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I left a comment saying the Bitcoin doesn't need the antiquated SEC and they should take the application and shove it up their old crusty asses.


I hope that helps.

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July 11, 2018, 07:14:56 PM

Hi there,

on crypto twitter are few days that some folks are excited about the possibility of BTC to being approved by ETF or something like that.

Folks are excited because this time the application has been submitted by CBOE that is a huge actor, and they think that because of this this time the application will be not rejected, like last time.

I'm a bit scared because since CBOE launched their features the price didnt go anywhere but down.

Please let me understand why this time will be different and why it is a good news for BTC
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July 11, 2018, 07:16:26 PM

Still looking good for the Engeland supporters ..... fingers crossed for good ending and to take down the cup.... let football go home if iT ain’t go’s to belgium Grin
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July 11, 2018, 07:16:36 PM

I hope that helps.

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How could you?

This is what we need more of - https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-cboebzx-2018-040/cboebzx2018040-4016099-167307.htm

Note the insight, the critical thinking, the sheer elegance and persuasiveness. I predict weeping in the halls of the SEC after this is read out loud.
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July 11, 2018, 07:20:06 PM

https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/02/browser-maker-opera-has-filed-to-go-public/
big investor is Bitmain https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1737450/000114420418036749/tv496863-f1.htm
will have a (an ETH) wallet https://blogs.opera.com/mobile/2018/07/opera-launches-first-browser-with-built-in-crypto-wallet/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/opera-becomes-first-major-web-browser-to-include-native-crypto-wallet
bitmain also hugely invested in deep learning https://sophon.ai/product/introduce/sc1.html

hey presto end-to-end financial surveillance
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we had a bit of a dip, all the way down to where we were over a week ago...$6393USD/$8390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Why does this always seem (lately) to happen when I'm short on cash to buy more coins?

I can't bitch though. It's only money and I'm not impoverished quite yet.

maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.

Given 2014/15, there is a historical precedent.  I just hope if we are going that low, it's faster this time - grinding down and only hitting bottom in early 2019 would be tough.

Sooner, please.

That's what I meant. Inb4, I don't want to rush touchy badgers, but please.


Even with your "inb4," you are not going to avert the honey, this time.






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July 11, 2018, 07:27:24 PM

yeah man like fuck the police (SEC) yo

also market crash https://www.facebook.com/TheMuscleCars/videos/457616434705137/
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we had a bit of a dip, all the way down to where we were over a week ago...$6393USD/$8390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Why does this always seem (lately) to happen when I'm short on cash to buy more coins?

I can't bitch though. It's only money and I'm not impoverished quite yet.

maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.

From 20xxx to 12xxx to 6xxx. All nonsense.

You surely like to focus on the negative.   Are you like this in real life, too?  Draining, no?   Is your name Tera bera?   Roll Eyes
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July 11, 2018, 07:42:52 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 
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July 11, 2018, 07:46:30 PM

I hope the CME explode and that all those bastards forcing gmos on the world pay with everything they owned.

death to the cme.

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edit: bisq trading as usual. https://bisq.network/
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Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.
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July 11, 2018, 07:48:37 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

fucking OT, the CME is burning down !!! what is going on? like peon you watch soccer? you are all suckers... Smiley
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Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT
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Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

I hope the pedo player of the pedo dungeon (england) the country who jailed dankula and his dog, the girl who wrote shit, tommy robinson who denounced rape gangs... LOSE

but I guess, they anglos, like most of you... so you are like them and have support them.

fuck england and it's supporter.

you are all with the pedos.
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Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

I hope the pedo player of the pedo dungeon (england) the country who jailed dankula and his dog, the girl who wrote shit, tommy robinson who denounced rape gangs... LOSE

but I guess, they anglos, like most of you... so you are like them and have support them.

fuck england and it's supporter.

you are all with the pedos.


Wtf think Just sport and players ....... idiot
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we had a bit of a dip, all the way down to where we were over a week ago...$6393USD/$8390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Why does this always seem (lately) to happen when I'm short on cash to buy more coins?

I can't bitch though. It's only money and I'm not impoverished quite yet.

maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.

