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Question: July 28 Closing Price:
<$3,000 - 5 (7.6%)
<$8,000 - 4 (6.1%)
$8,001-$8,500 - 2 (3%)
$8,501-$9,000 - 1 (1.5%)
$9,001-$9,500 - 9 (13.6%)
$9,501-$10,000 - 5 (7.6%)
$10,001-$10,500 - 6 (9.1%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 12 (18.2%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 6 (9.1%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 3 (4.5%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 3 (4.5%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3%)
$13,001-$13,500 - 1 (1.5%)
$13,501-$14,000 - 2 (3%)
>$14,000 - 2 (3%)
>$18,000 - 3 (4.5%)
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April 09, 2015, 03:43:41 PM

and yes , of course if *all* fiat currencies experience simultaneous collapse alongside *all* commodity markets , leaving no other viable alternative store of value other than btc (a highly unlikely basically apocalyptic fantasy scenario) ... then yes , we would expect the overall value of btc to drastically increase
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There are those who claim Bitcoin was created by the NSA as the ultimate honeypot.  The reasoning goes something like this:

1.  Bitcoin attracts the criminal element <==prima facie, empirically substantiated, currently held axiomatic.
2.  Those attracted to Bitcoin are criminals <==somewhat of a logical leap, but again, shown to be true in 99% of the cases.  Remaining 1% are weirdos who like losing money, so who cares.
4.  Bitcoin is instrumental in fighting crime by impoverishing those who hold it. <==not life-affirming, handicapping the criminal contingent.
5.  What's more, criminals pay for their own demise (arrest->confiscate BTC->sell BTC (to criminals, who else)->rinse->repeat). <==PROFIT!

Bitcoin is best crime-fighting tool ever, Q.E.D. Undecided

No joke.  A year ago, at the NY hearings, the FBI testified that they were not worried about bitcoin, so I read.  To this day, I have not read of anyone from US law enforcement calling for it to be banned.  Not even after the ransomware attacks against government offices.

Objectively, catching Ross Ulbricht must have been much easier than catching a traditional drug dealer, since much of the investigation could have been done remotely, by agents sitting at their desks, with hot coffee and donuts at hand...



have you red the whole story regarding Ross and his two buddies Bridges and Force?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/03/31/force-and-bridges/

It was obviously set up from the beginning.

Silk Road Sealed Document Dump Day (Full Text):
http://qntra.net/2015/04/silk-road-sealed-document-dump-day-full-text/

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April 09, 2015, 03:46:27 PM

the fun part about the alts is ... they're all priced in btc ... so if btc ultimately fails / severely loses value , so does every single alt coin ...

If that logic is good, and BTC is priced in USD, then if the USD fails/severely loses value Huh SO WOULD BTC!
And here I was, cheering the doom of that fiat economy... and now I gotta prop up the USD just to keep my BTC alive?
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no, because bitcoin isn't attached only to usd, but to fiat in general, and its value is indipendent anyway, we give value to btc basing on fiat, but if all fiat currencies crash, we can give btc a value based on goods, we don't need fiat actually

Ah, I see.  But altcoins can't be traded for other altcoins, goods or fiat?  That sure makes them less attractive Sad
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April 09, 2015, 03:50:44 PM

i'd really love to see , and wish i had the capital to create this - an exchange that prices all of the alts in fiat currency values , not btc values - presumably this has got to be in the works , somewhere , the drawback is basically a btc/alt exchange is a lot easier to establish regulatory-wise than a fiat/alt exchange
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April 09, 2015, 03:53:31 PM

@dreamspark

I see you got my post deleted. I'm guessing you're either american or german since there seems to be some irony deficiency at play here. Let me spell it out for you: I thought what you achieved was very impressive. Good on you!
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April 09, 2015, 03:54:41 PM

(yes of course unless you live in whereverafuckistan ... then ... yknow ... regulation is probably not much of an issue)
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April 09, 2015, 03:58:31 PM

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April 09, 2015, 03:58:50 PM

if we all buy now and hold we can all realize massive paper profits
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April 09, 2015, 04:01:01 PM

Hello, my name is Mr. asrds and I come from, uh... someplace far away.
[...Yes, that'll do.]

