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Question: How much of your corn do you plan on cashing out in the next massive bull run?
None - 27 (20.5%)
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100% - 10 (7.6%)
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June 23, 2019, 11:00:36 PM

Bitcoin sneaks up on people who think they can time the market.



https://twitter.com/bitstein/status/1142057447512612864

Or is that r0ach on that floor??
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June 23, 2019, 11:19:31 PM
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Good afternoon all

Hope everyone got out and blew the stink off yourselves. I sure did, the upper Methow is stunning right now even if still wet and cold.


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A new yearly high at $11,247.62 has been observed with consolidation taking place currently at around $10.8k
Substantial support appears to be developing above the 0.5 long fib at $10,414.5
Continued GAINZ are forecast until at least the end of the month with consolidation and accumulation zones appearing around the 4th of July holiday.
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June 23, 2019, 11:27:42 PM
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oh, core scientific...

https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/crypto-news/product-release/astral-ar-and-core-scientific-partners-to-integrate-monero-mining-software-on-safety-drones/
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Core Scientific’s CTO, Kristy-Leigh Minehan

Kristy-Leigh Minehan, the woman who managed to screw a lot of people by walking away and abandoning her company, mineority,  leaving behind unpaid employees, unfinished projects, broken promises, "misplaced" ethereum (and/or holding it instead of selling it as needed for operations). the "ohgodagirl" of "ohgodacompany" who screwed over squirrelsresearch and its customers.

yup. what could go wrong?

full disclosure: im a customer of squirrelsresearch.
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June 23, 2019, 11:36:58 PM

Good afternoon all

Hope everyone got out and blew the stink off yourselves. I sure did, the upper Methow is stunning right now even if still wet and cold.


Lucky dog (re location). It's hard to do when it is 93F around here.
Maybe will visit WA or OR toward the end of the summer, though.
Never been there, it looks very nice.
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June 23, 2019, 11:38:39 PM

they opened at 10925 and their prior settle was at 9980

Yup, damn CME futures. "They" needed that wick.

CME.. Bashing BTC since 2017

discontinuous bashing versus continuous market, so surprises may happen.
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June 23, 2019, 11:42:28 PM

Bears attempting another selloff. It would look like a double top if successful, but the dump isn't getting too far from the looks of it. The daily candle will close a doji at this rate.

Anyone think this is the top?
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June 24, 2019, 12:06:45 AM

Good afternoon all

Hope everyone got out and blew the stink off yourselves. I sure did, the upper Methow is stunning right now even if still wet and cold.


Lucky dog (re location). It's hard to do when it is 93F around here.
Maybe will visit WA or OR toward the end of the summer, though.
Never been there, it looks very nice.
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+1 WOsMerit

I probably should just say it rains all the time and is miserable..   Wink

Truth of the matter is I have been all over the world and I live in this area for a reason. A couple of hours driving and you have 4 distinct climates that are unique and support diverse wildlife. Aside for questionable plate tectonics it is darn near perfect imho. If it gets over 85F I need shade and a body of water to dunk into plus a cold one or two. 
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June 24, 2019, 12:11:10 AM

We are at Dec 3, 2017´s price... 12 days later we were at ATH.

Based on the above we could be in the next bear market within a month.

That is a very good observation. The exponential rise we are in at present is just the sort of move that ends a bull run, and starts a long bear market.

However, comparisons with Dec 2017 are invalid for a number of reasons.

My own observation is that the medium-term chart looks strange compared with 2015-6. Price has significantly deviated from the nice steady early stage bull market of the first few months of the year, and now resembles a late-stage bull run. However, that is not to say that there couldn't be other developments.

That makes for a greater unpredictability.

You could be losing credibility if you were to embrace that bearmarket theme too much, Majormax.  When people speculate about pie in the sky scenarios and happenings that have very low probability of playing out, then that is NOT a "good observation."  So, in that regard, I appreciate your assessment that this is a bit of an uncertain situation rather than something that is flipflopping between bear market to bull market to bear market.

