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Bitcoin (BTC) is gearing up for a comeback which should lead it to repeat classic bull run years 2013 and 2017, analysts are arguing.

As $42,400 local highs appeared on July 31, narratives around the market are flipping back to a bullish Bitcoin "supercycle."


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July 31, 2021, 06:06:11 PM
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Unfortunately, their guaranteed predictions never come true, so the next narrative is always ready to be released once defending the previous version of The TruthTM has become untenable. That's why all the Independent ThinkersTM switch narratives at the same time - they're ultimately getting them from just a few sources.

At first we were all going to die from the vax - the narrative just fit too well with the classic "depopulation agenda". Once that didn't materialize, they tried the "be afraid of side effects" route. That one wasn't working too well, since it's too easy to realize that side effects (even excluding death) from COVID are orders of magnitude more likely & more severe than from any of the vax.

Now we shifted to "we will die from the vax later" and "infertility" - narratives which are sufficiently long term that they can be milked for a while before they have to be replaced due to actual reality disproving them.

This is the perfect example of what I like to call the "Invisible Dragon" argument. It goes like this:

I have an invisible dragon sitting next to me.
Prove it does not exist.


Any argument made will result in a simple explanation that expands the powers of the invisible dragon. It doesn't displace air because it has no mass. You can't touch it because matter bends around it. And so forth and so on. The root of the problem is the person making the assertion is demanding that other people *disprove* the assertion when the responsibility for proving the assertion is that of the asserter.

The only way to handle this argument is to walk away.

Same thing here: The virus will kill people in a month by the millions. Then a year. Then 10 years. Then "infertility". Always things that can't be tested, can't be proven, and when they do fail you just slip in another argument.

It's a lot like the Millerites in the 1830's. This nutcase bunch attracted thousands by saying the world would end in 1843. When that didn't happen a "mistake" was found and it was 1844. Then it became "soon" and the sect split into the 7th day Adventists (nutcakes) and Jehovah's Witnesses. And they roll along to this day, saying the end of the world will be "soon". After all, try to prove the world "won't" end next week.....

Annoying that people still fall for this crap.

 Did you mean "The vaccine"?

 Never mind all the hyperbole, we were blind-sided by a pandemic (regardless of its origins) and we in the West were pushed towards an new, experimental type of vaccine (which has killed people and likely has unknown, long-term, side-effects) rather than the tried and tested vaccines of our parents (inactivated or live attenuated, whole-virus vaccines which also come in nasal spray format now!) which they pursued in China against covid19.

 People voice their concerns and they have plenty of time to do it since they're locked down in their homes, the media amplifies the most outrageous examples and then anyone with a dissenting opinion gets categorized with the crazies.  This is a tried-and-true method of quelling dissent.

 Why isn't the Chinese vaccine approved for use in the US or the EU when the WHO has approved it?  Why haven't we entertained the Russian version of the vaccine which was the first-to-market and apparently very effective?  Why is the Russian vaccine still not approved for use in the EU, the USA or even by the WHO?  Is this not a global crisis?!  Are we actually following science or are we following politics here?  Even though my own government has decided not to go with the first available vaccine, they tell me that "The best vaccine to take is the one in your arm".  They also didn't follow the recommended dosage - they got 6 doses from each vial rather than the recommended 5 doses, then rather than waiting just 3 weeks between doses, they extended it to 16 weeks before the second shot to get more first doses into people until later when more vaccines arrived, they hastened the schedule but oh wait!  The safe and effective AstraZeneca vaccine is causing blood clotting issues and deaths!  They stopped using it altogether and then since the new shipments of the only two possibilities for approved vaccines left didn't match the number of first shots, they said we could get whichever vaccine we wanted for our second dose. 

 Excuse me, I would like to know if waiting this long between doses and mixing them affects the immunity offered by the vaccine?

