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Question: Dec. 16 Bitcoin Price:
<$10,000 - 24 (11%)
$10,000-$12,000 - 9 (4.1%)
$12,000-$14,000 - 10 (4.6%)
$14,000-$16,000 - 18 (8.2%)
$16,000-$18,000 - 33 (15.1%)
$18,000-$20,000 - 39 (17.8%)
$20,000-$22,000 - 29 (13.2%)
$24,000-$26,000 - 14 (6.4%)
$26,000-$28,000 - 3 (1.4%)
$28,000-$30,000 - 7 (3.2%)
>$30,000 - 33 (15.1%)
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June 19, 2017, 06:08:02 PM

Thinking about the unexpected space in the mem pool and trying to make more sense of it. While I suppose it's possible the miners could have spammed it for increased fees,  it's possible they were simply opportunists to some real traffic.  If that were the case, Such a sharp climb and drop in transactions may tell another story. Is it too far fetched or more probable to assume a very deep pocket may have hoarded 500,000 coins or even many more in the past months, driving up the price and filling the pools?  Forgive me if I'm just being captain obvious.  How many coins would an individual or state need to control in order to gain a monopoly over price movements?  
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June 19, 2017, 06:08:31 PM

More miner has starting to signal Segwit2x.


That's just the recent blocks.  The hashrate is steady, but we'll see the blocks go >60% to match the hashrate over the next few hours.

More miner has starting to signal Segwit2x.




This good? We ok with this?


(From long term non technical hodler)
It's very bullish if it actually happens.  It would also prevent a really messy UASF.
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June 19, 2017, 06:27:48 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
Kano CKPool
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GBMiners

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June 19, 2017, 06:29:31 PM

More miner has starting to signal Segwit2x.




Still more than 50% to go, yet
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June 19, 2017, 06:30:57 PM

More miner has starting to signal Segwit2x.


That's just the recent blocks.  The hashrate is steady, but we'll see the blocks go >60% to match the hashrate over the next few hours.

More miner has starting to signal Segwit2x.




This good? We ok with this?


(From long term non technical hodler)
It's very bullish if it actually happens.  It would also prevent a really messy UASF.

+1. Just bought myself back into BTC 85% Bitcoin, 15% Ethereum. May the force be with us  Grin
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June 19, 2017, 06:33:13 PM

The segwit2x signaling is just symbolic at this point. They're just signalling that they're going to signal for segwit.
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June 19, 2017, 06:37:18 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
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BTCC
GBMiners



You want I should "take care of them"?
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June 19, 2017, 06:39:44 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
Kano CKPool
Slush Pool
BTCC
GBMiners



You want I should "take care of them"?

See to it BlindMayorBitcoin.

I want them swimming with the fishes.
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June 19, 2017, 06:41:36 PM

The segwit2x signaling is just symbolic at this point. They're just signalling that they're going to signal for segwit.

I wonder if there'll be signalling fuckery a la Litecoin in an attempt to milk even more money. I suppose UASF is the thing lurking in the background to dampen that.
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June 19, 2017, 06:46:00 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
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Slush Pool
BTCC
GBMiners



You want I should "take care of them"?


So guys, why won't these signal for segwit2x? What's the reason for this? Are they outnumbered?

Just trying to understand all this. I get the bit no one wants a hard fork, we don't need messy.
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June 19, 2017, 06:47:35 PM

Today is a happy day. We are finally very close to a non-contentious solution for the scaling drama of this past years.

Let's see how everything evolves from this point on, but the prospects have never been this good before.
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June 19, 2017, 06:48:24 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
Kano CKPool
Slush Pool
BTCC
GBMiners



You want I should "take care of them"?


So guys, why won't these signal for segwit2x? What's the reason for this? Are they outnumbered?

Just trying to understand all this. I get the bit no one wants a hard fork, we don't need messy.

They probably will. They are just lagging in signaling their position. Did you closely observe how the Litecoin signaling evolved until the 100% miners signaling SW? It's perfectly normal.

Yesterday night, only Bitfury was signaling Segwit2x, now look... give em some time.
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June 19, 2017, 06:55:06 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
Kano CKPool
Slush Pool
BTCC
GBMiners



You want I should "take care of them"?


So guys, why won't these signal for segwit2x? What's the reason for this? Are they outnumbered?

Just trying to understand all this. I get the bit no one wants a hard fork, we don't need messy.

