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you guys are killing me...I got tears in my eyes here...



it's maybe a good thing I'm out of merits, as there is no way I would have enough for all the deserving posts in the last few pages
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October 18, 2018, 07:51:01 PM

Bill Gates is not a good man, don't let his "charitable foundation" fool you.  Him ans his buttbuddy Warren Buffet have an allegiance with the central banks and stand to lose a lot of money if bitcoin falls.
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October 18, 2018, 07:54:23 PM

=never saw this one been made ? xhomerx work?

Of course. Well, xhomerx10, anyhoo. Was signing off for the day, thread seemed cluttered with hat requests and fulfillments, we used the PM sideband.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg46997681#msg46997681

See? Sidechains are a good thing.

I guess. Sideband, sidechain ... not exactly equivalent.

Know what else isn't exactly equivalent? Liquid and a sidechain implementation.

O.k.  I will bite.

Do we really care about some of these details about liquid and even lightning network?  They are still being built, tested and for the foreseeable future, they remain optional.  no?  Maybe some day down the road, they will become mandatory?   Currently, they seem to serve as side projects (even if they are not official "sidechains", whatever that means?

Dude are you suffering from acute hat-madness maybe?? Don't you see you are giving jbreher too much ammo with that "Maybe some day down the road, they will become mandatory?"

I see it coming............

hahahaha...   After I posted, I did notice that you had responded to that same jbreher post, and pretty much said all the things that I said - except for the "down the road" / "mandatory" part.  Hahahahahaha 

It seems that those bitcoin naysayers and alt coin pumpers can fuck themselves.... We can already write them off as whining about almost everything and anything, which trivializes any possible good point that they might make somewhere in the mix of their ongoing irrelevant and immaterial whinings.

Further, I doubt that I am saying anything new - because I am pretty sure that I had already read or heard several representations of ideas that pretty much say the same thing as what I was attempting to say, but using different words.... so in that regard, it should be quite obvious that the more and more good concepts and practices get widely adopted in bitcoin on the main chain or on side chains or second or third layers, then they could likely end up getting absorbed into the main bitcoin infrastructure in one way or another....   Actually, given the seeming ongoing softfork preferences of core (and seemingly the vast majority of the bitcoin community), it seems that options are largely going to be available - which causes more empowerment in choosing when, how and the extent to which you want to use any particular aspect of bitcoin - even though bitcoin naysayers, attackers and altcoin pumpers tend to misrepresent (on an ongoing basis) and act as if something that is some minor happening or possibility is the essence of bitcoin -  even if it is only used by a small percentage of the bitcoin community or is optional, as we already discussed.
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October 18, 2018, 08:24:50 PM
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Metapost: I've been sorta-kinda looking into the idea of having my cremated ashes loaded onto a rocket, and shot into Sol, upon my passing. Rick will get at least 50% of my ashes, tho.

Can't be done for less than ~$5M USD at this time - for the sake of argument.

Then I think about how much that $5M could be put to use supporting my sibling's children.

But what if they turn out to be "unworthy" of what I leave behind ? What if my nieces and nephews turn out to be complete degenerates (hey you, stop snickering. I know what you are thinking) and don't deserve 50% of my estate ?

First World Problems.

EDIT: Also, depression has set in again. About to crack open beer #5. Bleh. What toy to play with next in my studio...

I understand this problem, and worry about the same things with my very own kids.  I also don't want to leave them with something that stops them from becoming fulfilled.

As to the studio gear... it's weird.  For my professional career I was UAD guy.  But recently I have been collecting Waves plugins. Their new pricing model is appealing.  S/W not H/W, but I have enough gear for now...  not as nice as some of your stuff... but ah well...
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October 18, 2018, 08:30:56 PM

I'm calling 14k price for the end of this year.
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October 18, 2018, 08:31:20 PM

=never saw this one been made ? xhomerx work?

Of course. Well, xhomerx10, anyhoo. Was signing off for the day, thread seemed cluttered with hat requests and fulfillments, we used the PM sideband.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.msg46997681#msg46997681

See? Sidechains are a good thing.

I guess. Sideband, sidechain ... not exactly equivalent.

Know what else isn't exactly equivalent? Liquid and a sidechain implementation.

O.k.  I will bite.

