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December 03, 2018, 12:44:19 PM


Do you understand what a soviet style collapse implies?

Stalin, 50 million dead. Mao, even more, maybe as high as 100 million. Cambodia, a full third of the population died. And on and on. Two hundred million corpses give or take.

The EU wants an army, and at this rate they will get it. It will be used against the civilian population, just as the above gentlemen did.

Thousands of migrants are heading to the US border. They will be gunned down if they try to cross, or more will come, and it will never stop. In europe they are already here and entrenched. EU wants to make criticism of immigration illegal, and again, it will likely happen.

And of course we all know how the economy is doing.

If the US ends up losing its global leadership position, that will lead to chaos on a global scale as the power vacuum is filled by someone else.

It's a perfect storm of all the things that can go wrong all at once, and there are no positives of any meaningful impact.

What I am not sure is what the exact problem that would inevitably lead in a collapse of epic proportions is. Economic collapse? Inmigration? Something else?

I can see factors and cycles, yeah, but I still don't see that "perfect storm" you are talking about.
All of it. Each is a problem but they magnify eachother. Even without mass immigration the economy would collapse because socialism is not sustainable. With them, people will starve and civil war will break out. Then add narcissistic politicians with armies. Political power is a more potent drug than cocaine, and they will do anything to hold on to it.
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December 03, 2018, 12:47:13 PM

An alternative would be if we stayed around this range for a couple of months, maybe even some more.... that would probably signal this as the true bottom.

What do you guys think about that? Plausible?
Hate to say it but personally I won't feel the slightest capitulation until we drop below the last ATH.


The only time that has happened is 2013 afaik, and I count 2013 as a single peak so it doesn't count for me.
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December 03, 2018, 12:49:39 PM

Beautiful hats I hope to get one, but I'm not sure how it happens, my MaineCoon cat would look great in a hat. Cool

You're just a tad green. Keep it up and you'll get your hat in no time. We have a first class mad hatter here.

Thank you !!!

(I am sorry for the off topic)

Hats have become a small part of the topic and in a near future Will be a hatcarrier as well perhaps Wink

Its just a small WO hodl train on that pic.... who’s gonna stop that ??
To much force in there

When you gained enough merit.... comrade XhomerX might hook you up with one of the finest HATS
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December 03, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
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More negativity and FUD from MSM. Prepping the cows for the upcoming milking?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-is-close-to-becoming-worthless-2018-12-03

Shorting mates, be safe and tight.
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December 03, 2018, 12:55:04 PM

As something of a connoisseur, I can say that is a truly fine Molotov hit.

Perfect mix (it's all about how much air you leave in the bottle, very touchy), excellent delivery, and superlative documentation.

9.5/10
I'm not sure I get that. Was there a link that got edited out?
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December 03, 2018, 12:55:10 PM

Beautiful hats I hope to get one, but I'm not sure how it happens, my MaineCoon cat would look great in a hat. Cool

You're just a tad green. Keep it up and you'll get your hat in no time. We have a first class mad hatter here.

Thank you !!!

(I am sorry for the off topic)

Hats have become a small part of the topic and in a near future Will be a hatcarrier as well perhaps Wink

Its just a small WO hodl train on that pic.... who’s gonna stop that ??
To much force in there

When you gained enough merit.... comrade XhomerX might hook you up with one of the finest HATS

I have merit and no hat Kiss
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December 03, 2018, 12:55:20 PM


Do you understand what a soviet style collapse implies?

Stalin, 50 million dead. Mao, even more, maybe as high as 100 million. Cambodia, a full third of the population died. And on and on. Two hundred million corpses give or take.

The EU wants an army, and at this rate they will get it. It will be used against the civilian population, just as the above gentlemen did.

Thousands of migrants are heading to the US border. They will be gunned down if they try to cross, or more will come, and it will never stop. In europe they are already here and entrenched. EU wants to make criticism of immigration illegal, and again, it will likely happen.

And of course we all know how the economy is doing.

If the US ends up losing its global leadership position, that will lead to chaos on a global scale as the power vacuum is filled by someone else.

It's a perfect storm of all the things that can go wrong all at once, and there are no positives of any meaningful impact.

What I am not sure is what the exact problem that would inevitably lead in a collapse of epic proportions is. Economic collapse? Inmigration? Something else?

