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Question: 1/31 Closing Price:
<$30,000 - 15 (28.3%)
$30,000-$31,000 - 2 (3.8%)
$31,000-$32,000 - 2 (3.8%)
$32,000-$33,000 - 8 (15.1%)
$33,000-$34,000 - 3 (5.7%)
$34,000-$35,000 - 0 (0%)
$35,000-$36,000 - 2 (3.8%)
$36,000-$37,000 - 3 (5.7%)
$37,000-$38,000 - 4 (7.5%)
$38,000-$39,000 - 0 (0%)
$39,000-$40,000 - 1 (1.9%)
>$40,000 - 13 (24.5%)
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I bought bitcoin with the amount of $150 with the market price of the coin 11.3k market price and I'm trying to take investment because there is a chance that the price goes up into 15k.

Right now I'm seeing the price drops over 10k and continuously going down and this is not a good shot for me right now. The only choice is holding and wait again for another pump.

Just want to share my cruel mistake lol.

the first bitcoin I bought went down 90% in value.  I was thinking it was a very ver very bad mistake back then. it took the price 2 years to climb back. you will have to wait maybe 2 weeks or - if things go a bit mad - 2 months.

you are doing good, buying at local tops is no cruel mistake in bitcoin. even on a multiyear blow-off top it is no mistake.

just adding to 600watt here. as long as you can afford to lose it youre fine. that should be a given.

i started mining at $10. it went to $35. yes! then.. down to $2 for a loooong time. a ~95% drop. but.  look where we are today.

tl;dr: hodl
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September 3, 2020
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I bought bitcoin with the amount of $150 with the market price of the coin 11.3k market price and I'm trying to take investment because there is a chance that the price goes up into 15k.

Right now I'm seeing the price drops over 10k and continuously going down and this is not a good shot for me right now. The only choice is holding and wait again for another pump.

Just want to share my cruel mistake lol.

buy $150 more on the cheap
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September 05, 2020, 02:17:32 PM

need to take that 10500 out before it becomes strong resistance again
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September 05, 2020, 02:27:19 PM

need to take that 10500 out before it becomes strong resistance again

itd take a few weekly closes below 10.5k if its to become big resistance again
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September 05, 2020, 02:40:35 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we tested $10k again with a triple bottom... currently $10300USD/$13455CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully that's the end of 4 digits.

Go Bitcoin go.

(And yes "they" is grammatically correct for referring to the singular, or so I've heard.)

No, it is not correct—outside the fantasies of the Newspeak Dictionary, Tenth Edition (or is it the Eleventh now?).

I don’t want to feed more off-topic drama, much less engage in a “pronouns” flamewar at this particular moment.  This is just one of those issues where bad information stands, unless somebody contradicts it.  I will do so, for the promotion of singular “they” is a part of the linguistic degeneration that has rendered most of the Internet not only illiterate, but illegible; and it is politically motivated, however much you may disclaim “political correctness”.

I don’t want to come off as lecturing you about language usage.  I just ask you to please not lecture others on it—especially not to declare peremptorily correct a contentious usage that is widely abhorred.

I was actually suspecting this sway character could be a she. (or not)

Perhaps.  What of it?

I have engaged in similar speculations about others, but never corrected the pronouns applied to people who choose to keep this one binary bit of identifying information private.  On a forum that respects privacy and anonymity, I suggest that it is generally appropriate to avoid prying, unless you are friendly enough with a person to ask in private.  Simply pick whatever pronoun seems best to fit the available evidence, and stick to it unless contrary evidence arises.

(I have corrected others who decided to refer to me as a hipster default “she”.)



back in the day, as in way back in the day, when i learned english (in two different english speaking countries)

Back in the day—when people spoke English, in contradistinction to the bastardized postmodern cant used by degenerate anthropoids with pickled brains.

i thought i learned that when a singular person of unknown sex was referred to "he" could refer to either sex.

Yes.

