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[Arriemoller]

Silk.Road.2021.1080p.Bluray.DTS-HD.MA.5.1.X264-EVOx

Downloading, thanks.

[Paashaas]

Morgan Stanley may bet on Bitcoin in $150 billion investment arm.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/morgan-stanley-may-bet-bitcoin-150049774.html

[Chrystora123]

Silk.Road.2021.1080p.Bluray.DTS-HD.MA.5.1.X264-EVOx

Downloading, thanks.

what movie is this, related to Bitcoin? I tried to open but it in Korean language

[BobLawblaw]

Morgan Stanley may bet on Bitcoin in $150 billion investment arm.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/morgan-stanley-may-bet-bitcoin-150049774.html

Lulz. Fat fingered an extra 1 in there for merit. Please redistribute as you deem worthy.

[JSRAW]

Possible, or sideways now until August-September and then a facemelting rally up to $300-400k!  

I always love when Pyro create panic in spawn and keep soldier and spy in check. Demoman is bit too much for Pyro tho, nonetheless it's good to see tf2 meme.

[Arriemoller]

Silk.Road.2021.1080p.Bluray.DTS-HD.MA.5.1.X264-EVOx

Downloading, thanks.

what movie is this, related to Bitcoin? I tried to open but it in Korean language

It says Language = English

GENERAL INFO
Genre : Crime, Thriller, Drama
Director : Tiller Russell
Stars : Jason Clarke, Nick Robinson, Daniel David Stewart, Alexandra Shipp, Paul Walter Hauser
Plot : The true story of Ross Ulbricht, the charismatic young tech-mastermind who unleashed the darknet website Silk Road, and the corrupt DEA agent determined to bring down his billion-dollar empire.


MEDIAINFO
Container = Matroska (mkv)
Duration = 01:56:44.956
Filesize = 11 GiB
Overall bitrate = 13.1 Mb/s
ViDEO
Codec info = AVC [email protected] | V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Resolution = 1920x804
Display AR = 2.388 | 2.40:1
Bitrate =
Framerate = CFR 23.976
Color space = YUV
Chroma subsampling = 4:2:0
Encoder = x264 - core 142 r2479 dd79a61
AUDiO
Codec info = AC-3 | A_AC3
Channels = 6
Bitrate = CBR 640 kb/s
Samplerate = 48.0 kHz
Language = English

[psycodad]

Silk.Road.2021.1080p.Bluray.DTS-HD.MA.5.1.X264-EVOx

Downloading, thanks.

what movie is this, related to Bitcoin? I tried to open but it in Korean language

I believe it is about this former forum user:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5341

[fillippone]

Speaking of Tesla. 11 hours to the premiere of Audi etron gt. It is a bit better looking than my VW CC, so I consider it. The problem is the battery is only for 400km.
https://www.progress.audi/progress/en/day-of-progress.html

Nice car:



Appropriate car to show up at a 100k party.

[Arriemoller]

Australia considering a Bitcoin ETF

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/asic-open-to-a-bitcoin-linked-etf-listing-on-the-asx-20210212-p571v0

Canada has gone ahead with the first ETF. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-approves-worlds-first-bitcoin-etf-for-retail-investors/

Really? didn't we discuss a Swedish ETF here several years ago? Or am I misremembering.

[philipma1957]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways... currently $46940USD/$59650CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Coiling.

Go Bitcoin go.

-altcoin trash-

-more altcoin trash-

Please move this garbage to the appropriate folder:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0

Sideways is exactly what is needed to uncoil the next strike past 50k to 60 k

[Biodom]

Australia considering a Bitcoin ETF

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/asic-open-to-a-bitcoin-linked-etf-listing-on-the-asx-20210212-p571v0

Canada has gone ahead with the first ETF. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-approves-worlds-first-bitcoin-etf-for-retail-investors/

Really? didn't we discuss a Swedish ETF here several years ago? Or am I misremembering.

