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November 25, 2020, 12:52:28 PM

Anyone know why Max Keiser keeps saying 28k?  What's special about 28k?

I listened to his show a couple weeks ago and I thought he said something about a long term trendline there. Maybe it's a fib?

25-30k would be equal to July 2019 13k from the mining profit viewpoint.

When we got to 13k in July 2019 we corrected.

Maybe he is getting his 28k number from this interpretation of mining profits.

as a miner when we got to 13k last year I was earning too much money for the gear prices I had invested so I knew we would correct.

Which is why I am not that excited about the 20k level as I feel 18-22k levels would give me the correct profit levels for the money I have invested in gear.
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November 25, 2020, 01:22:36 PM

Anyone know why Max Keiser keeps saying 28k?  What's special about 28k?

I listened to his show a couple weeks ago and I thought he said something about a long term trendline there. Maybe it's a fib?

25-30k would be equal to July 2019 13k from the mining profit viewpoint.

When we got to 13k in July 2019 we corrected.

Maybe he is getting his 28k number from this interpretation of mining profits.

as a miner when we got to 13k last year I was earning too much money for the gear prices I had invested so I knew we would correct.

Which is why I am not that excited about the 20k level as I feel 18-22k levels would give me the correct profit levels for the money I have invested in gear.

I cant agree with you more. That moment when you know the mining income isnt "sustainable" and then the price corrects.

At this moment the profits are nice (at least, on gpu mining), but not in the bubble/unsustainable territory. Maybe eth volcano is starting to spurt its last lava..


On the other hand, some indicators are suggesting a correction is coming. 3D RSI still has some point to rise.. but i think its on the brink of turning down.

I observe some decent walls at $19500 and above on stamp. Call the badger, he has some work to do!



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November 25, 2020, 01:40:39 PM

@APompilano
We are watching simple supply and demand economics play out.

Bitcoiners aren’t selling their Bitcoin. The halving cut incoming supply. There is a significant increase in demand. Price has to go up to accommodate.

This isn’t rocket science.
https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1331591543556345856?s=21
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November 25, 2020, 01:43:43 PM

@APompilano
We are watching simple supply and demand economics play out.

Bitcoiners aren’t selling their Bitcoin. The halving cut incoming supply. There is a significant increase in demand. Price has to go up to accommodate.

This isn’t rocket science.
https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1331591543556345856?s=21

No its rocket science and math
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November 25, 2020, 01:44:51 PM

I think this could be, Gentlemen
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November 25, 2020, 01:45:03 PM

another push for the ATH incoming! Cheesy
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November 25, 2020, 01:46:00 PM

Dat 600BTC wall at stamp around 19500$ is the last hope of the bears.  Grin Grin Grin
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November 25, 2020, 01:48:11 PM

Dat 600BTC wall at stamp around 19500$ is the last hope of the bears.  Grin Grin Grin

getting eaten!

new ath in 3... 2... 1...
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November 25, 2020, 01:51:14 PM

This is gentlemen, gentlemen.
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November 25, 2020, 01:52:49 PM

Dat 600BTC wall at stamp around 19500$ is the last hope of the bears.  Grin Grin Grin

getting eaten!

new ath in 3... 2... 1...

This is gentlemen, gentlemen.

Made it to the party in time, phew...
But what are those filthy walls, growing while being bought into? Pull-effect?
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November 25, 2020, 01:52:51 PM
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How you going to pay in BTC if the person refuses to accept BTC..?  Hold a gun to their head?  You cannot assume away the point that I was making by saying, "if you pay in BTC" when you have not even gotten to that point yet, can you?

Of course. However some places do take BTC, yet I've never seen one whose prices are BTC nominated, and don't move with the BTC/USD price. So in reality the prices are still un USD (other fiat).

As long as they use fiat to pay for their supplies, their BTC prices will always move with BTC/fiat. To have truly BTC-nominated prices, everyone in the supply chain has to be BTC-nominated, and, sadly, that's still a long way away...

For now, fiat is a necessary evil, if you want to enjoy your riches. Sadly...
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November 25, 2020, 01:54:10 PM

How you going to pay in BTC if the person refuses to accept BTC..?  Hold a gun to their head?  You cannot assume away the point that I was making by saying, "if you pay in BTC" when you have not even gotten to that point yet, can you?

Of course. However some places do take BTC, yet I've never seen one whose prices are BTC nominated, and don't move with the BTC/USD price. So in reality the prices are still un USD (other fiat).

As long as they use fiat to pay for their supplies, their BTC prices will always move with BTC/fiat. To have truly BTC-nominated prices, everyone in the supply chain has to be BTC-nominated, and, sadly, that's still a long way away...

For now, fiat is a necessary evil, if you want to enjoy your riches. Sadly...

Like toilet paper  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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November 25, 2020, 01:57:11 PM

Dat 600BTC wall at stamp around 19500$ is the last hope of the bears.  Grin Grin Grin

It held with about $8 million left.So not yet. not yet .
 BTC teases us
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November 25, 2020, 02:01:51 PM

Dat 600BTC wall at stamp around 19500$ is the last hope of the bears.  Grin Grin Grin

It held with about $8 million left.So not yet. not yet .
 BTC teases us
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November 25, 2020, 02:02:06 PM

Or maybe not JUST yet
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November 25, 2020, 02:08:20 PM

Or maybe not JUST yet

Are we poor again?!
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November 25, 2020, 02:08:40 PM

Or maybe not JUST yet

yap. soon. Its close. one more push. There are of course different ATHs depending on what exchange but I believe it is the Bitstamp price that has always been used her which is 19,666
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November 25, 2020, 02:09:31 PM

It's all good.

The time everyday goods prices will truly be BTC-nominated, is the time a cup of coffee will cost one (1) sat.

HoDL.
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November 25, 2020, 02:10:23 PM

Any forecast as to what to expect if the ATH is broken? . continue as normal, big spike, dump??
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