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How do y'all take your coffee when chart watching?
I usually do a sugar and splash or milk/heavy whipping cream but Im out of sugar!  So I did manage to find a bag of brown sugar and tried it. To my surprise it pairs well! 

With sugar and milk. And drugs.
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Here since you are talking about an age 62 years or 60 years a person mostly wants to retire. Among them there are some people who usually want to roam around or travel abroad and there are few people who want to invest in various activities. Now the important thing is that since Bitcoin gives more profit every four years and it has a time frame of four years it is very important to think about what he wants to do next. Many people think that after the age of 62 he will not need any income because he has enough money and assets. And many think that if he is healthy till the end of his life or the last days of his life, it may be important for him to invest and learn new things.  Around the age of 60, most people wish they could travel and take vacations.Very few people can be found here who take the decision to invest around the age of sixty.

Overall, I agree with you, but we had started out the conversation talking about whether to take full social security benefits that might be around 67 years old or later, versus taking social security at the earlier age which is 62 years old.

So whether a person is still working or not can be a variety of reasons, including health care benefits are frequently tied to an employer, so it can be quite problematic (or expensive) to stop working unless you are able to have some assurance that your health care costs can be covered.

And, sure another question is whether a person would still be investing or not, and you cannot answer that question on behalf of everyone in terms of if they have enough or if they have reached fuck you status (meaning that they can stop working), so the younger that you are, the more years that you would need to be able to sustain yourself from whatever investment that you have and whatever standard of living that you are expecting to have.

In traditional investing practices, even if a person may have been investing in regular stocks, property and maybe has a 401k, he still might not get to fuck you status after putting forth a lot of efforts after 30-40 years, and yeah does he need to make it to fuck you status before pulling the fuck you lever?  I would think so because it could be quite painful to outlive your money because you become even less and less able to earn money as you get older... so I am not even going to say if someone might be able to get to fuck you status prior to reaching 60 years of age, and surely we consider that bitcoin could likely allow us to reduce the timeline that we need to get to fuck you status down by 50% or more, so long as we do not screw it up, which still means that it could still take 15-20 years to reach fuck you status, so if the BTC investor is just getting into bitcoin, then yeah, maybe they already have investments that they could carry over from their traditional investments and allocate into bitcoin, and maybe get to fuck you status more assuredly and more quickly than they would have otherwise.  We cannot answer these matters for others, even though we might still suggest that even if we have some potentially better investment asset such as bitcoin, that still does not mean that some of us might not end up screwing it up by overinvesting, underinvesting or maybe even trading or getting involved in shitcoins.

We can have goals to stop working and/or to stop investing by the time that we reach a certain age (such as 60), but that does not necessarily work out for everyone, and some guys even claim that they get some pleasures out of working, which may well have some truth to it, so we cannot suggest that everyone wants to stop working and/or to travel.

Very few people can be found here who take the decision to invest around the age of sixty.
Where is here? WO? Your country?

Warren Buffet (93 years old), is located here  Cheesy, still invests like a 20-30 year old with ONE stock at 50% of his company investment portfolio.
MSTR had borrowed money to invest in bitcoin, essentially on margin, and M. Saylor is 58 yo.

Good points.  Better said than this here cat.

Warren Buffet (93 years old), is located here  Cheesy, still invests like a 20-30 year old with ONE stock at 50% of his company investment portfolio.
MSTR had borrowed money to invest in bitcoin, essentially on margin, and M. Saylor is 58 yo.
'Warren Buffet, M. Saylor, Colonel Sanders' some off more people is the golden man, I was talking about most the lazy people. Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

Even if you are mostly correct, you are still generalizing a lot.

The BTC halving is now less than 100 days away.

New ATH incoming?
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Wow those are not even your own words.. You are just saying what bitcoin magazine said in its tweet..

Don't you at least have your own words?

Another thing, as I type this post, all of the estimators that I see are more than 100 days.. so there is anywhere between 102 days and 113 days.. .. but yeah, no, .. . I am not going to do a whole survey of the matter.. even though that claim of less than 100 days seems a wee bit exaggerated.

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Of course it is. I said Trustworthy...
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Gorgeous. Give me a fully functioning robot like this and I can dump my GF any day.

See my edit above. AI is getting (too) intelligent.

There is something to be said about "full-cooperation."

The headaches of many guy folks.

I am not going to say that all women do not cooperate, and maybe sometimes they are ride or die.. so then the problem would be with the guy wanting something MOAR.  Maybe even genetically, Guys do tend to have a bit of a wanting MOAR problem.
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JustIN Bieber: Exceptional Trustworthy Females (ETFs) win approval.

AI? (can't see knuckles)
Of course it is. I said Trustworthy...
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Gorgeous. Give me a fully functioning robot like this and I can dump my GF any day.
See my edit above. AI is getting (too) intelligent.
Oh my words....!!!!......Gorgeous....!!!
For a reference her face beauty score is 84 while Emma Watson got just 75
 

Those good looking scores got me pretty curious, and had to try it out.. It took a few minutes to set up to find a foto and then move the foto in accordance with their instructions.. and in the end, I did much better than expected.  I suppose which picture and which website is chosen can make a difference too.. After doing the analysis, the website that I used gave some descriptions of strengths and weaknesses.
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How do y'all take your coffee when chart watching?
I usually do a sugar and splash or milk/heavy whipping cream but Im out of sugar!  So I did manage to find a bag of brown sugar and tried it. To my surprise it pairs well! 