Well, ofcourse I'm wishing it to dip to 3xxx levels to get some cheap coins, but I'll buy some more anyways whatever the price. And I'm too scared to sell anything in this market, just buying.


It does not hurt to sell a bit, depending on how the matter plays out.

For example:  Let's use some round numbers and say that you have about 10 Bitcoins in your stash, and you have about $6,300.  You also might have a bit of a cash flow of $200 per month extra that you can put into your bitcoin fiat stash.  

In this case, when the price went down to $5,800, you may have bought somewhere between $500 and $1,000, which might be a reasonable and suitable purchase based on your total holdings.  Therefore when the price goes up, you might decide to sell in increments of $500 or something like that - selling $50 or $100 at $6,500, $7k, $7,500, $8k - and with the amount that you bought and the hypothetical increments that I provided you would be able to sell in 10 increments, which would take your sales up to $11,500 - before you would run out of money from that one purchase... And, don't tell me that you will not have opportunities to buy some of that back again between here and $11,500.

Of course, you can employ some other variation of such an incrementalist plan and still be able to reasonably 1) sell some small amounts of BTC at these prices, 2) to prepare yourself to buy (if the price falls between here and $11,500), which seems quite likely) and 3) because of your already existing stash also keeping yourself prepared for further upside BTC prices, if they happen by shooting beyond $11,500 (which is a real pie in the sky scenario because one of the most certainties in bitcoin is that we are likely to experience quite a few corrections along the way, even when we are experiencing an exponential up period).

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maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.
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Well, ofcourse I'm wishing it to dip to 3xxx levels to get some cheap coins, but I'll buy some more anyways whatever the price. And I'm too scared to sell anything in this market, just buying.

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Yes, I made that mistake once and never again. Of course after you miss out on 500X profit you missed the train and it ain't never coming back.
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Even in bitcoin, it has tended to take a long fucking time for 500x profits to play out, so if you are into bitcoin and you attempt to accumulate, even if you screw up a lot, you still should be able to get a decent amount of that 500x increases, if you error on the side of largely holding and attempting to accumulate in reasonable (rather than gambling) ways.

Even, since I have been in Bitcoin (which is since late 2013), the best case scenarios are buying around $150 and selling $19,666 (which would be around 130x), and of course you could trade BTC to bring your ratio up, but I just don't think that it is practical to expect average folks to be able to get that high in their returns or even engaging in a kind of pure purchasing and selling at the top and bottom would result in such an average of 130x, which does not seem realistic, even if it could happen in outlying cases.

Even having an overall return rate of 10x in this current market seems like a good play.. which would be average costs per BTC around $630 when the current price is $6,300 - but even if your costs are above $1,000, you might consider yourself as in a very decent place, right now.

From here, another 10x, would put prices at $63k and 100x would be at $630k, and neither of those are unreasonable, even though it could take 1 year to 10 years to play out.. perhaps 1 year, just to break into the range - even though it is also possible (but seeming quite unlikely, currently) that BTC could break into new ATHs by this calendar year.

I guess that part of my point is that there are few BTC folks sitting in 500x profits, and striving for such may be a bit unrealistic, because there are quite a few ways to plan your entry points into BTC while providing yourself with decent chances to retain and maintain a BTC portfolio that is quite a bit more good chances of profitable than many other investments (perhaps even the vast majority of other possible investments)
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July 11, 2018, 08:00:26 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

I hope the pedo player of the pedo dungeon (england) the country who jailed dankula and his dog, the girl who wrote shit, tommy robinson who denounced rape gangs... LOSE

but I guess, they anglos, like most of you... so you are like them and have support them.

fuck england and it's supporter.

you are all with the pedos.


Wtf think Just sport and players ....... idiot

at least the Croats are all Croats...

Wtf it is 8100 right now what is happening there?

WEX currently has 20% withdrawal fees on USD and EUR, after they removed a few offramps. It was normal until last week, then slowly went to 9%, then 15%, then 20% today.

Notice that as withdrawal fees approach 100%, everything will moon. May or may not be a wexit scam after the exchange may or may not have been sold.

so many new exchanges have popped up... there will be a big elimination coming... trust the old ones, those who never been hacked and let the suckers do the debugging and join the quest for the best DEX.
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