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May 29, 2019, 06:59:00 AM

As someone that has some macro economics background and who is also married to a Japanese woman I'm going to ignore the profound stupidity presented in this thread.  

You completely ignored the fact (as I mention in my post above) that in a vacuum, if you allocate 50% of the resources to men and 50% to women, the male group is always going to vastly outperform the female group to the point where you can almost consider women holding any resources at all malinvestment for a civilization that's trying to compete against other civilizations.  Then factor in women have no interest in marrying men who are poorer than they are and you're self destructing your own civilization on purpose by trying to artificially rig some 'equitable' outcome.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't even pass a typical Japanese high school math entrance exam.   That isn't that high of a bar either.   It is a profoundly sad truth that idiots don't know they are idiots. 
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May 29, 2019, 07:03:47 AM

As someone that has some macro economics background and who is also married to a Japanese woman I'm going to ignore the profound stupidity presented in this thread.  

You completely ignored the fact (as I mention in my post above) that in a vacuum, if you allocate 50% of the resources to men and 50% to women, the male group is always going to vastly outperform the female group to the point where you can almost consider women holding any resources at all malinvestment for a civilization that's trying to compete against other civilizations.  Then factor in women have no interest in marrying men who are poorer than they are and you're self destructing your own civilization on purpose by trying to artificially rig some 'equitable' outcome.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't even pass a typical Japanese high school math entrance exam.   That isn't that high of a bar either.   It is a profoundly sad truth that idiots don't know they are idiots.  

You're not very good at macro-anything if you think what I said is not true.  You will need to stick to micro.
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May 29, 2019, 07:04:17 AM

You are a smart guy.  You have designed hardware storage controllers.  How on earth do you not see the amazing bullshit happening right before your eyes???

Jbreher is not a hardware storage disigner that was a blatant lie ...lol.

Well, I never used the term 'hardware storage designer' on this board. Yet there it is. Of course, I designed hardware storage controllers decades ago. My more recent work is more significant than that.

Get yourself a clue, Paashaas. You're proudly displaying your arrogance-ignorance again.
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like it has for long periods before you mean?  Like when miners mined at a loss? like when they had to folk it to reduce the sha256 hash power so that the price could keep up with the profit curve, with countless forks thereafter.   Like when they have to hire an army of bull trolls to maintain the bull phase .  Like when they have to DDOS multiple sites, log multiple people out of trading accounts during breakouts to make it work?  or are you discussing something different? 


you actually believe that "hiring bull trolls" keeps the price of bitcoin rising?   i want to be hired! Cheesy
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May 29, 2019, 07:10:05 AM

You are a smart guy.  You have designed hardware storage controllers.  How on earth do you not see the amazing bullshit happening right before your eyes???

Jbreher is not a hardware storage disigner that was a blatant lie ...lol.

Even if he is, it doesn't mean anything. OTOH, being associated with, or supporting the work endorsed by Wright, Ver, Wu and Ayre can tell a lot about a person's motives, morals, and overall attitude towards Bitcoin and what it stands for.

OK, Mr/Ms high-and-mighty. Are you absolutely sure that each and every thing that you support is endorsed by exactly zero characters of ill repute?

(Well, you said "Wright, Ver, Wu and Ayre". Accordingly, feel free to substitute 'less than four' for 'exactly zero' above)
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May 29, 2019, 07:10:30 AM

Like when they have to hire an army of bull trolls to maintain the bull phase.

you actually believe that "hiring bull trolls" keeps the price of bitcoin rising?   i want to be hired! Cheesy

*Most* of the Bitcoin shills are not hired.  It's simply a crowd sourced pump and dump scam by shitters hoping to erase 20 years of bad decision making by purchasing an imaginary, valueless token.  Although at the earlier stages of Bitcoin the shilling was done almost entirely by people like Andreas Antonopolous.  He's obviously not traveling ALL OVER the place giving those speeches for free.  He was/is a paid Bitcoin shill.  I'd be interested to know just who all was paying him to shill besides the ones that have already admitted it like Roger Ver.  Wouldn't be suprised to see some Larry Summers money and other evil Jews in there.
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May 29, 2019, 07:11:40 AM

Hmm. Market's gone a little fucky.
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I have a few sample choices for you sir Cheesy

https://i.imgur.com/sglf4ki.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pexJm56.jpg

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Eeny, meeny, miny, moe, who is the sweetest of them awww...