You are quite correct (there is bitcoin tracker one XBT provider, trading in SEK) but I think that there is a fine line between ETN (such as XBT provider) and ETP/ETF.
Correct me if I am wrong, but i remember someone saying that Sweden has incredibly low capital gains tax rate in some special investment accounts (like low single digits) and that was the whole idea behind this type of funds (such as XBT provider, because you can keep those in the 'special' accounts). Right?
I am not sure how, and don't want to spend too much time investigating. XBT provider is referred to as a "uncollaterized debt instrument".
I managed to buy CXBTF in Fidelity, but some days there is no US market for it due to SEC complains about it.
I guess, i would have to use foreign exchange desk and pay $50 fee when i would like to sell it.
I bought it when btc was 4K or so, so that little tracker had done quite well in Roth, lol.

[Paashaas]

These gaming studios are bringing Bitcoin payouts to everyday Esport gamers.

Instead of having to go to a professional esports tournament, you can play online to earn money. That’s the whole point of it. This isn’t my phrase, but it’s the ‘democratization of monetization.’ Once money is software, any stakeholder in the gaming industry can create mini-businesses in the game It’s too early to say bitcoin has changed the gaming industry. But Dickerson said the real transformation comes when bitcoin sees further adoption into mainstream titles like CS:GO. There are millions of esports players waiting to onboard onto bitcoin, and gaming is the way to get them a seat on the ride, Dickerson said.

[Arriemoller]

Australia considering a Bitcoin ETF

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/asic-open-to-a-bitcoin-linked-etf-listing-on-the-asx-20210212-p571v0

Canada has gone ahead with the first ETF. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-approves-worlds-first-bitcoin-etf-for-retail-investors/

Really? didn't we discuss a Swedish ETF here several years ago? Or am I misremembering.

You are quite correct (there is bitcoin tracker one XBT provider, trading in SEK) but I think that there is a fine line between ETN (such as XBT provider) and ETP/ETF.
Correct me if I am wrong, but i remember someone saying that Sweden has incredibly low capital gains tax rate in some special investment accounts (like low single digits) and that was the whole idea behind this type of funds (such as XBT provider, because you can keep those in the 'special' accounts). Right?
I am not sure how, and don't want to spend too much time investigating. XBT provider is referred to as a "uncollaterized debt instrument".
I managed to buy CXBTF in Fidelity, but some days there is no US market for it due to SEC complains about it.
I guess, i would have to use foreign exchange desk and pay $50 fee when i would like to sell it.
I bought it when btc was 4K or so, so that little tracker had done quite well in Roth, lol.

Ah, yes, that must be the "investeringssparkonto", meaning "investment savings account" Yes the tax is really low, but it is a tax you always pay, even when your assets go down.

[Biodom]

Any conspiracy theorists here?

Why would both India (expected) and Nigeria (unexpected) suddenly lurched toward banning or limiting all cryptocurrencies?
These two countries have quite a few people, lol.

My conspiratorial explanation is that as WS is getting into bitcoin, it does not want competition for the precious corn.
Nigerians were quite into bitcoin, I hear.

Say, a few massive wealth managers quietly talk to IMF or whatever other Central central bank there is, the IMF 'people' whisper something into India and Nigeria regulator's ears and voila-new policies are being enacted and competition to buy corn is lessened. US based hedgies/wealthies probably figured... less for them, more for us.

This all is just a product of my wild imagination, of course.

[d_eddie]

Any conspiracy theorists here?

Why would both India (expected) and Nigeria (unexpected) suddenly lurched toward banning or limiting all cryptocurrencies?
These two countries have quite a few people, lol.

My conspiratorial explanation is that as WS is getting into bitcoin, it does not want competition for the precious corn.
Nigerians were quite into bitcoin, I hear.

Say, a few massive wealth managers quietly talk to IMF or whatever other Central central bank there is, the IMF 'people' whisper something into India and Nigeria regulator's ears and voila-new policies are being enacted and competition to buy corn is lessened. US based hedgies/wealthies probably figured... less for them, more for us.

This all is just a product of my wild imagination, of course.

I propose a simpler explanation. Apparently, both India and Nigeria news were found to lie anywhere between semi-fake and full-fake. So my theory is "just plain old FUD, be it WS or some other entity".

The strong point of my explanation is that it's better from Occam's point of view. 

[Arriemoller]

Australia considering a Bitcoin ETF

https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/asic-open-to-a-bitcoin-linked-etf-listing-on-the-asx-20210212-p571v0

Canada has gone ahead with the first ETF. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-canada-approves-worlds-first-bitcoin-etf-for-retail-investors/

Really? didn't we discuss a Swedish ETF here several years ago? Or am I misremembering.

