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Bagatell
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July 30, 2015, 02:08:27 PM |
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Can you short Ether on Kraken?
Looks like it. |
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ronald98
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July 30, 2015, 02:12:07 PM |
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So Etherum just got added on Kraken.com ?
Very interesting how the price is going to develop for ETH...
So much about the hype about Ethereum being a Bitcoin add on and not a competing currency. Color me shocked.  Vitalik said Ethereum was not a competing currency to Bitcoin, but either panic dumped his IPO Bitcoins or deliberately sold them at times he knew would do the most possible damage to Bitcoin's price, like immediately after the Bitstamp hack. I hope he doesn't use his founder Ethereum stake to do more damage to Bitcoin's price. I remember that. Can you short Ether on Kraken? I know you can short Bitcoin there, but I don't know if you can short anything else. Their fee page already has the fees for trading Ethereum available, although the leverage information is blank https://www.kraken.com/help/feesETH/EUR Base Currency: Ether(ETH) Quote Currency: Euro(EUR) Fee Volume Currency: US Dollar(USD) Margin Call Level: 80% Margin Liquidation Level: 40% Available Buy Leverage: - Available Sell Leverage: - Margin Fee: None Margin Rollover: 0.05% per 24 hours The Bitcoin/Euro leverage information (below) isn't blank, which makes me think Ethereum leverage won't be available to begin with. Available Buy Leverage: 1.25, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 Available Sell Leverage: 1.25, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 |
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aztecminer
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July 30, 2015, 02:19:21 PM |
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because Bitcoin has no real connection to the world economy like Gold or Stocks have... Pumping or Dumping LTC has a much much bigger impact on Bitcoin then anything else... hmm... guess that means you won't be on a boat when the economic crisis happens.. me i am be on a boat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU |
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sAt0sHiFanClub
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July 30, 2015, 02:29:18 PM |
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.. me i am be on a boat.
Boats no good unless you have an island too.  |
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BlackSpidy
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July 30, 2015, 02:33:50 PM |
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Man, I'd be delighted to get some cheap(er) coins at $250! But alas, the price stays consistently above $280.
PS: the FUD trolls are getting less ambitious by the day! That is, if they show up at all. Whatever happened to that guy that said there would be double-digit bitcoin on the way!? Oh, well.
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Richy_T
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July 30, 2015, 02:49:25 PM |
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Surprise surprise... a payment method that most people don't accept is viewed as inconvenient. Yeah, that internet. You need a computer, then you need a modem and the drivers won't install and all those PPP settings and dial strings. And it ties up your phone line and your kid picks up and you disconnect. Never gonna catch on  |
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g3rszpi
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July 30, 2015, 02:50:56 PM |
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Surprise surprise... a payment method that most people don't accept is viewed as inconvenient. Yeah, that internet. You need a computer, then you need a modem and the drivers won't install and all those PPP settings and dial strings. And it ties up your phone line and your kid picks up and you disconnect. Never gonna catch on I miss those times lol |
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sAt0sHiFanClub
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July 30, 2015, 03:03:17 PM |
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Man, I'd be delighted to get some cheap(er) coins at $250! But alas, the price stays consistently above $280.
PS: the FUD trolls are getting less ambitious by the day! That is, if they show up at all. Whatever happened to that guy that said there would be double-digit bitcoin on the way!? Oh, well.
God love the hopium trolls. "I dont care how much it is!! I wanna buy it, because 2.1 million coins! Because anonymous!! Because I've got beans n' ammo in my basement!! |
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Richy_T
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July 30, 2015, 03:13:26 PM |
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Man, I'd be delighted to get some cheap(er) coins at $250! But alas, the price stays consistently above $280.
PS: the FUD trolls are getting less ambitious by the day! That is, if they show up at all. Whatever happened to that guy that said there would be double-digit bitcoin on the way!? Oh, well.
God love the hopium trolls. "I dont care how much it is!! I wanna buy it, because 2.1 million coins! Because anonymous!! Because I've got beans n' ammo in my basement!! I need to buy some beans. |
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Blazin8888
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July 30, 2015, 03:14:45 PM |
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Holy shit VPN coin out of China could be the next Tor..
The user is able to freely connect to the decentralized P2P VPN network freely through ways they choose. This allows for increased security. The static verification of identity can lead to security breaches, potentially causing the leak of sensitive information. Bitnet verifies the “identity” of its users dynamically through the blockchain, where the ever-changing credentials to log in are securely stored.
All of this information is also completely anonymous. Connection to a VPN node through Bitnet is virtually invisible because this network is decentralized. Once connected, you can see what they see, while nobody else can see you. This VPN is, in ways, the “first civilian TOR.”
Bitnet also enacts a unique domain system with virtually infinite possible combinations. The domain names are as follows: http://(wallet-address) without the parentheses.
Any business or enterprise may set up their own website on Bitnet with the only cost being server utilities. There is no required domain registration fee. Since this is P2P, a business may trade even outside of its regional limitations. This is especially useful in a communist state like China, where censorship is such a problem. You can see what you deem fit, not what the government deems fit for you. The list of applicable uses for Bitnet goes on from P2P instant messaging and phone systems; there’s a plethora of useful feature to use.
Tor and I2P are two similar projects to Bitnet. However, Tor and I2P receive heavy government and private funding because of their applicable uses in privacy and security. The developers behind Bitnet hope to create the third multi-node, decentralized client of importance.