Aren't japanese getting the LEAST sex in OECD?
Something does not compute.

maybe bc they censor genitals out of their porn? probably also all the QE, it seems the more money your nation prints the lower the birth rate which would mean less sex. Birth rates were way higher before central banking in every first world country. Not much time to smash when you are busy wage cucking to afford ever rising costs as your masters debase your wages.
Women work. Double the workers means half the wages. Basic bitch supply and demand THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF RIDDLE.

Women can be productive, or reproductive. Not both.

Yes, good point, when the man cant support a woman and or children with his wage cuckery due to wages debased every day via money printing, the woman must become a wagecuck as well.

Sound money means women will have more time to look hot and practice blow job skills. Cheesy
More blow jobs mean men are more productive and society improves drastically.
No. Wages went down BECAUSE women work, they are not a reaction to it.

Right, wages do go down when women enter the work force that weren't working before. That basic bitch stuff you brought up and I agree with that basic bitch logic you brought to the table.

Wrong of you to imply women categorically are not entering the work force because of reduced wages from currency debasement.  I earlier laid out a case where women go to work because their husbands or male partners have decreased wages due to currency debasement. Im specifically referring to decreased wages as in decreased purchasing power(debasement) of the said wages, not the actual dollar amount of the wage going down. That should be blatantly obvious imo, but if its what caused confusion then it should be clear now.

Sound money will fix the problem of decreased purchasing power of male wages and will encourage many women to leave the work force since Big Daddy will be bringing home more than enough bacon for many couples. This exodus of large amounts of women will add further pressure to employers to raise wages and as I said earlier, women can focus on things they are best at like looking good and blowjobs.

Sound money wins. Money printers lose.


As someone that has some macro economics background and who is also married to a Japanese woman I'm going to ignore the profound stupidity presented in this thread.  

When there are not enough people in the workforce, productivity on a national level suffers and economies can actually shrink.   That is actually the problem Japan has been facing for some time.     Sexism has actually damaged the economy and it is only very slowly changes.   While it is true that more people going to work can drive down wages, that really isn't important.   What is important is what those wages can buy.   How many hours you have to work to live is actually more important than how much of some variable currency you actually earn.  

In Japan more women are moving into the workplace and more people are working longer.   This last year over 97% of college grads have already started working.   The school year ended in March and by April 1st over 97% were employed.  That is a strong labor market.

Anyway the average woman is a lot smarter than most of the bozos here that can't control their hormones.    

I like how you ignored me with a nice long response full of virtue signaling. Good going smart one. Stupid is to think Japan and its ridiculous money printing hasnt had terrible consequences for the birth rate of the nation. Having all your women in pantsuits and pursuing careers instead of giving birth can be awesome for the economy for a little while, but then demographics kick in and you have a nation of retired old people with no kids.



If the blowjob jokes got you butthurt then maybe lighten up a bit, its not that serious.  Wink
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May 29, 2019, 07:15:00 AM

^Yes, I'm not sure how that guy claims to be good at macro-anything when he completely ignored Japan is the biggest Keynesian dystopia ever created and instead blamed it on partriachal inequality LOL.  The other part is sort of chicken and egg scenario concerning the Keynesianism vs population decline.  Debt based fiats require infinite growth, and the population stopped growing so they require 0% interest rates etc etc.  None of this stuff has anything to do with 'abusive patriarchy'.  The planet simply does not accommodate infinite growth.
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May 29, 2019, 07:19:20 AM

As someone that has some macro economics background and who is also married to a Japanese woman I'm going to ignore the profound stupidity presented in this thread.  

