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April 13, 2015, 08:25:57 AM

Closing shop folks



Move along, there's nothing to see here anymore.

Where is that? Poland?

yep. warsaw.

From what I understood, they were being attacked by Trolls and scared for their lives?

No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.
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April 13, 2015, 08:43:06 AM

People dont like the BF because "power". But bitcoin wont survive without  some sort of intelligent benign leadership. But this leadership will have  "power", and people wont like that... Rinse, Repeat.

You either have cake, or you eat cake. Until people get that into their heads, bitcoin will have some tough times ahead..

You obviously haven't followed Bitcoin development on GitHub. There is a " intelligent benign leadership" very much in place, and it has nothing to do with BF. Developers with Gavin as head wouldn't listen to BF if they think something BF is pushing is not good for Bitcoin. All people who's influence on development is significant are employed by large Bitcoin startups, and are very much interested for Bitcoin to succeed so those startups get to successful IPOs when they would monetize their role as core developers. There are no better guardians of Bitcoins then these group of guys, and they can do very well without Bitcoin Foundation, thank you very much.

I'm still on the lists, so considered myself as informed as the next man, but I hope you can clarify things otherwise.

Can you explain this leadership structure that is in place, but has nothing to do with the Foundation?  I obviously missed that one.  Roll Eyes

Are you just speculating ( thinking out loud) when you say  "Developers with Gavin as head wouldn't listen to BF if they think something BF is pushing is not good for Bitcoin", or do you have a particular exchange that typifies this view?  Something other than the usual discussions and different views that exist in a normal, healthy environment ( as opposed to this toxic thread).

Explain to me also how these successful startups are going to "monetize their role as core developers"?  That sounds ominous. Like they are just in it for the money, or something.  Grin

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There are no better guardians of Bitcoins then these group of guys, and they can do very well without Bitcoin Foundation, thank you very much

So, unelected developers with a purely commercial interest in bitcoin ( in 'owning' it) would, in your eyes, be a better, more transparent and democratic solution for the management of bitcoin than a democratically elected foundation, comprising of members drawn from both business and users.

Dont get me wrong, I am a developer, and developers have an important role to play in the shaping of a project of this nature. But developers are by their nature very narrow in their perspective, and a more broadly based leadership is needed, with business, technology and end user perspectives.
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April 13, 2015, 09:33:00 AM

Closing shop folks



Move along, there's nothing to see here anymore.

Where is that? Poland?

yep. warsaw.

From what I understood, they were being attacked by Trolls and scared for their lives?

No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.

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No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.



I suppose people need to think beyond right and wrong, smart way or foolish way, black or white. We need to think a bit more productively, more creatively, more rationally; that we think from a different angle.
Think without fear or favour, neither blind optimism nor sour skeptisism.

But then, after all that, there are still people like you.... Were sense of humour bypasses going cheap in your town?  Grin Grin
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Monday morning, and price hasn't spiked 1 penny....
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April 13, 2015, 10:15:33 AM

Little dump to $233 on finex

It's the wrong kind of fireworks today

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                                     What will it be?
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No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.



I suppose people need to think beyond right and wrong, smart way or foolish way, black or white. We need to think a bit more productively, more creatively, more rationally; that we think from a different angle.
Think without fear or favour, neither blind optimism nor sour skeptisism.

But then, after all that, there are still people like you.... Were sense of humour bypasses going cheap in your town?  Grin Grin


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...aaand

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April 13, 2015, 10:27:25 AM

Amazing that someone who keeps accusing Jorge of 'strawman' arguments, then proceeds on a massive rant made of hay.  Ad people who claim to be 'scientists' saying this is a great comment, can you not see the glaring contradictions, fallacies and errors.

It's such a shame that there are so many folks in the world who have been taken in by this 'disruptive' crap -- the reality is not 'democratization' but more concentrated power in the hands of not the rich but the (unelected) elite super-rich.

But Jorge pointed this out and then it all went silent -- because everyone who disagrees with the great BTC world view is a troll.

Keep banging away boys...the big money is surely round the corner


Mostly sure this account is now hacked. I'm considering adding it to The List. This is sad; really. Nanobrain used to be a great commenter back then in here.  Sad
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Amazing that someone who keeps accusing Jorge of 'strawman' arguments, then proceeds on a massive rant made of hay.  Ad people who claim to be 'scientists' saying this is a great comment, can you not see the glaring contradictions, fallacies and errors.

It's such a shame that there are so many folks in the world who have been taken in by this 'disruptive' crap -- the reality is not 'democratization' but more concentrated power in the hands of not the rich but the (unelected) elite super-rich.

But Jorge pointed this out and then it all went silent -- because everyone who disagrees with the great BTC world view is a troll.

