mathematically/showing that they did not in fact do what they said? I've never read or heard of such.

Edit: Regarding the photos, those I have no comment on. They could have been faked, sure; the actual landings though, I don't believe so.
Acquire sufficiently powerful telescope.
Look at the moon rover.

Done and fucking done, next empty item please.

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June 03, 2018, 06:21:19 PM

exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of

Going on the average age of posters in this thread, there's no longer such a thing as a boner to be ashamed of any more for most. All of them are a gift.
It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.
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June 03, 2018, 06:22:26 PM

It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.

A very interesting stat and I've no idea why. Maybe it's staying power and the ability to look beyond that particular day's pump and dump.
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June 03, 2018, 06:24:53 PM
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Acquire sufficiently powerful telescope.
Look at the moon rover.

Done and fucking done, next empty item please.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/45-our-solar-system/the-moon/the-moon-landings/122-are-there-telescopes-that-can-see-the-flag-and-lunar-rover-on-the-moon-beginner

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-11.html
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June 03, 2018, 06:25:47 PM

There is a strong correlation between conspiracy theorists and low cognitive capability.  Make of that what you will.  
hmmm. many conspiracys are later found to be true. wake up people

"Many" = "<0.01%"

uh...no

However, regarding the moon landings specifically, it is true that many of the Apollo photos were faked or altered, which in retrospect was an extremely bad move as it has provided endless grist for the denier mill.

I find it very difficult to believe the moon landings were faked.

Considering the political environment of the time, the USA was in a race against a technically competent opponent full of very smart people, don't you think Russia, China, or any other country capable of doing so, would have called out the USA immediately? Embarrass the shit out of the USA by proving mathematically/showing that they did not in fact do what they said? I've never read or heard of such.

Edit: Regarding the photos, those I have no comment on. They could have been faked, sure; the actual landings though, I don't believe so.
Acquire sufficiently powerful telescope.
Look at the moon rover.

Done and fucking done, next empty item please.

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This guy has a sufficiently powerful telescope.

There is also a collective/group of people with powerful telescopes who share images and footage of the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpq7HqviCxw

The weird thing is they all seem to be of the same conlcusion

..."There is buildings on the moon"...

more conspiracy, who knows
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June 03, 2018, 06:26:03 PM

It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.

A very interesting stat and I've no idea why. Maybe it's staying power and the ability to look beyond that particular day's pump and dump.
A long term horizon is part of the K psychology, and that is partly a result of time. Huh. Maybe getting hit by a bus did more good for me than harm.
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exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of

Going on the average age of posters in this thread, there's no longer such a thing as a boner to be ashamed of any more for most. All of them are a gift.
It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.

I’m early to mid 30’s. Won’t reveal my exact age but yeah, those of us with a half decent number of coins do seem to be over 30.
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June 03, 2018, 06:30:11 PM

I’m early to mid 30’s. Won’t reveal my exact age but yeah, those of us with a half decent number of coins do seem to be over 30.

I'd like to believe that the majority of twenty-something year olds out there are learning about the Fed and central banking corruption, the world of finance, investing and saving extra money instead of acquiring more debt, and buying bitcoin like crazy, etc.

But historical patterns of age-related behavior tell us something different.  Undecided
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exciting and creepy at the same time...like having a boner you are ashamed of

Going on the average age of posters in this thread, there's no longer such a thing as a boner to be ashamed of any more for most. All of them are a gift.
It's weird to think of myself as young in the post-mid-30s bracket, but I have noticed the same thing.

I’m early to mid 30’s. Won’t reveal my exact age but yeah, those of us with a half decent number of coins do seem to be over 30.

Always the same problem : More boners, less coins. More coins less boners... .
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June 03, 2018, 06:37:00 PM

I’m early to mid 30’s. Won’t reveal my exact age but yeah, those of us with a half decent number of coins do seem to be over 30.

I'd like to think that the majority of twenty-something year olds out there are learning about finance, investing and saving extra money, buying bitcoin like crazy, etc.

But historical patterns of age-related behavior tell us something different.  Undecided
Of course they are bloody well not. They are being stupid teenagers, well into their 20s, just as I was.

Due to the ease and safety we live in, people are staying kids well past when they should or ever did. The few of us here? Either old enough to have lived in a harder time, or extremely fucking lucky to have experienced bad shit that advanced our brain development.
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June 03, 2018, 06:45:45 PM

Who cares? Technology is a genie that once let out of the bottle can not be put back in. It will be with us forever. Bureaucrats and systems of record and title transfer come and go. In the long march of time even mountains are reduced to dust by the simple flowing of water. Technology is like the water and Bureaucrats are not even close to being mountains.
No I get what you are saying. Perhaps blockchain will eventually find it's way into a few other places here and there where it makes sense to have it.

Though if the next 30 years go by and I still can't legally transfer a car title to another person for free via a decentralized blockchain solution, it won't mean much sweat to me as I'll probably be close to death anyway, lol.

If it does happen in the next 30 years it will be because political jurisdictions are in a sort of competition with one another. I wouldn't be surprised to see smaller jurisdictions implement as much of this kinda stuff as they can in order to attract expats.

IoT...

 to add and verify any new tills and its effortless for them. 

Idk. This is meme kinda true. But there is a huge range of applications out there where we dont NEED blockchain, but it would still be really cool!

I would love to have my vehicle ownership represented by ...

Yes and in a perfect world, this is how it should work. You should have the power to transfer title of ownership of something you own directly to another party without a third party in the middle. But that's the problem. When state-run Bureaus of Motor Vehicles have centralized control of title issuance, transfer, and registration of motor vehicles, and of course make revenue off of that activity, then why would they ever relinquish that power back to the individual? They would make so many excuses has to why that activity should be state-run and not decentralized.

Also, I wouldn't doubt that state-run BMV's will eventually try to implement some sort of blockchain solution behind the scenes as a 'calling card' to say that they are trying to change and do something. But I don't think it would be more efficient that what they have today.

I believe something like this already exists. Started in 2007 in Estonia, called Keyless security infrastructure. There are companies now trying to use in other markets as well
https://e-estonia.com/solutions/security-and-safety/ksi-blockchain/
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