 Shut the fuck up you unbelievable lunatic we're following the science!  Don't you know the Delta variant is coming to kill you and everyone you love?  Put your fuckin' mask on and get back in your house before we shoot you.  Fuckin' loser!  Jesus.

 If people could choose between mRNA and a traditional vaccine - maybe even the nasal spray, there would be a lot less noise.

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Which is worse? Mainstream media propaganda or social media propaganda?

News is classified as entertainment so they can lie or misrepresent things without real consequences.  The worse thing is people don't use critical thinking and just repeat what is socially acceptable in their little bubble.  Heck people still spend lots of money on homeopathy.  heck  

The worst is these people feel so smart and educated reading and watching elite propaganda and manipulation. The news media changed a lot around 10 years ago (at least in Germany) when some elites started to make donations to the German newspapers and channels. In 2010 you could watch on German TV in a documentation how the swine flu was a hoax made up by pharma. You could read critical articles about Soros or Bill Gates and that Gates is buying up the WHO. Unthinkable nowadays.

The news here put these people now on a throne. Gates was on German states TV Sunday at the best time 8pm talking about a virus. This guy is a Software engineer. There are thousands of other specialists before this freak who could talk about it. But he started donating to German newspapers and channels in 2017. So he gets the prime time spot.

People cant dont want to make the connections, that's actually the worst. It's not even hidden. They state on TV how they make so much money with their Investments. Gates claimed he makes $20 out of $1 with his vaccine investments. Now add up. This guy owns the who. He is invested in almost all vaccine companies on the planet. He donates serious money to news channels and papers. He donated millions to the guy (Drosten) who "invented" the covid pcr test. But nope, we are thin foil hats.

Edit: This is just 1% of whats going on with covid. There are bigger shadows behind this. Gates is involved but he is the public face to distract.

And nope, I dont believe in 5g, flat earth or lizard people. This another sad fact that the powers in charge throw in such comical theories so the "smart" people do not consider the real serious topics we mention. Instead they think they super smart and funny and call critical thinking people flat earthers or lizard believers. But at the end, history always shows that people who think critical were always isolated by society. Funny enough, the guy who said the earth is round, was one of these who was made fun of while the others who made fun of him belived it's flat.

Not to mention the Germans in 1933 who thought their newspapers would never lie to them. While they made fun of people who warned about Hitler.
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Is this ONLY pertaining to allowing bitcoin or is it a broader policy allowing shitcoins, too?

Maybe a link would be helpful to attempt to suss out some details, if there are some details available.
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Now that we've proven Godwin's law....in real news, bitcoin's looking as bullish as a bovine with two dicks.

Yeah, I知 not vaccinated, I have huge doubts about the severity of covid & what the real agenda might be but FFS, can we leave that shit out of the WO.

So about bitcoin, $45,000 next week, maybe?
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Now that we've proven Godwin's law....in real news, bitcoin's looking as bullish as a bovine with two dicks.

Yeah, I知 not vaccinated, I have huge doubts about the severity of covid & what the real agenda might be but FFS, can we leave that shit out of the WO.

So about bitcoin, $45,000 next week, maybe?

I'll wait a few more hours if the latest pump doesn't form another bart, but if not, i guess YES  Smiley
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July 31, 2021, 07:55:43 PM

I cannot believe it...before it was all..sell, sell sell, but now MSM gives 700K and 4mil target within 24hr.
Manipulating much?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2021/07/31/one-analyst-has-bitcoin-reaching-4-million/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoins-terminal-value-is-really-700000-crypto-investor-171402026.html

Of course, I ignore them in both directions, but what a bunch of hoodlums.
bought some earlier today...i never sell into a rising market, only buy or hodl.
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Now that we've proven Godwin's law....in real news, bitcoin's looking as bullish as a bovine with two dicks.

Yeah, I知 not vaccinated, I have huge doubts about the severity of covid & what the real agenda might be but FFS, can we leave that shit out of the WO.

So about bitcoin, $45,000 next week, maybe?