Do we really care about some of these details about liquid and even lightning network?  They are still being built, tested and for the foreseeable future, they remain optional.  no?  Maybe some day down the road, they will become mandatory?   Currently, they seem to serve as side projects (even if they are not official "sidechains", whatever that means?

Dude are you suffering from acute hat-madness maybe?? Don't you see you are giving jbreher too much ammo with that "Maybe some day down the road, they will become mandatory?"

I see it coming............

Haha@ I'll refrain...








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...wait for it....



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October 18, 2018, 08:31:44 PM

Oh great now we are going back down. Reaaally should have thought twice before dropping acid. Also I really should not be anywhere near bitmex right now. You guys need to keep reminding me not to sell, ok?

Did you know what everything we use as energy is really just a product of our sun?  All the energy we store up and change from one form to another, blowing pinwheels that produce our electricity.  Even the power that is spent mining bitcoins, which are just an idea bound by math (which is just another idea), comes from the sun.

The energy of the sun, stored as ideas, traded as value.

Om.

All you know and love, The fundamental building blocks you are made of, are popping in and out of existence all the time. Can you imagine that? Sometimes you exist, sometimes you don't. In fact, the entire universe just popped into existence. It should have popped out again, but for some reason we don't know yet, there was an imbalance between matter and antimatter. Matter and antimatter should have canceled each other out. But here we are, living in a world that is expanding faster and faster. What happens when the expansion starts slowing down? Or stops? You are the universe observing itself and asking these questions.


OK I am freaking out. Gunna go clean the bathroom. When you guys drop acid do your fingertips get cold too?



What was before the universe popped into existence? Where did the matter and dark matter come from? Can there be life made of dark matter, where matter is the "mysterious" one? I doubt things are really over with us expanding into oblivion, where protons, neutrons and electrons never meet again, there might be just a new start, maybe in a totally different way. I also doubt that water only is the single source of life like mainstream science suggests, there might be endless possibilities. One thing is for sure, universe is full of life. Brain goes on fire thinking of that subject, guess it's too much to cope with.

The whole body seems to get a bit colder when dropping acid, that might be just due to overall rise in sensitivity. Good to know there are some other psychonauts around here Smiley
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October 18, 2018, 08:33:09 PM

I'm calling 14k price for the end of this year.

Can’t see what would be big enough news to pump that price that much this year (this year as in the rest of October, November & December).

I’d love you to be right though.
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October 18, 2018, 08:36:35 PM
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The energy of the sun, stored as ideas, traded as value.

Metapost: I've been sorta-kinda looking into the idea of having my cremated ashes loaded onto a rocket, and shot into Sol, upon my passing. Rick will get at least 50% of my ashes, tho.

Can't be done for less than ~$5M USD at this time - for the sake of argument.

Then I think about how much that $5M could be put to use supporting my sibling's children.

But what if they turn out to be "unworthy" of what I leave behind ? What if my nieces and nephews turn out to be complete degenerates (hey you, stop snickering. I know what you are thinking) and don't deserve 50% of my estate ?

First World Problems.

EDIT: Also, depression has set in again. About to crack open beer #5. Bleh. What toy to play with next in my studio...

I understand this problem, and worry about the same things with my very own kids.  I also don't want to leave them with something that stops them from becoming fulfilled.

As to the studio gear... it's weird.  For my professional career I was UAD guy.  But recently I have been collecting Waves plugins. Their new pricing model is appealing.  S/W not H/W, but I have enough gear for now...  not as nice as some of your stuff... but ah well...


I like the idea of a trust fund. One idea is just to have it match whatever the kids make, dollar per dollar, if they're working. If they're not working, it pays out the equivalent of what they'd get from unemployment benefits.
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October 18, 2018, 08:39:46 PM
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Oh great now we are going back down. Reaaally should have thought twice before dropping acid. Also I really should not be anywhere near bitmex right now. You guys need to keep reminding me not to sell, ok?

Did you know what everything we use as energy is really just a product of our sun?  All the energy we store up and change from one form to another, blowing pinwheels that produce our electricity.  Even the power that is spent mining bitcoins, which are just an idea bound by math (which is just another idea), comes from the sun.

The energy of the sun, stored as ideas, traded as value.

Om.

All you know and love, The fundamental building blocks you are made of, are popping in and out of existence all the time. Can you imagine that? Sometimes you exist, sometimes you don't. In fact, the entire universe just popped into existence. It should have popped out again, but for some reason we don't know yet, there was an imbalance between matter and antimatter. Matter and antimatter should have canceled each other out. But here we are, living in a world that is expanding faster and faster. What happens when the expansion starts slowing down? Or stops? You are the universe observing itself and asking these questions.