Edit/P.S.:  “Back in the day”, women customarily signed their letters with a parenthesized title so that others would know whether to apply “Mrs.” or “Miss”.  E.g., “Sincerely, Alice Smith (Mrs.)”.  Just sayin’...

Thank you for this breath of fresh air. My mother was a high school English teacher and my father was a journalist/writer so I appreciate good grammar, composition, and spelling.

Sure I may resort to colloquialism and cliches (and dangling participles is something I'm guilty of! Sentence fragments too.) but when bad grammar crosses the line and becomes illogical, I see red.

I'm sorry, but something as illogical as using a plural pronoun in for a singular person is totally unacceptable. It not only is inaccurate but if the sex of the person in question is known, it is somewhat deceitful to hide it. There's a reason for pronoun gender. It more accurately describes the person it represents.

Whenever possible a specific person should be referred to as "he" or "she". If it's a non-specific person, one should use "he or she" "he/she", "(s)he" or simply "he" if one is too lazy to spell the longer versions. One could even use "it" in certain cases (oh boo hoo hoo that's so dehumanizing!) . "They" is totally unacceptable.

I'm sorry if being gender-specific offends some whiny little SJWs but accuracy is more important.

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September 05, 2020, 02:52:41 PM

need to take that 10500 out before it becomes strong resistance again

itd take a few weekly closes below 10.5k if its to become big resistance again

Not sure about that. We were above it for like "5 minutes" compared to the strength of resistance it used to be.
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I'm sorry if being gender-specific offends some whiny little SJWs but accuracy is more important.

Singular they has been in use since the 16th century, its not an invention of these past decades, id consider it a part of English

https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/200700
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September 05, 2020, 02:55:36 PM

need to take that 10500 out before it becomes strong resistance again

itd take a few weekly closes below 10.5k if its to become big resistance again

Not sure about that. We were above it for like "5 minutes" compared to the strength of resistance it used to be.

Yes exactly, so if we stayed below 10.5k without any tests for a few weeks it would regain all its strength
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need to take that 10500 out before it becomes strong resistance again

itd take a few weekly closes below 10.5k if its to become big resistance again

Not sure about that. We were above it for like "5 minutes" compared to the strength of resistance it used to be.

Yes exactly, so if we stayed below 10.5k without any tests for a few weeks it would regain all its strength

We're pretty much on same thinking apart of maybe time needed for it to become shit thing again Cheesy
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September 05, 2020, 03:10:21 PM
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Look at that relentless douchebaggery trying hard to get sub $10k today.

And people still wanna say this market isn't manipulated?

The only reason this whale entity can do that is no one else his size is even in this market, and hasn't been for months now.

Still no signs that the big boys have come to play "who's KOM now."

Bears thought 3rd time's a charm:



Meanwhile, bitcoin reserves held in all exchanges continues to decrease rapidly. Even after the $12K hits, the trend sharpened. Since March we have 15% decrease. With this pace in 3 years theoretically there will be close to 0 bitcoins on the exchanges. Just imagine what will happen with the price then  Shocked Prhoudhon troll can try to find proofs now how the price over 10K is not sustainable lol

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September 05, 2020, 03:14:01 PM

Look at that relentless douchebaggery trying hard to get sub $10k today.

And people still wanna say this market isn't manipulated?

The only reason this whale entity can do that is no one else his size is even in this market, and hasn't been for months now.

Still no signs that the big boys have come to play "who's KOM now."

when $1337 ? Wink reeeeeee
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September 05, 2020, 03:16:51 PM

Look at that relentless douchebaggery trying hard to get sub $10k today.

And people still wanna say this market isn't manipulated?

The only reason this whale entity can do that is no one else his size is even in this market, and hasn't been for months now.

Still no signs that the big boys have come to play "who's KOM now."

when $1337 ? Wink reeeeeee

 Stop merit whoring gemma.
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Look at that relentless douchebaggery trying hard to get sub $10k today.

And people still wanna say this market isn't manipulated?

The only reason this whale entity can do that is no one else his size is even in this market, and hasn't been for months now.