You completely ignored the fact (as I mention in my post above) that in a vacuum, if you allocate 50% of the resources to men and 50% to women, the male group is always going to vastly outperform the female group to the point where you can almost consider women holding any resources at all malinvestment for a civilization that's trying to compete against other civilizations.  Then factor in women have no interest in marrying men who are poorer than they are and you're self destructing your own civilization on purpose by trying to artificially rig some 'equitable' outcome.

I'm pretty sure you couldn't even pass a typical Japanese high school math entrance exam.   That isn't that high of a bar either.   It is a profoundly sad truth that idiots don't know they are idiots. 
You might want to be very very careful with your assertion if all you can and feel like doing is throwing around personal attacks.

We joke about "economics backgrounds" in the same manner you just did by the way.

Economics is one of the biggest Dunning Kruger circle jerks humanity has brought forth so far. Your Nobel prizes are sub-sections of individual questions in multi-question weekly undergraduate assignments in real sciences.


Of course there are some, very few, Economists that are worth their salt. But they're so rare that they might as well be unicorns.
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He's also pushing the false claim that Asians are somehow radically smarter than whites.  In reality, the Japanese and Chinese are just more homogeneous with a very narrow bell curve - meaning almost their whole population is simply centered around average or a little above average.  Whites, on the other hand, have a broader bell curve with lots more really stupid people (JayJuanGee) and more renaissance man geniuses.  It is those renaissance men that are the ones who push civilization forward, not the homogenous, average people.

Average people don't invent the plane, train, automobile, internet, electricity, transistor, and everything else.  Math contests for youth are flooded with Chinese, but they never come in at the top and the top level is always dominated by autistic white kids.  If your entire population is 105 IQ with none higher or lower, what good does it really do you if you need ditch diggers anyway while also still needing people who are way smarter than that?  The main thing the west lacks which the Chinese do is aptitude testing to funnel people into their proper specialty.
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May 29, 2019, 07:40:26 AM

Hmm. Market's gone a little fucky.
Hmm. No change there then
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May 29, 2019, 07:53:08 AM

I find it ironic the head of the PPT resigns almost on the very day that naked shorting metals seems to have almost no effect now (for anyone looking at current metals market where the last smash was mostly pointless).  My target is around $74/oz silver then dump to $50, then up to $120 as the Jew markets start to unravel.  Then eventually something like $10k gold $500 silver in a new Bretton Woods.
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May 29, 2019, 07:54:23 AM

-On the other hand if BTC1MM gets dumped across exchanges, even with a signed message of "i'm not CSW", might bring BTC to its knees.

BTC1M dumped wouldn't change the fundamentals. Bitcoin would bounce right back.


Purely theoretical but BTC1M + short leverage can do a lot of damage. Think of BTC10k dumps every single day for next 100 days. Despite the fake volume, market is pretty illiquid, blockchain would not be usable and not sure if we could get enough miners to mine at a loss long enough to get through this. Or just flood the mempool keeping cost of transaction at $50 for few years
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May 29, 2019, 07:58:05 AM

BITCOIN, Broke the major resistance and going up

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We all know that $BTC has formed an up-trend. However, recently Bitcoin just broke through the major resistance ($8500), exactly from this resistance the market started dumping to $3000 in the 2018 year. This fact makes $BTC growing twice stronger.

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The next closest resistance is located in the zone $9300 - $9400. Moreover, at the 1D chart, RSI has formed a divergence. By the way, Stoch . RSI just came out from the oversold zone, so RSI still has time to form a third top from the resistance (as mentioned on the chart), either it will be a simple double top which is divergence too. The closest support zone is located in the zone $8200 - $8500, there you can confidently open a LONG position.

In case 1-5-ABC pattern will work out, the price will form a H&S pattern that will $BTC dump lower to $6000 levels.


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Today, I have nothing to strive for, since I woke up a millionaire!
It feels like it is not!

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Today, I have nothing to strive for, since I woke up a millionaire!
It feels like it is not!



LoL it really? I think possible edited this like to be. Cheesy
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May 29, 2019, 08:13:08 AM

You are a smart guy.  You have designed hardware storage controllers.  How on earth do you not see the amazing bullshit happening right before your eyes???

Jbreher is not a hardware storage disigner that was a blatant lie ...lol.