Markets, including bitcoin, don't just switch back and forth from bear to bull to bear without a bit of reason for it.

Yeah, of course, if this market gets too overheated, then we have decent chances to experience a large and perhaps drawn out correction, but that still would not signify that we immediately transitioned back into a "bear market".. just makes no sense....

NOW if such a BTC price correction were to take us below $5k and even stay prolonged for 6 months or more, then that would be another story regarding whether the more accurate assessment would be that we actually would have transitioned back into a bear market...

In other words, if bear wannabes, have not gotten the memo (you seem to recognize this fact), we are currently in a bull market until circumstances justify changing the label, so even if we get a bit too overheated in our current UP, that would not mean that we are all of a sudden, again, transitioned into a "bear market."  Otherwise, I agree with you assessment that we are in a bit of a strange territory, at the moment, but since when have we ever expected bitcoin to act within TA parameters of mature markets, when BTC's market is no where near mature, and there is also a bit of a exponential adoption s-curve that can account for some of the irrationality towards the upside that might actually allow buy support to keep up with some of these seemingly outrageous and ongoing upwards price moves.
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June 24, 2019, 12:16:46 AM

Bears attempting another selloff. It would look like a double top if successful, but the dump isn't getting too far from the looks of it. The daily candle will close a doji at this rate.

Anyone think this is the top?

People have been saying this since $5k, so you are not really saying anything new when you assert that "this looks like the top" for real this time.   Tongue
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June 24, 2019, 12:16:52 AM

Anyone think this is the top?

On what time scale? The week, maybe. The year, not at all.
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June 24, 2019, 12:21:16 AM
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We are at Dec 3, 2017´s price... 12 days later we were at ATH.

Based on the above we could be in the next bear market within a month.

That is a very good observation. The exponential rise we are in at present is just the sort of move that ends a bull run, and starts a long bear market.

However, comparisons with Dec 2017 are invalid for a number of reasons.

My own observation is that the medium-term chart looks strange compared with 2015-6. Price has significantly deviated from the nice steady early stage bull market of the first few months of the year, and now resembles a late-stage bull run. However, that is not to say that there couldn't be other developments.

That makes for a greater unpredictability.

You could be losing credibility if you were to embrace that bearmarket theme too much, Majormax.  When people speculate about pie in the sky scenarios and happenings that have very low probability of playing out, then that is NOT a "good observation."  So, in that regard, I appreciate your assessment that this is a bit of an uncertain situation rather than something that is flipflopping between bear market to bull market to bear market.

Markets, including bitcoin, don't just switch back and forth from bear to bull to bear without a bit of reason for it.

Yeah, of course, if this market gets too overheated, then we have decent chances to experience a large and perhaps drawn out correction, but that still would not signify that we immediately transitioned back into a "bear market".. just makes no sense....

NOW if such a BTC price correction were to take us below $5k and even stay prolonged for 6 months or more, then that would be another story regarding whether the more accurate assessment would be that we actually would have transitioned back into a bear market...

In other words, if bear wannabes, have not gotten the memo (you seem to recognize this fact), we are currently in a bull market until circumstances justify changing the label, so even if we get a bit too overheated in our current UP, that would not mean that we are all of a sudden, again, transitioned into a "bear market."  Otherwise, I agree with you assessment that we are in a bit of a strange territory, at the moment, but since when have we ever expected bitcoin to act within TA parameters of mature markets, when BTC's market is no where near mature, and there is also a bit of a exponential adoption s-curve that can account for some of the irrationality towards the upside that might actually allow buy support to keep up with some of these seemingly outrageous and ongoing upwards price moves.
I think its just the public sentiment too. I think in 2015 there was a real fear that Bitcoin might not ever get back to 1.2k As bad as this previous bear market was, there was still an underlying confidence that we would get back to 10k, 20k, and eventually go to 100k and beyond. I never thought the money left, it was just sitting there waiting for the bottom, in 2015, the money left and wasn't waiting to buy again.