I'll wait a few more hours if the latest pump doesn't form another bart, but if not, i guess YES  Smiley

After, like a dozen tries to break down the $40k resistance, one hour from now will be the first full 24hrs of $40k+ since May. Don't Bears start hibernation some time around late summer?


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Now that we've proven Godwin's law....in real news, bitcoin's looking as bullish as a bovine with two dicks.

Yeah, I知 not vaccinated, I have huge doubts about the severity of covid & what the real agenda might be but FFS, can we leave that shit out of the WO.

So about bitcoin, $45,000 next week, maybe?

Sure man, I'll do my best to leave it out going forward. It is what it is.

Meantime Not sure about bitcoin. No real major news between 30k and 41k, just seems to be walking around a bit like a drunk on speed. I still think 60k is a reasonable base price, and it if it stabilized around that level we'd be in pretty ok shape for awhile.
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Now that we've proven Godwin's law....in real news, bitcoin's looking as bullish as a bovine with two dicks.

Yeah, I知 not vaccinated, I have huge doubts about the severity of covid & what the real agenda might be but FFS, can we leave that shit out of the WO.

So about bitcoin, $45,000 next week, maybe?

I'll wait a few more hours if the latest pump doesn't form another bart, but if not, i guess YES  Smiley

too late I opened this thread below:


Re: Bitcoin will not be able to stay above $40K for 10 consecutive days ever again!


Note in response to proudhon's

threads for 35k and 30k

I entered a preemptive strike.  I did a thread for 40k


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Note this is an homage to his persistent attacks on BTC price.



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 Why isn't the Chinese vaccine approved for use in the US or the EU when the WHO has approved it?  Why haven't we entertained the Russian version of the vaccine which was the first-to-market and apparently very effective?  Why is the Russian vaccine still not approved for use in the EU, the USA or even by the WHO?  Is this not a global crisis?!  Are we actually following science or are we following politics here?  Even though my own government has decided not to go with the first available vaccine, they tell me that "The best vaccine to take is the one in your arm".  They also didn't follow the recommended dosage - they got 6 doses from each vial rather than the recommended 5 doses, then rather than waiting just 3 weeks between doses, they extended it to 16 weeks before the second shot to get more first doses into people until later when more vaccines arrived, they hastened the schedule but oh wait!  The safe and effective AstraZeneca vaccine is causing blood clotting issues and deaths!  They stopped using it altogether and then since the new shipments of the only two possibilities for approved vaccines left didn't match the number of first shots, they said we could get whichever vaccine we wanted for our second dose. 


to be approved in US or EU, a drug or therapeutic agent has to apply to FDA or EMEA respectively, deposited by the firm or institution ready to commercialize it.
these agencies can separately approve or not, a full dossier after study.

Have the full dossiers of these vaccines been deposited (sinopharm pekin, sinopharm wuhan, sinovac, etc) ? by whom ?
if yes, have they been refused ?
I don't know the response, do you ?

more generally, the results of these vaccines is not well known, or not fully published.
this is a subject of general interest, elements of response will be welcomed.
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jul/31/out-of-control-and-rising-why-bitcoin-has-nigerias-government-in-a-panic
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This is the perfect example of what I like to call the "Invisible Dragon" argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot


Same thing here: The virus will kill people in a month by the millions. Then a year. Then 10 years. Then "infertility". Always things that can't be tested, can't be proven, and when they do fail you just slip in another argument.

Freudian slip?
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Is this ONLY pertaining to allowing bitcoin or is it a broader policy allowing shitcoins, too?

Maybe a link would be helpful to attempt to suss out some details, if there are some details available.

Are there even any pure Bitcoin exchanges? It would seem that this would include other coins by default.
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Soon ya will witness the Picture. And the loss will be in Trillions Smiley

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Sorry Arrie, i broke the Order of being Quiet  Grin

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Arrie is the type of a Guy id take orders from so respect the lad  Grin
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