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September 30, 2020, 10:39:59 AM

switzerland is leading in crypto... you can pay your taxes in bitcoin in Zug and....


just found out there is a Hodlerstrasse in the Swiss capital Bern. google it.   Cheesy


the only pic I found is a bunch of junkies.




Switzerland is great, has the best democracy and is maximum neutral on nearly any topic

( see eg https://www.bitcoinsuisse.com/fundamentals/what-is-bitcoin-sv)

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God help us all.

If you don't do anything to help yourself, "God" most certainly won't.

"God" is just a very old name for "existence".
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hodlers bull got horns but they are pointed towards the artist. he was a realist.

So it seems, but they are very discreet, and coat coloring really put me off - and remind it me of cows (small horns).
Is this it?:



If it wasn't for his dong...
Realist? I'm sorry, but I don't share that point of view (at least not for this piece). Most likely there were many cows outside his window.

It's all about the horns - the bigger, the better.



"God" is just a very old name for "existence".

Didn't know that, thanks. Any source/hint to dig in?
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hodlers bull got horns but they are pointed towards the artist. he was a realist.

So it seems, but they are very discreet, and coat coloring really put me off - and remind it me of cows (small horns).
Is this it?:



If it wasn't for his dong...
Realist? I'm sorry, but I don't share that point of view (at least not for this piece). Most likely there were many cows outside his window.

It's all about the horns - the bigger, the better.

it is not really a point of view. it is a part of art nomenclature.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Hodler
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"God" is just a very old name for "existence".

Didn't know that, thanks. Any source/hint to dig in?

Yes, but only in german.
https://homepage.univie.ac.at/Erwin.Bader/Schoepfung_zeitlich.html

Based on an alternative translation of JHWH (Jahweh) as "I am" or "i am here (to be)".
Imho, this is also the most logical translation.
It spins around the philosophic question of origin: which was first? existence or the creator? can a creator exist without existence?
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Boletín de Bitcoin Optech # 117
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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/
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https://blog.kraken.com/post/6444/what-is-bitcoins-intrinsic-value-our-new-kraken-intelligence-report-explores/

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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/

Just remember that this idea was born from a post here on Bitcointalk!.
This is a great legacy from Hal, that others have picked up, building on top of it.

wut no Caucasus map ^^  Huh



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Grayscale buys additional 17100 $BTC



this week. only this bybt.com source so far




I am proud to say that my spreadsheet on Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! is apparently capable of tracking those coins.




Catching up with the WO, I am on page 27306 on par now!
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Boletín de Bitcoin Optech # 117
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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/

Just remember that this idea was born from a post here on Bitcointalk!.
This is a great legacy from Hal, that others have picked up, building on top of it.




I know, I visited Hal thread yesterday, it never ceases to amaze me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55283820#msg55283820
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The report concludes by saying:

“Although the road ahead for bitcoin is uncertain, one thing is for certain is that bitcoin is valuable”.

lol
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Guys I need some help. I think Bittrex has misplaced 0.17 BTC of my balance, and after a month of back-and-forth, they concluded that everything is A-OK and nothing missing. Please help me confirm who is mistaken here. Made a topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279203.new#new
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The report concludes by saying:

“Although the road ahead for bitcoin is uncertain, one thing is for certain is that bitcoin is valuable”.

lol

Somebody here would comment that this specific conclusion came after numerous hours of science, math etc.  Grin Grin Grin
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it is not really a point of view. it is a part of art nomenclature.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Hodler

Sure it is. The artist is inspired, and channels his inspiration through his artwork.
What's left after that, is the critics of his work, and whether they get close to the artist's vision or not.
Regardless, art is open to many interpretations, without one opinion being wrong and the other one being right necessarily.

My point is, that he should have named that piece, "The homosexual bull" or something. It's a fucking cow with a dick.
It does not inspire the viewer of what bulls should be all about.
Period. That's why I'm having trouble with his "realism".
Other than that, sure, his art is "realistic" enough - if you boil it down to his technique and his real life surroundings.

Anyway. I'm no expert of course, just a bull with a stubborn opinion.



It spins around the philosophic question of origin: which was first? existence or the creator? can a creator exist without existence?