Also, in 2015, people weren't anticipating that the next bull run would take Bitcoin to 20k, you can go back and look at the topics, most people though 2k, 3k or 5k would be the absolute top, and that it wouldn't happen until 2018 or 2019. I think the people buying now are buying for the long term, which means the supply for sale is very limited, with a high demand, the price has to surge. Now if all these people buying don't plan to sell until at least 100k, combined with the demand rising, AND the halving which will further limit the supply. Also the miners in 2015 were likely not holding the way miners are now holding the Bitcoin they earn. I think right now we are indeed setting up for a bull run that will exceed 2017 percentage-wise that will last until 2021.
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June 24, 2019, 12:30:50 AM

I'm back, had a great time, looks like 13 pages of catch up and a new AYH

nice
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June 24, 2019, 12:54:12 AM

I'm back, had a great time, looks like 13 pages of catch up and a new AYH

nice

Wb..hope the gig was decent. We might have bent bitcoin a little but it remains unbroken imho.    Tongue

Quite far behind in my reading as well. Going to turn in early after a soak in the hot tub.

Good night all.
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June 24, 2019, 01:06:49 AM

... having to report where every single satoshi comes from, which is a nightmare within itself. I have for instance payments from signature campaigns from years ago which im not sure how I should exactly prove they come from there as the websites don't exist anymore (Coinut for instance, used to pay you on their website, and I didn't took any screenshots of the payments or anything... so you tell me). Then there's the forks nightmare, then there's the trading which occurred on exchanges which no longer exist nightmare... and so follows. Those are just motivations to hodl the thing, I don't even want to think about any of that. Im hoping there's some sort of amnesty at some point and we are allowed to sell without having to deliver all those details from ages ago which nobody has kept track of 100%.


This just illustrates how comically antiquated the whole nation-state model is.

If these dinosaurs don't undertake some rapid evolution Bitcoin is just one of the meteors that will spell their extinction.
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What we have here is a failure to go down.

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... having to report where every single satoshi comes from, which is a nightmare within itself. I have for instance payments from signature campaigns from years ago which im not sure how I should exactly prove they come from there as the websites don't exist anymore (Coinut for instance, used to pay you on their website, and I didn't took any screenshots of the payments or anything... so you tell me). Then there's the forks nightmare, then there's the trading which occurred on exchanges which no longer exist nightmare... and so follows. Those are just motivations to hodl the thing, I don't even want to think about any of that. Im hoping there's some sort of amnesty at some point and we are allowed to sell without having to deliver all those details from ages ago which nobody has kept track of 100%.

This just illustrates how comically antiquated the whole nation-state model is.

What kind of tard reply is this?  A nation is a grouping of people of common ethnic and cultural background.  Saying you want no nations is the same thing as saying you want open borders and infinite migration from the Congo until your town or wherever you lives implodes back to the hunter gatherer stone age level since that's the only type of civilization 3rd world Congolese can function in.  If you don't have borders, some random shithole 2000 miles away having an overpopulation problem then becomes YOUR problem.
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Don't forget: the drones are coming.

You have been warned.

huh? amazon drones?

not quite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA
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Eh, hack em and they can mine bitcoin for you. No biggie.
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June 24, 2019, 02:29:50 AM

And then I Immediately hit a JJG post. Smiley

SHIT!


Yeah... who needs that?  

Why don't you just skim those damned "JJG posts"?

It's a must these days! I remember back in the day when you could actually read a JJG post catch up with the thread and sneak 8 hours of sleep in! Tongue

Sorry to hear that matters have been deteriorating regarding catchingupability.  Sucks!!!!!  Whatchyagonnaduuuu?

I'm considering Drugs, I ,mean M0ar Drugs than normal! Cheesy
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