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How do y'all take your coffee when chart watching?
I usually do a sugar and splash or milk/heavy whipping cream but Im out of sugar!  So I did manage to find a bag of brown sugar and tried it. To my surprise it pairs well! 

With sugar and milk. And drugs.

Fun fact: I’ve never had coffee. I did have a neighbor growing up who used to drink his coffee with mushrooms in the morning. I thought that was weird until I got older.

This could be the last week without an ETF approval. I feel like there’s a good chance we could see a massive price swing next week. There will certainly be big news one way or the other.
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....

....I’ve never had coffee. I did have a neighbor growing up who used to drink his coffee with mushrooms in the morning. .....

Do you live on another planet?

Some people cannot consume caffeinated drinks and decaffeinated coffee is largely meaningless, imho.
I did not drink coffee regularly until my 20ies; I have a cup daily now, but not more.
Many younger adults I know (family and their friends) don't drink coffee either...some prefer Dr. Pepper (it's a Texas "thing", mostly, but i saw it at a convenience store in London, surprisingly). If you see it-give it a try as it tastes differently from Coca-cola and Pepsi.

EDIT: sorry that I was answering a comment addressed to somebody else  Cheesy
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A few years ago, I took a shortcut while making a hat for cygan.  I looked and looked for his original avatar in a large enough size to work with but the largest image was only 80X80 px and the square patch on the hat is about 250X250 px.  Never having seen a 1 Deutsche mark coin before, I didn't know the basis for the "bitcoin" he was using - I thought it was an image of a collectible but I coudn't find it anywhere.  Fast forward to today and after a couple of PMs I was enlightened.  I asked him if the 1994 on the coin had any significance and he said "No" and suggested that 2009 would be more appropriate.

 This is what he used to use:



and here's the new coin I minted today because as you know, there were no Deutsche marks minted after ~2001 (it can never be easy):



and subsequently placed on a newly constructed original:



as avatar-szed it looks like this


 Originally, I only made this one and only in this size:

 

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A few years ago, I took a shortcut while making a hat for cygan.  I looked and looked for his original avatar in a large enough size to work with but the largest image was only 80X80 px and the square patch on the hat is about 250X250 px.  Never having seen a 1 Deutsche mark coin before, I didn't know the basis for the "bitcoin" he was using - I thought it was an image of a collectible but I coudn't find it anywhere.  Fast forward to today and after a couple of PMs I was enlightened.  I asked him if the 1994 on the coin had any significance and he said "No" and suggested that 2009 would be more appropriate.

 This is what he used to use:



and here's the new coin I minted today because as you know, there were no Deutsche marks minted after ~2001 (it can never be easy):



and subsequently placed on a newly constructed original:



as avatar-szed it looks like this


 Originally, I only made this one and only in this size:

 

I think all the corners I cut have now come back to bite me Smiley (only wrt hats though)


Very nice!
One comment- in avatar size bitcoin word is not very clear, although it is great on original.
I wonder if it is possible to increase contrast somehow (when it is an avatar size)?
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....I’ve never had coffee. I did have a neighbor growing up who used to drink his coffee with mushrooms in the morning. .....

Do you live on another planet?

Some people cannot consume caffeinated drinks and decaffeinated coffee is largely meaningless, imho.
I did not drink coffee regularly until my 20ies; I have a cup daily now, but not more.
Many younger adults I know (family and their friends) don't drink coffee either...some prefer Dr. Pepper (it's a Texas "thing", mostly, but i saw it at a convenience store in London, surprisingly). If you see it-give it a try as it tastes differently from Coca-cola and Pepsi.


Oh crap. You quoted my deletion. I was just being my normal asshat self, lol.
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....I’ve never had coffee. I did have a neighbor growing up who used to drink his coffee with mushrooms in the morning. .....

Do you live on another planet?

Some people cannot consume caffeinated drinks and decaffeinated coffee is largely meaningless, imho.
I did not drink coffee regularly until my 20ies; I have a cup daily now, but not more.
Many younger adults I know (family and their friends) don't drink coffee either...some prefer Dr. Pepper (it's a Texas "thing", mostly, but i saw it at a convenience store in London, surprisingly). If you see it-give it a try as it tastes differently from Coca-cola and Pepsi.


Oh crap. You beat my deletion. I was just being my normal asshat self, lol.

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I really like this, doing more than most exchanges in the space have



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I really like this, doing more than most exchanges in the space have



https://twitter.com/vaneck_us/status/1743300722928619779

Good to know...I am planning to slowly sell some of my money market funds into bitcoin ETFs in my IRAs (as we go from currently "lucrative" 5.4% to 4-4.5% interest in 2024, presumably). I was leaning toward Invesco or Fidelity before, but now will give VanEck a look, for sure. My money market funds are just a portfolio stabilizer...and now I want to "destabilize" it a bit, ha ha.
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 Dude!  I smell another song brewin'  Grin
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Great concept bro.
However, for now it will have to go on the back burner.
I recently got sucked into a band situation, so and now I gotta practice someone else's songs.
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