@12345mm:  There exists a cryptocurrency the_name_of_which_must_never_be_written which could be traded directly for a fiat currency the_name_of_which_must_never_be_written_just_to_stay_on_the_safe_side.

yeah they every once in a while try to legitimize 1 or 2 of the alts by giving them usd values instead of trading them directly against btc ... some have been that way for a while , some have only recently been given that privilege ... i'm talking an alt exchange that's got 50-100 or whatever # of alts ALL priced in usd value (or whatever fiat value) ... with the goal being to ultimately disconnect every single viable alt from the btc value
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April 09, 2015, 04:01:02 PM

no option of hodling fiat because I have no patience for trading at the moment?
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April 09, 2015, 04:04:00 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Sideways again I see. Small dip overnight didn't last long.

Ho hum.
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April 09, 2015, 04:07:50 PM

There are those who claim Bitcoin was created by the NSA as the ultimate honeypot.  The reasoning goes something like this:

1.  Bitcoin attracts the criminal element <==prima facie, empirically substantiated, currently held axiomatic.
2.  Those attracted to Bitcoin are criminals <==somewhat of a logical leap, but again, shown to be true in 99% of the cases.  Remaining 1% are weirdos who like losing money, so who cares.
4.  Bitcoin is instrumental in fighting crime by impoverishing those who hold it. <==not life-affirming, handicapping the criminal contingent.
5.  What's more, criminals pay for their own demise (arrest->confiscate BTC->sell BTC (to criminals, who else)->rinse->repeat). <==PROFIT!

Bitcoin is best crime-fighting tool ever, Q.E.D. Undecided

No joke.  A year ago, at the NY hearings, the FBI testified that they were not worried about bitcoin, so I read.  To this day, I have not read of anyone from US law enforcement calling for it to be banned.  Not even after the ransomware attacks against government offices.

Objectively, catching Ross Ulbricht must have been much easier than catching a traditional drug dealer, since much of the investigation could have been done remotely, by agents sitting at their desks, with hot coffee and donuts at hand...



have you red the whole story regarding Ross and his two buddies Bridges and Force?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/03/31/force-and-bridges/

It was obviously set up from the beginning.

Silk Road Sealed Document Dump Day (Full Text):
http://qntra.net/2015/04/silk-road-sealed-document-dump-day-full-text/

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You and Jorge agree.  He is saying that various TLAs are using Bitcoin to entrap people.  He has seen through one more layer of government deception than you tho.  He thinks that the rabbit hole goes deeper.  It's not just a few rogue agents, the whole bitcoin thing was created by TLAs to entrap us.
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April 09, 2015, 04:13:45 PM

is it just me or has someone big been creating support at around 240-245 ever since  the 25th of March? Manipulation or a great buying opportunity for a metawhale to buy against the final wave of a determined bear market?
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April 09, 2015, 04:18:43 PM

is it just me or has someone big been creating support at around 240-245 ever since  the 25th of March? Manipulation or a great buying opportunity for a metawhale to buy against the final wave of a determined bear market?

I guess we'll find out later -maybe next Monday- when BIT hits the Wall Street. Who should really care? Only those who have no coins (or very few). I'd worry if I were among them. Now I just picked up the "Holding my BTC with confidence" from the poll. Wink
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April 09, 2015, 04:20:11 PM


Where did you find that chart?

Looks scary. Coinorama.net doesn't work for me anymore
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April 09, 2015, 04:22:42 PM

Crazy Bitcoin Girl seems pissed off.

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Notlambchop you're cute  Wink
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April 09, 2015, 04:30:25 PM

when they perfect human cloning i'll take ten of those ...
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April 09, 2015, 04:36:47 PM

@dreamspark

I see you got my post deleted. I'm guessing you're either american or german since there seems to be some irony deficiency at play here. Let me spell it out for you: I thought what you achieved was very impressive. Good on you!

Lol I didn't get it deleted, if you look above I was moaning that our posts were deleted. I understood, I didn't mean for what I was saying to come across like that, context, irony and sarcasm are often lost on the internet. Oh and I'm English. Thanks!
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