OK I am freaking out. Gunna go clean the bathroom. When you guys drop acid do your fingertips get cold too?



What was before the universe popped into existence? Where did the matter and dark matter come from? Can there be life made of dark matter, where matter is the "mysterious" one? I doubt things are really over with us expanding into oblivion, where protons, neutrons and electrons never meet again, there might be just a new start, maybe in a totally different way. I also doubt that water only is the single source of life like mainstream science suggests, there might be endless possibilities. One thing is for sure, universe is full of life. Brain goes on fire thinking of that subject, guess it's too much to cope with.

The whole body seems to get a bit colder when dropping acid, that might be just due to overall rise in sensitivity. Good to know there are some other psychonauts around here Smiley


A while back, there was the idea being thrown around of a WO Vegas party to celebrate $100K.  Instead, we could all just meet up wearing our avatar hats and drop acid. What could go wrong?
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October 18, 2018, 08:43:24 PM

All you know and love, The fundamental building blocks you are made of, are popping in and out of existence all the time. Can you imagine that? Sometimes you exist, sometimes you don't. In fact, the entire universe just popped into existence. It should have popped out again, but for some reason we don't know yet, there was an imbalance between matter and antimatter. Matter and antimatter should have canceled each other out. But here we are, living in a world that is expanding faster and faster. What happens when the expansion starts slowing down? Or stops? You are the universe observing itself and asking these questions.


OK I am freaking out. Gunna go clean the bathroom. When you guys drop acid do your fingertips get cold too?



What was before the universe popped into existence? Where did the matter and dark matter come from? Can there be life made of dark matter, where matter is the "mysterious" one? I doubt things are really over with us expanding into oblivion, where protons, neutrons and electrons never meet again, there might be just a new start, maybe in a totally different way. I also doubt that water only is the single source of life like mainstream science suggests, there might be endless possibilities. One thing is for sure, universe is full of life. Brain goes on fire thinking of that subject, guess it's too much to cope with.

The whole body seems to get a bit colder when dropping acid, that might be just due to overall rise in sensitivity. Good to know there are some other psychonauts around here Smiley


A while back, there was the idea being thrown around of a WO Vegas party to celebrate $100K.  Instead, we could all just meet up wearing our avatar hats and drop acid. What could go wrong?

The heads in this forum united together on acid? It might be even more revolutionary than Bitcoin itself. The hats would probably give an extra brain boost Cheesy
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Of course, you can draw lines however you like, but I find it a bit less realistic and predictive if you start from the extreme top, because the top was such an extreme (not conceding blow off top yet, except as a short term blow off top... which was about a two months time period that arguably provided the base for that), so perhaps, instead the top of the resistance line might start from the $15k territory or so and therefore end up touching more of the subsequent BTC price peaks (early march and early may, for example)?

Whatever works for you and produces actionable data.  

For me, our failure to break away from the red long term downtrend line (so far) tells me we are still in a bear market.  That’s all I need to know.

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Oh great now we are going back down. Reaaally should have thought twice before dropping acid. Also I really should not be anywhere near bitmex right now. You guys need to keep reminding me not to sell, ok?

Did you know what everything we use as energy is really just a product of our sun?  All the energy we store up and change from one form to another, blowing pinwheels that produce our electricity.  Even the power that is spent mining bitcoins, which are just an idea bound by math (which is just another idea), comes from the sun.

The energy of the sun, stored as ideas, traded as value.

Om.

All you know and love, The fundamental building blocks you are made of, are popping in and out of existence all the time. Can you imagine that? Sometimes you exist, sometimes you don't. In fact, the entire universe just popped into existence. It should have popped out again, but for some reason we don't know yet, there was an imbalance between matter and antimatter. Matter and antimatter should have canceled each other out. But here we are, living in a world that is expanding faster and faster. What happens when the expansion starts slowing down? Or stops? You are the universe observing itself and asking these questions.


OK I am freaking out. Gunna go clean the bathroom. When you guys drop acid do your fingertips get cold too?