Thanks - again. I O U. Wink
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This week’s newsletter describes a compiler bug that casts doubt on the safety of secure systems and explains a technique that can be used to more efficiently verify ECDSA signatures in Bitcoin. Also included are our regular sections with popular questions and answers from the Bitcoin StackExchange, announcements of releases and release candidates, and summaries of notable changes to popular Bitcoin infrastructure software.
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US Patent 7,110,538 has expired: Bitcoin transactions are secured using ECDSA (the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm). Verifying signatures involves multiplying points on the elliptic curve by scalars. Typically, each transaction input requires one or more signature verifications, meaning that syncing the Bitcoin block chain can require many millions of these elliptic curve point multiplications. Any technique to make point multiplications more efficient therefore has the potential to significantly speed up Bitcoin Core’s initial sync.

In a 2011 bitcointalk post, Hal Finney described a method by Gallant, Lambert and Vanstone (GLV) to efficiently compute elliptic curve point multiplications using an endomorphism on the curve (a mapping from the curve to itself which preserves all relationships between points). By using this GLV endomorphism, the multiplication can be broken into two parts, which are calculated simultaneously to arrive at the solution. Doing this can reduce the number of expensive computations by up to 33%. Finney wrote a proof-of-concept implementation of the GLV endomorphism, which he claimed sped up signature verification by around 25%.

Pieter Wuille separately implemented the GLV endomorphism algorithm in the libsecp256k1 library, which is used to verify signatures in Bitcoin Core. However, the algorithm was encumbered by U.S. Patent 7,110,538 and so to avoid any legal uncertainty, the implementation has not previously been distributed to users. On September 25, the patent expired, removing that legal uncertainty. A PR has been opened in the libsecp256k1 repo to always use the GLV endomorphism algorithm, which is expected to decrease Bitcoin Core’s initial sync time significantly.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/09/30/

Just remember that this idea was born from a post here on Bitcointalk!.
This is a great legacy from Hal, that others have picked up, building on top of it.

wut no Caucasus map ^^  Huh



https://twitter.com/cryptounfolded/status/1310225180405436420?s=20

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Grayscale buys additional 17100 $BTC



this week. only this bybt.com source so far




I am proud to say that my spreadsheet on Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! is apparently capable of tracking those coins.




Catching up with the WO, I am on page 27306





Will the CME Bitcoin fates hole purchasers at $9,600 be left in tears?

Bitcoin cost has stayed above $10,000 for quite a while, yet will the energy tip back in the bulls favor for a retest of the key multi-year opposition at $12K?

The ongoing week has been generally dull on the value developments of Bitcoin (BTC), as a moderate upward pattern was built up after Bitcoin's value found a balance at above $10,000. This assembly at that point proceeded toward $11,000 on Sep. 18 however was pushed back by some transient opposition levels.
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Guys I need some help. I think Bittrex has misplaced 0.17 BTC of my balance, and after a month of back-and-forth, they concluded that everything is A-OK and nothing missing. Please help me confirm who is mistaken here. Made a topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279203.new#new

What about fees?

Anyway, exchanges have always been the week link in crypto. started bad and went downhill from there. Exchanges are junk coin paradise.
Lost track with all the troubles and close encounters (withdraw just in the nick of time) at all the now defunct exchanges. Once had to move to another country and months long battle to get my coins back just to please the exchange. Small trades not worth the hassle and risk.
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Guys I need some help. I think Bittrex has misplaced 0.17 BTC of my balance, and after a month of back-and-forth, they concluded that everything is A-OK and nothing missing. Please help me confirm who is mistaken here. Made a topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279203.new#new

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buys:
0,86392976
0,48215511
0,50035636
1,10131185
0,29780068
0,32123041

Total buys: 3,56678417

Sells:
0,96638886
1,10131840
0,29797914
0,32124446
0,34929674
0,89960826

Total sells: 3,93583586

Sells:
0,96638886
1,10131840
0,29797914
0,32124446
0,34929674
0,89960826
0,62251622

Total sells: 4,55835208

The sale that is in red has not been counted, I do not know if this helps to square their numbers
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This debate is total cringe.

God help us all.

This is why people shouldn't care tho.

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Sells:
0,96638886
1,10131840
0,29797914
0,32124446
0,34929674
0,89960826
0,62251622

Total sells: 4,55835208

The sale that is in red has not been counted, I do not know if this helps to square their numbers

Thanks!!

Yes that one happened on the 21st of July and is already included in the total of 1.05574581 BTC of sales that day.
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