Still no signs that the big boys have come to play "who's KOM now."

when $1337 ? Wink reeeeeee

 Stop merit whoring gemma.

let the merits flow through you :-D weeeeee
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I'm sorry if being gender-specific offends some whiny little SJWs but accuracy is more important.

Singular they has been in use since the 16th century, its not an invention of these past decades, id consider it a part of English

https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/200700

According to the source you cited (OED) it has only been used for specific individuals more recently.

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In the 21st century, other th– pronouns (and the possessive adjective their) are sometimes used to refer to a named individual, so as to avoid revealing or making an assumption about that person's gender; cf. sense A. 2c, and quots. 2008 at their adj. 2b, 2009 at them pron. 4b, 2009 at themself pron. 2b.

Language is ever-changing, not always for the better. This is a case of obscuring gender, of replacing clarity with vagueness.
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September 05, 2020, 03:58:01 PM

Language is ever-changing, not always for the better. This is a case of obscuring gender, of replacing clarity with vagueness.

Your original problem was that singular 'they' is grammatically incorrect, which is not the case (imo anyways, theres no real rulebook since its an everchanging language)

Whether or not singular 'they' is a good change to the English language is a completely different conversation.
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September 05, 2020, 04:04:05 PM

Cryptotourist is always right.

Well thank you, but no.
For reference, I'm not a God, but merely a mutant demigawd.

Already love your update though, so keep it up. Cool

Well gosh.  Roll Eyes  I know that you are not always right.

Actually, you are usually wrong, and occasionally you are right.

I was merely trying to make a joke.   Wink

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Meanwhile, bitcoin reserves held in all exchanges continues to decrease rapidly. Even after the $12K hits, the trend sharpened. Since March we have 15% decrease. With this pace in 3 years theoretically there will be close to 0 bitcoins on the exchanges. Just imagine what will happen with the price then  Shocked Prhoudhon troll can try to find proofs now how the price over 10K is not sustainable lol



Awesome, I hope to see that trend continue. Shorting will become more difficult, short squeezes more barty and extreme.  Wink
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September 05, 2020, 04:07:48 PM

have also demonstrated a willingness to be reasonable

The man who is right does not command respect, but the one who admits he is wrong

Nonsense.  Outside the Cult of Feelings (and I say this in the sense that the statement reeks of “group criticism” and “sensitivity training”, common methods of brainwashing), being right does assuredly command respect; and the respectable man most of all respects he who is right.  Admission of having been wrong may be respectable or not, depending on the context; when it is, that in no way detracts from the respect accorded he who is right in the first instance; when it is not, lecturing others on what commands respect is a fantastic conceit.

Inductive proof:

The earth is flat, 2 + 2 = 5, and anybody who disagrees with me should be shot.

[Ensuing discussion in which I lecture my nay-sayers on how they owe me “constructive criticism” instead of “toxic” insults.  How righteous I am!]

Oops, I was wrong!  BOW DOWN, RESPECT ME, AND +++++MERIT ME FOR ADMITTING THAT I WAS WRONG!!!

Would you have respected me more if i had completely ignored the stuff nutildah said and tried to preserve my pride by continuing the (now) pointless argument or if I had just admitted I was wrong?

Nutildah corrected me on my numbers which I had gotten wrong, i was proven wrong, there was no point in me continuing the argument apart from pride, alot of people get blinded by pride and despise admitting that they were wrong,but when I see someone accept that they were wrong, I respect them alot more, so I try to be the same and not let pride blind me

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I bought bitcoin with the amount of $150 with the market price of the coin 11.3k market price and I'm trying to take investment because there is a chance that the price goes up into 15k.

Right now I'm seeing the price drops over 10k and continuously going down and this is not a good shot for me right now. The only choice is holding and wait again for another pump.