In this sense, Bitnet really is a civilian implementation of Tor. Unlike the previous two, Bitnet is Chinese. Tor and I2P are American in origin and not necessarily tailored to the needs of people who need decentralized anonymity in the world. Bitnet comes in as a personalized system that can be suited to the needs of the individual user.
VPNCoin is the driving force behind Bitnet. It’s the epicenter of the utilities included in the client because the client is first and foremost an alt-coin wallet. It goes deeper than that, though. A decentralized trade market is embedded in Bitnet. Its intrinsic currency is obviously going to be VPNCoin.
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GaliX
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July 30, 2015, 03:16:28 PM |
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Holy shit VPN coin out of China could be the next Tor..
The user is able to freely connect to the decentralized P2P VPN network freely through ways they choose. This allows for increased security. The static verification of identity can lead to security breaches, potentially causing the leak of sensitive information. Bitnet verifies the “identity” of its users dynamically through the blockchain, where the ever-changing credentials to log in are securely stored.
All of this information is also completely anonymous. Connection to a VPN node through Bitnet is virtually invisible because this network is decentralized. Once connected, you can see what they see, while nobody else can see you. This VPN is, in ways, the “first civilian TOR.”
Bitnet also enacts a unique domain system with virtually infinite possible combinations. The domain names are as follows: http://(wallet-address) without the parentheses.
Any business or enterprise may set up their own website on Bitnet with the only cost being server utilities. There is no required domain registration fee. Since this is P2P, a business may trade even outside of its regional limitations. This is especially useful in a communist state like China, where censorship is such a problem. You can see what you deem fit, not what the government deems fit for you. The list of applicable uses for Bitnet goes on from P2P instant messaging and phone systems; there’s a plethora of useful feature to use.
Tor and I2P are two similar projects to Bitnet. However, Tor and I2P receive heavy government and private funding because of their applicable uses in privacy and security. The developers behind Bitnet hope to create the third multi-node, decentralized client of importance.
In this sense, Bitnet really is a civilian implementation of Tor. Unlike the previous two, Bitnet is Chinese. Tor and I2P are American in origin and not necessarily tailored to the needs of people who need decentralized anonymity in the world. Bitnet comes in as a personalized system that can be suited to the needs of the individual user.
VPNCoin is the driving force behind Bitnet. It’s the epicenter of the utilities included in the client because the client is first and foremost an alt-coin wallet. It goes deeper than that, though. A decentralized trade market is embedded in Bitnet. Its intrinsic currency is obviously going to be VPNCoin.
this is not the shitcoin dicussion threat.. |
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July 30, 2015, 03:49:22 PM |
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Man, I'd be delighted to get some cheap(er) coins at $250! But alas, the price stays consistently above $280.
PS: the FUD trolls are getting less ambitious by the day! That is, if they show up at all. Whatever happened to that guy that said there would be double-digit bitcoin on the way!? Oh, well.
Yeah that was hilarious. He's probably abandoned that account & signed up with an alt to save him the embarrassment of being quoted. I'm not 100% sure but I think we may have found a new bottom at 270 USD or somewhere close so I think your 250 USD hope may have gone. I still think anything below 300 USD is cheap when you consider the possibilities the future may bring |
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dreamspark
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July 30, 2015, 04:17:21 PM |
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We're going down. Target $260 imo.
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GaliX
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July 30, 2015, 04:18:55 PM |
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We're going down. Target $260 imo.
perma bulls don't care what you think! 2014 was just a big Bullflag! Bitcoin will always go up! kk? |
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inca
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July 30, 2015, 04:30:17 PM |
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We're going down. Target $260 imo.
perma bulls don't care what you think! 2014 was just a big Bullflag! Bitcoin will always go up! kk? Place your bets. Bulls still standing. Bears rekt' in last 8/52. |
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podyx
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July 30, 2015, 04:39:31 PM |
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So Etherum just got added on Kraken.com ?
Very interesting how the price is going to develop for ETH...
So much about the hype about Ethereum being a Bitcoin add on and not a competing currency. Color me shocked. Vitalik said Ethereum was not a competing currency to Bitcoin, but either panic dumped his IPO Bitcoins or deliberately sold them at times he knew would do the most possible damage to Bitcoin's price, like immediately after the Bitstamp hack. I hope he doesn't use his founder Ethereum stake to do more damage to Bitcoin's price. I remember that. Can you short Ether on Kraken?  |
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Hyperjack
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July 30, 2015, 05:08:13 PM |
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Gotta love the 2 month btc chart...next level up within a couple weeks $$$  |
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Calabi–Yau Manifold
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July 30, 2015, 05:08:24 PM |
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We're going down. Target $260 imo.
260? No, but 275-280$ - yes |
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inca
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July 30, 2015, 05:13:38 PM |
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We're going down. Target $260 imo.
260? No, but 275-280$ - yes Funny how the guys who sold are saying the price is dropping. Meanwhile the price is down a whole 2-3 dollars today and flat. Shorts up to 11,500. Excellent. A bit more fuel for the permabull party. |
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July 30, 2015, 05:15:52 PM |
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We're going down. Target $260 imo.
260? No, but 275-280$ - yes Funny how the guys who sold are saying the price is dropping. Meanwhile the price is down a whole 2-3 dollars today and flat. Shorts up to 11,500. Excellent. A bit more fuel for the permabull party. You are reading my mind  |
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