What was before the universe popped into existence? Where did the matter and dark matter come from? Can there be life made of dark matter, where matter is the "mysterious" one? I doubt things are really over with us expanding into oblivion, where protons, neutrons and electrons never meet again, there might be just a new start, maybe in a totally different way. I also doubt that water only is the single source of life like mainstream science suggests, there might be endless possibilities. One thing is for sure, universe is full of life. Brain goes on fire thinking of that subject, guess it's too much to cope with.

The whole body seems to get a bit colder when dropping acid, that might be just due to overall rise in sensitivity. Good to know there are some other psychonauts around here Smiley


A while back, there was the idea being thrown around of a WO Vegas party to celebrate $100K.  Instead, we could all just meet up wearing our avatar hats and drop acid. What could go wrong?

What should yefi do, meet up with us wearing his avatar underpants?

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October 18, 2018, 08:52:32 PM

Actually, given the seeming ongoing softfork preferences of core (and seemingly the vast majority of the bitcoin community), it seems that options are largely going to be available

Exactly backwards. Soft forks do not provide options. Nay, soft forks are mandatory go-along-to-get-alongs.
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Of course, you can draw lines however you like, but I find it a bit less realistic and predictive if you start from the extreme top, because the top was such an extreme (not conceding blow off top yet, except as a short term blow off top... which was about a two months time period that arguably provided the base for that), so perhaps, instead the top of the resistance line might start from the $15k territory or so and therefore end up touching more of the subsequent BTC price peaks (early march and early may, for example)?

Whatever works for you and produces actionable data.  

For me, our failure to break away from the red long term downtrend line (so far) tells me we are still in a bear market.  That’s all I need to know.



You're gonna kill everyone's buzz, man.
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October 18, 2018, 08:55:18 PM

For my professional career I was UAD guy.  But recently I have been collecting Waves plugins. Their new pricing model is appealing.  S/W not H/W...

H/W too. Add some flavor of SoundGrid server, and you've got HW acceleration just like the UAD stuff. And networked IO to boot.
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I like that hat, except I am a little bothered about the negative connotations of the phraseology - ("bitcoin getting forked since 2017") - even though it is factually true.

The essential tentative conclusion of Bitcoin's current forking matter does remain to be that Bitcoin's forking cherry was popped in mid-2017 with the bcash forkening.  Even though that bcash forkening had some purported legitimate reasons, it has largely been used as an attack vector on bitcoin, and also attempts to make some quickie profits from bitcoin's good will (whether successful or not in regards to profits is going to vary from person to person and perhaps regarding the extent to which they used other capital or even real BTC to buy into the shitty bcash snake oil).

So, even if forks had been started on bitcoin in mid-2017 with a lot of imitation variations to follow, these forks have largely shown bitcoin to be quite resilient to that level and kind of bullshiteries, and likely has caused bitcoin to become stronger and the forks to become less valuable (and even laughable).

So the connotation of your hat slogan ("bitcoin getting forked since 2017") seems to mislead about the non-power of the fork within bitcoin and the likely need for any future fork to attempt ramp up their efforts a whole hell-of-a lot more if they really expect to have any semblance of success - seemingly an uphill battle, including a likely inability to overcome (or even come close to) bitcoin in any of the 7 networking effects.  No one with any kind of real and meaningful knowledge in bitcoin really takes the fork threat in bitcoin seriously these days, and perhaps we can thank the stupid-ass bumbling fuckery of the bcash leaders along with the non-successful multiple copy catters, who largely have any real world value beyond merely serving as nominal testing ground platforms for the real deal , aka bitcoin.

By the way, leetlzee, from your earlier forum posts, I had not realized that you are one of those BIG blocker fucktards who are whining about the direction of bitcoin and think that you have some supposedly better ideas, without necessarily figuring out a way in which you might be able to work towards submitting a BIP or getting someone to submit a BIP, instead of serving as a nonsense FUD spreader.
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October 18, 2018, 09:25:02 PM

Sounds like someone is insecure and overcompensating.

Sounds like someone doesn't know their memes.

Whoa! Nice hat Yefi!
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October 18, 2018, 09:30:16 PM

Sounds like someone is insecure and overcompensating.

Sounds like someone doesn't know their memes.

Whoa! Nice hat Yefi!
Gotta love this thread.
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What should yefi do, meet up with us wearing his avatar underpants?

edit: I retract my statement about you fine gentleman raping me (I know you still would though).

Whoa! Nice hat Yefi!

Thx  Tongue
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