Just want to share my cruel mistake lol.

the first bitcoin I bought went down 90% in value.  I was thinking it was a very ver very bad mistake back then. it took the price 2 years to climb back. you will have to wait maybe 2 weeks or - if things go a bit mad - 2 months.

you are doing good, buying at local tops is no cruel mistake in bitcoin. even on a multiyear blow-off top it is no mistake.

just adding to 600watt here. as long as you can afford to lose it youre fine. that should be a given.

i started mining at $10. it went to $35. yes! then.. down to $2 for a loooong time. a ~95% drop. but.  look where we are today.

tl;dr: hodl

i had read about bitcoin when price was about $10 and right away decided to buy some. but I couldn't find a way to get some btc other than wiring money to the MtGox bank account in Tokyo. price rose every day and the money wouldn't arrive. and price kept on rising, doubling, tripling, etc.. on and on. the fuckin day the fuckin money was finally on my account ready to f i n a l l y buy, price was at.... you guessed it: $35

I finally bought and it felt great. when I checked my account a few hours later that same day, price had crashed. and it kept on crashing next day. and the day after....  man, that was shocking and I had no news. there was no media infrastructure, and main stream media didn't cover it and unfortunately I hadn't found this forum yet. no info, price kept crashing. then MtGox got hacked, I couldn't get to my account anymore. decided to throw everything away and forget about it. I was so ashamed I had sunken my money into this Japanese scam. price went down to $2. 
I had bought right the top of bitcoins first insane bull run. I could have bought 17x more bitcoin if I had bought on the day it was on $2 instead of the day I had chosen to buy. one could say that I had royally fucked this one up and I really think I did. but whining about a buying price of $35 is kinda weird.

cheers to you sharing that moment. you were already mining and I was a textbook noob. cheers to all 2011ers.
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trader that he could turn .05 BTC into 1 BTC[/url]

0.005 btc*

It was some dust I had on a spare account, i decided to make it a challenge because why not

Ok. Fair enough correction -  even more unrealistic.

causing him to get a considerable amount of backlash in this thread and in his other thread, because he was overpromising, underdelivering and not even coming close to achieving his BTC price prediction goals or acknowledging the various fallacies of his ways that had considerably good chances to mislead others..
Risk management allows me to be right only 33% of the time and still breakeven, in the post which you linked i had a more than 33% success rate,

Many of us more experience peeps realize that if you are playing a kind of martingale style, then it may not even matter if you have 90% success rate, if you end up losing everything in one shot somewhere down the road...   The system that you were describing in that thread, and even when you talk about your system here is far from transparent and even far from any kind of assured way to make sure that you are making money.. 



even if i told you every single trade i was gonna take theres obviously going to be nuances to every different persons trading strategies, which i wouldnt be able to explain to you, such as deciding not to take a trade due to change of context

Of course, explaining your trades is difficult as fuck, but does not mean that you cannot try to do that.  I don't have any problem with guys either explaining their trades are attempting to be helpful in terms of explaining the good, bad and the ugly of actual trading... and surely other members could benefit from a trader who attempts to be straight forward about his trades.

The overall theme of your thread to convert .005 BTC to 1BTC and to show your trades along the way was not a bad one, only your unrealistic expectations of yourself (to the extent that you were actually being genuine), were not realistic, and your timeline of expecting to achieve your goal was unrealistic and your lack of carrying out the whole project was disingenuous and even failing to really disclose that you lost all your BTC and proclaiming that you lost interest.. blah blah blah.. nonsense..


furthermore not even acknowledging that he had pretty much lost all of his money in a pretty short time.
I dont know where this is coming from,before the end of the challenge I was only trading with 100 contracts per trade, which is not alot at all, and then as i said before locking the thread, i was busy with personal reasons so i stopped updating the thread and trading with the challenge account

Even assuming you did not lose all of your BTC, there was both lame follow through and lame transparency.

Sure there might be ways that you can attempt to redeem yourself, but you have already engaged in quite a bit of baloney and misleading conduct in my humble bumble opinion, but sure, you can try some kind of attention seeking project, and hopefully you can figure out some methodology in order to have some sustainability in your approach rather than making bold and unrealistic claims and then NOT following through, which seems to be your ongoing modus operandi.
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