You are quite correct (there is bitcoin tracker one XBT provider, trading in SEK) but I think that there is a fine line between ETN (such as XBT provider) and ETP/ETF.
Correct me if I am wrong, but i remember someone saying that Sweden has incredibly low capital gains tax rate in some special investment accounts (like low single digits) and that was the whole idea behind this type of funds (such as XBT provider, because you can keep those in the 'special' accounts). Right?
I am not sure how, and don't want to spend too much time investigating. XBT provider is referred to as a "uncollaterized debt instrument".
I managed to buy CXBTF in Fidelity, but some days there is no US market for it due to SEC complains about it.
I guess, i would have to use foreign exchange desk and pay $50 fee when i would like to sell it.
I bought it when btc was 4K or so, so that little tracker had done quite well in Roth, lol.

Ah, yes, that must be the "investeringssparkonto", meaning "investment savings account" Yes the tax is really low, but it is a tax you always pay, even when your assets go down.

Here's an example from the tax authority, i highlighted the important parts.

Example

Peter opens an investment savings account during the first quarter of 2020. He pays in SEK 40,000 during the first quarter and then an additional SEK 20,000 during the third quarter. During the year, the value of Peter's assets in the investment savings account increases (in addition to deposits made).
Calculation of capital base for investment savings account

Value and deposits


Amount

Value at the beginning of the first quarter (January 1)


0 kronor

Value at the beginning of the second quarter (April 1)


+ SEK 41,000

Value at the beginning of the third quarter (July 1)


+ SEK 43,000

Value at the beginning of the fourth quarter (October 1)


+ SEK 65,000

Deposits during the year


+ SEK 60,000

Sum of value and deposits


= SEK 209,000

To obtain the capital base, the sum of value and deposits must be divided by four:
SEK 209,000 ÷ 4 = SEK 52,250.
The standard income that is pre-filled in Peter's declaration

The standard income is calculated by multiplying the capital base by 1.25 percent. The standard income that will be pre-filled in Peter's tax return in 2021 will be SEK 653 (SEK 52,250 x 1.25 percent).
The standard income is taxed at 30 percent

Since the standard income is taxed at 30 percent in the income category capital, Peter will have to pay SEK 195 in tax on his investment savings account (30 percent of SEK 653). This is 0.375 percent of the capital base (0.375 percent of SEK 52,250).

[BobLawblaw]

SO FUCKING BORED.

Can we please hit $50k already?

I don't feel I'm asking for very much.

[JayJuanGee]

Speaking of Tesla. 11 hours to the premiere of Audi etron gt. It is a bit better looking than my VW CC, so I consider it. The problem is the battery is only for 400km.
https://www.progress.audi/progress/en/day-of-progress.html

Nice car:



Appropriate car to show up at a 100k party.

If guys were talking about black and pink helicopters for the $100k party, then surely they should be able to currently afford, with ease, the black and pink audi with BTC prices around $47k .... no?

SO FUCKING BORED.

Can we please hit $50k already?

I don't feel I'm asking for very much.

Get a grip... Blllllaaaaaawwwwwwbbbbbb..

There is hardly no difference between $47k and $50k, except as I already posted, I am suspecting that BTC prices might end up shooting into the $58k to $62.5k price arena, once we break above $50k... just a random, tentative feeling.

[Richy_T]

i will never get it why people would invest in shitcoins.

Rubes, predators and rubes who think they're predators.

I sold some Bitcoin to a friend a while back. I've explained to him many times why Bitcoin is such a good purchase. He immediately exchanged it for Neos on the basis of another friend who "made a bunch" trading alts. Didn't take him long to regret that one. He now holds some Bitcoin again. Not sure how long he'll be able to keep himself from doing something with it.

[Hueristic]

Silk.Road.2021.1080p.Bluray.DTS-HD.MA.5.1.X264-EVOx

Downloading, thanks.

what movie is this, related to Bitcoin? I tried to open but it in Korean language

I believe it is about this former forum user:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5341

Actually he used the Moniker "Altoid" I believe.