Keep banging away boys...the big money is surely round the corner


Mostly sure this account is now hacked. I'm considering adding it to The List. This is sad; really. Nanobrain used to be a great commenter back then in here.  Sad

Your list is almost same as mine  Cheesy
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Shorts begging for cheap coins ... guys get a life you're stinking up the place with your desperation and nasty humourless trolling.
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Bearstamp wants to take the lead, BTC-E follows.
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April 13, 2015, 12:06:15 PM

Yep let's see if we can get more volume for this potential little pennant break down.
Adding to shorts if it convincingly breaks  Grin

Might take a few more days to break in either direction tho.
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No. Idiot bulltards like you convinced them that they would be farting through silk within a month. Didn't work out.

fap...fap...fap...fap

I suppose people need to think beyond right and wrong, smart way or foolish way, black or white. We need to think a bit more productively, more creatively, more rationally; that we think from a different angle. 
Think without fear or favour, neither blind optimism nor sour skeptisism.

But then, after all that, there are still people like you.... Were sense of humour bypasses going cheap in your town?  Grin Grin


Again

[furious masturbation]


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Another bulltard coward.  Run away....
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April 13, 2015, 12:26:39 PM

Right.  And, not for the first time I'm reminding you that straw man arguments such as "those who claim that bitcoin will be the solution to poverty, corruption, fraud, bank abuse, oppression, censorship, etc., etc.. " are bullshit and I'm calling you on it.  Again.  I know hundreds of people within this community both on the technical and financial side and I can't think of a single one of them that sees it in the way as you're trying to paint it here.  Not one. 

It's a tool.  Like I said in my previous post, you're deliberately, disingenuously conflating tool and solution.  I know you're smarter than that hence my facetious tone.

Some tools, like crossbows for example, are known to have levelled the playing field somewhat between the previously empowered and the disenfranchised.  No longer did you need to be a trained full time professional belonging to a paid standing army to be useful on the battlefield.

Some tools, like surveillance databases, armoured cars and the like are known to have been of more use to those with privilege and power than those without.  Did we throw out computers because IBM helped the nazis track dissidents and minorities with their punched card technology?

Some tools, like hammers, are just tools and, as you've astutely pointed out, can be used to almost equal effect by anyone wielding them.  They are used to build both labour camps and hospitals.

The Internet is a tool that can be used by anyone for almost any purpose but, generally speaking, a society with ubiquitous access to a free and open Internet is a greater threat to the .1% than to the rest of us.

There's a possibility that Bitcoin is like a hammer.  Just a tool that anyone can use for better or for worse.  That's certainly how it looks right now.  But I suspect Bitcoin is more like the Internet.  Anyone can indeed use it but, generally, the level playing field its widespread adoption presents would be something very threatening indeed. 

As you've also said, they'll try to ban it, control it etc.  We're watching that.  It's fun.

You're certainly old enough to remember the painful death throes of the old guard music industry and how it flapped about and sued the hell out of anyone that moved in an effort to forestall the inevitable change that the Internet was bringing to their business models.

Well that ended in a complete overhaul of the industry in spite of their best, and most cunning efforts. 

But we know, for whatever reason, that you've closed your mind to anything positive about Bitcoin and are determined to repeat ad nauseam negative arguments regardless of whether anyone's shot them down or not so if it were just the two of us here, I'd certainly save my breath.

The key here really is that Bitcoin is a disruptive technology and if anything needed disrupting, it's the current global financial industry and the frankly horrific level of global inequality that it supports. 

If you'll forgive me, and I'm sure you will, I'm going to put you back on ignore now.  It's not like you ever say anything you haven't said before in one way or another.  Cool


Amazing that someone who keeps accusing Jorge of 'strawman' arguments, then proceeds on a massive rant made of hay.  Ad people who claim to be 'scientists' saying this is a great comment, can you not see the glaring contradictions, fallacies and errors.

It's such a shame that there are so many folks in the world who have been taken in by this 'disruptive' crap -- the reality is not 'democratization' but more concentrated power in the hands of not the rich but the (unelected) elite super-rich.

But Jorge pointed this out and then it all went silent -- because everyone who disagrees with the great BTC world view is a troll.

Keep banging away boys...the big money is surely round the corner


KFR's post is a bit wordy perhaps, but "made of hay"? How exactly? Because he holds the opinion that Bitcoin/crypto is a tool that he is hoping will be used to disrupt an industry that many people around the world perceive as in dire need of being disrupted? How dare he having an idealistic viewpoint!

Seriously though: if I see anything fallacious in the quoted block above, it's your own response. How exactly did you get from KFR's argument about the financial industry and "disruptive tools" (whether you agree with him or not is a different matter) to "Ha ha, price is tanking, and will continue to do so!".

I remember reading your posts in late 2013 and generally thought they were interesting, but the last ones I remember sounded mostly bitter. I'm not trying to be a jerk when I say that I hope it's not because you lost more money than is advisable in this strange financial experiment of ours.
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