They probably will. They are just lagging in signaling their position. Did you closely observe how the Litecoin signaling evolved until the 100% miners signaling SW? It's perfectly normal.

Yesterday night, only Bitfury was signaling Segwit2x, now look... give em some time.
As you can see most of them are segwit supporters signaling bip 141.
They are only sleeping!

BitClub to add into sleepers
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June 19, 2017, 07:09:15 PM

Today is a happy day. We are finally very close to a non-contentious solution for the scaling drama of this past years.

Totally wrong.  Nothing has changed at all and it's still the same old parties having the same old positions.  A contentious Chinese/Jihan Wu fork (only with Barry Silbert added to the mix) vs the other Bitcoin core people:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCTgqEBXYAQBgNI.jpg:large

If you're trying to trade this, it's leaning far more towards a fork disaster than non-contentious fork.

*disclaimer:  I am neither attempting to long or short it myself.
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June 19, 2017, 07:11:52 PM


Pools not signaling for segwit2x:

Canoe
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Slush Pool
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You want I should "take care of them"?

See to it BlindMayorBitcoin.

I want them swimming with the fishes.

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June 19, 2017, 07:24:16 PM

Today is a happy day. We are finally very close to a non-contentious solution for the scaling drama of this past years.

Totally wrong.  Nothing has changed at all and it's still the same old parties having the same old positions.  A contentious Chinese/Jihan Wu fork (only with Barry Silbert added to the mix) vs the other Bitcoin core people:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCTgqEBXYAQBgNI.jpg:large

If you're trying to trade this, it's leaning far more towards a fork disaster than non-contentious fork.

Why keep on posting 5 days old tweet? and snapshots like it was posted  just now

Are you saying bitmain will fool us by signaling and then move into own little fork chain?

As i write this there is:
80% segwit2x support for last 40 blocks!

47.2% for 144 blocks

Bitmain will make no difference atall, they too small to make it anymore.
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June 19, 2017, 07:35:32 PM

Today is a happy day. We are finally very close to a non-contentious solution for the scaling drama of this past years.

Totally wrong.  Nothing has changed at all and it's still the same old parties having the same old positions.  A contentious Chinese/Jihan Wu fork (only with Barry Silbert added to the mix) vs the other Bitcoin core people:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCTgqEBXYAQBgNI.jpg:large

If you're trying to trade this, it's leaning far more towards a fork disaster than non-contentious fork.

*disclaimer:  I am neither attempting to long or short it myself.

Can you elaborate more on your point? I have already read that and many other twitter/reddit comments that have been posted for the past months.

Let's focus on current status:

- It looks like Segwit2x will pass, maybe even with almost 100% miner support.
- Segwit2x includes Segwit: Good.
- Segwit2x includes a 2MB block size increase soon after: Good. I hate HF's but an almost unanimous HF for a fixed reasonable 2x increase is also ok to me. More so if it is executed with almost 100% miner support.
- I see it as a reasonable compromise. Also, and most importantly, it is PERCEIVED as a reasonable compromise for most of the parties in this "battle".
- It avoids BU, which is an ABOMINATION.
- It avoids UASF, which could be a fucking disaster.

Well, I could go on... But... can you tell me whats the wrong thing about this move?

I don't see why it is "the same old parties having the same old positions". Why do you consider so?

Disclaimer: I am not exactly trying to trade this... But it will for sure influence my trades which, anyway, are almost all the time long for the majority of my trading funds. I only do actively trade a little portion around 25-30% to keep increasing my long term stash.
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June 19, 2017, 07:54:24 PM

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Disclaimer: he wants to invite you into his sex van to sell you shiny bits of metal that sit there and do nothing.
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June 19, 2017, 07:58:39 PM

Disclaimer:

Disclaimer: he wants to invite you into his sex van to sell you shiny bits of metal that sit there and do nothing.


Ha ha love this


Edit. This is false, they have gone down over the past 4 years I know that. So "nothing" isn't totally accurate.
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June 19, 2017, 08:12:53 PM

Disclaimer:

Disclaimer: he wants to invite you into his sex van to sell you shiny bits of metal that sit there and do nothing.

LOL

I am perfectly aware of his obsesion with PM's, but maybe this time he has a point about the scaling issue.

I don't see it, but if I am "totally wrong" I would be interested in knowing how I am misreading current situation.

Until then, I am totally bullish medium/long term on this.
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