I can see factors and cycles, yeah, but I still don't see that "perfect storm" you are talking about.
All of it. Each is a problem but they magnify eachother. Even without mass immigration the economy would collapse because socialism is not sustainable. With them, people will starve and civil war will break out. Then add narcissistic politicians with armies. Political power is a more potent drug than cocaine, and they will do anything to hold on to it.

the deficit is intentional, some people benefit the rest for them obeyed. If everyone refuses any action than will restored Paradise, will change the laws of physics, and food to housing will not even be needed. The universe is a mirror of our mood, any help creates a need for it, so that the helper can show help. Good is also is evil because it creates it. God is in every person, we are perfect, we create the events only by our mood, but dark forces is beneficial to keep us in the delusion that we do only what is advantageous to them. It is not even beneficial to them, they just do not understand that happiness is not in power, but inside
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December 03, 2018, 12:58:34 PM

as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
I, for one, would be pickier about my hookers.
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December 03, 2018, 12:59:13 PM

As something of a connoisseur, I can say that is a truly fine Molotov hit.

Perfect mix (it's all about how much air you leave in the bottle, very touchy), excellent delivery, and superlative documentation.

9.5/10
I'm not sure I get that. Was there a link that got edited out?
The burning policethug a few posts beforehand.
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December 03, 2018, 01:00:19 PM

I have merit and no hat Kiss

Have you asked nicely and provided a decent sized picture of your liking?
I haven't ever noticed Homer leaving a fellow WO-er hatless for long.
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December 03, 2018, 01:01:03 PM

As something of a connoisseur, I can say that is a truly fine Molotov hit.

Perfect mix (it's all about how much air you leave in the bottle, very touchy), excellent delivery, and superlative documentation.

9.5/10
I'm not sure I get that. Was there a link that got edited out?
The burning policethug a few posts beforehand.
Thanks. I'm a dimwit today.
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December 03, 2018, 01:02:07 PM

My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?
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Shorting mates, be safe and tight.


Don't care for that shit either.
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My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?
I wouldn't, either, but you know, hodlers be hodling.
The adoption hit would be something.
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December 03, 2018, 01:04:57 PM

Thanks. I'm a dimwit today.
agreed
It's almost too easy, shorting this thing down to 0. There must be some shakeout retribution or this is not bitcoin. I'm betting on it.

It’s not *that* easy.  Don’t sell yourself short.  
Well it might be not that easy to get the absolute maximum out of it, but even a somewhat sloppy attitude still allows the careful guy to get along well, with some lost profit on the theoretical max of course.

I still stand by my gut feeling - which after due digestion gets to SOMA status - that some swift, cruel short rekting is around the corner.
Hairy made a funny-but-wise and you seemed to have missed it, or certainly not lolled enough.
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December 03, 2018, 01:18:17 PM

My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?
I wouldn't, either, but you know, hodlers be hodling.
The adoption hit would be something.

Can you leave me my wishful thinking?
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December 03, 2018, 01:19:06 PM

Read where DOW Futures point to an opening 500 points higher this morning.  So.. those same people probably will be pushing up the price of bitcoin.  Have a tight stop on shorts if you are in them now.  

Also that dude in the article is a crackpot. LOL He totally missed the entire point of crytocurrency.   Plus stating the tulip thing is soooo stupid.  Just a medium of value exchange anywhere in the world is a huge point he missed entirely.    
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December 03, 2018, 01:35:30 PM

Hairy made a funny-but-wise and you seemed to have missed it, or certainly not lolled enough.
I did get the 'selling short' bit, but I wanted to make a point because my SOMA system has been beeping for hours. Which makes me less inclined to lol.

That doesn't detract from my dimwit state. It's been a hard weekend.
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December 03, 2018, 01:37:09 PM

Beautiful hats I hope to get one, but I'm not sure how it happens, my MaineCoon cat would look great in a hat. Cool

You're just a tad green. Keep it up and you'll get your hat in no time. We have a first class mad hatter here.

Thank you !!!

(I am sorry for the off topic)

Hats have become a small part of the topic and in a near future Will be a hatcarrier as well perhaps Wink

Its just a small WO hodl train on that pic.... who’s gonna stop that ??
To much force in there

When you gained enough merit.... comrade XhomerX might hook you up with one of the finest HATS

I have merit and no hat Kiss
Provide XhomerX a photo with Pm or post a photo or anything he Will create something when he have the time
He’s the master of the HATS
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December 03, 2018, 01:42:39 PM

More negativity and FUD from MSM. Prepping the cows for the upcoming milking?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-is-close-to-becoming-worthless-2018-12-03

Shorting mates, be safe and tight.


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