Even if he is, it doesn't mean anything. OTOH, being associated with, or supporting the work endorsed by Wright, Ver, Wu and Ayre can tell a lot about a person's motives, morals, and overall attitude towards Bitcoin and what it stands for.

OK, Mr/Ms high-and-mighty. Are you absolutely sure that each and every thing that you support is endorsed by exactly zero characters of ill repute?

(Well, you said "Wright, Ver, Wu and Ayre". Accordingly, feel free to substitute 'less than four' for 'exactly zero' above)

Well, I guess that some of the things one supports could be endorsed by characters of ill repute. After all, many things happen in the background, that we are not aware of. What matters is how we react when we become aware of such characters, and their level of involvement and influence in the things we support.

In the case of BCH and BSV, the evidence of this happening is overwhelming, and those figures I mentioned are at central stage. Frankly, having followed your posts in this thread, I find it difficult to believe that you can remotely agree with (or not at least criticize) the behaviour, actions, and attitude of those people.
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May 29, 2019, 08:15:56 AM
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stock to flow reduction

The "stock to flow" scam chart people are posting are just wannabe pump and scammers.  Such metrics have absolutely zero correlation with Bitcoin as I explained to Anonymint:

As for the whole stock/flow deal, it makes a lot of bad assumptions like assuming the entire planet is willing to be the greater fool for imaginary, valueless bitcoins when they aren't, or that Bitcoin even has a valid Schelling point in the first place when it doesn't.  If S/F was valid for digital shitcoins, there wouldn't be a mountain of dead PoW coins already.

Stock/flow only works on an actual commodity that humans need and NOBODY actually needs Bitcoin.  It's a fake commodity.  If you hoard all 21 million, the entire planet can just ignore you like you don't even exist.  If you hoard all the physical silver, the world doesn't get to ignore you and stock/flow actually functions.  Tricking the goyim to hoard a fake, valueless commodity instead of a real one might be the greatest Jew scam of all time because it grants you absolutely zero power while pretending it does.

I usually don't answer this kind of messages, but I am being called scammer, so I have to clarify.

Stock to flow analysis comes, cutting long story short, from the digital gold analogy: the one I personally think is the best one to explain Bitcoin to a non bitcoiner.
Gold is a commodity with little industrial case (10% of his value), where much of his current market value come form the fact the offer is pretty inelastic to price, due to natural limitation. This is not true for other supposed store of value where scarcity is due to  production chain management, like diamonds, or simply doesn't exists (like silver: otherwise the market cornering by Hunt Bros would have succeeded).

This scarcity caused the gold to thrive as a Store of Value (real purchasing power) trough the centuries. The bet is that in a digitised world, we can find a digital alternative to Gold.

Of course If anyone would buy all the Gold  ever mined the value would drop to zero, as the market value of gold would go to zero, as there wouldn’t be any market in the first place (this is true also in the digital realm, where supercentralised shitcoins tend to have no market value because of absence of floating).

Scarcity is not a sufficient condition for Bitcoin to succeed (as you point correctly, shitcoins are scarce too), rather a necessary condition.
Value from the SF model comes from the fact that fitting the model on very early values (2009-2012, before the first halvening) it still holds true and is true on different assets (Bitcoin, Gold, Silver).

I won't elaborate more, as I don't want to indulge in further conversations.
Call me stupid, call me naive, but being called scammer is unfair and not acceptable..  


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May 29, 2019, 08:21:41 AM

-On the other hand if BTC1MM gets dumped across exchanges, even with a signed message of "i'm not CSW", might bring BTC to its knees.

BTC1M dumped wouldn't change the fundamentals. Bitcoin would bounce right back.


Purely theoretical but BTC1M + short leverage can do a lot of damage. Think of BTC10k dumps every single day for next 100 days. Despite the fake volume, market is pretty illiquid, blockchain would not be usable and not sure if we could get enough miners to mine at a loss long enough to get through this. Or just flood the mempool keeping cost of transaction at $50 for few years

Think that will change anything it wont. Price can manipulated even without dumping. But again this could be only single issue and price could go down but will go back up again.

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