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November 12, 2017, 04:02:27 AM

Adding here. Thanks.
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November 12, 2017, 04:03:47 AM

So how much is BCH going to get to?
0.35?

I'm sure if you wash trade a few BCH back and forth on a single exchange and control all the entrances/exits, you could get it up to $10K. Lol. Or just execute completely fake trades. That would work too.  Wink
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November 12, 2017, 04:05:40 AM


I do not understand how something dead can reach the second place in coinmarketcap...
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November 12, 2017, 04:06:36 AM

Lol #2

503313   0000000000000000081819ff158d06e56c00845298eca6fd398fa32c81e20e5e   2017-11-12 03:59   BTC.TOP   BIP9NYA   15   3,699.06090444   4,864,265.09   0.00297455   3.91   0.95   4.380
503312   0000000000000000061b67746c9e3513698bdded041d2241e587915f12927715   2017-11-12 03:59   ViaBTC   BIP9   57   1,681.15484215   2,210,718.50   0.00966104   12.70   0.47   27.567
503311   000000000000000003380a4d26f053b7f203d8619917ef1321db2006b440ef66   2017-11-12 03:59   BTC.TOP   BIP9SWNYA   1   12.50000000   16,437.50   0.00000000   0.00   0.00   0.255
503310   00000000000000000382daa2888a98c2e3078b0466b8eae0771346b1c54e8254   2017-11-12 03:59   AntPool   BIP9   1   12.50000000   16,437.50   0.00000000   0.00   0.00   

4 blocks per minute... "Vision of Satoshi" Tongue

i don't mind that a broken shit coin is pumping. what bothers me is what will i say to the children?
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November 12, 2017, 04:09:53 AM

Lol #2

503313   0000000000000000081819ff158d06e56c00845298eca6fd398fa32c81e20e5e   2017-11-12 03:59   BTC.TOP   BIP9NYA   15   3,699.06090444   4,864,265.09   0.00297455   3.91   0.95   4.380
503312   0000000000000000061b67746c9e3513698bdded041d2241e587915f12927715   2017-11-12 03:59   ViaBTC   BIP9   57   1,681.15484215   2,210,718.50   0.00966104   12.70   0.47   27.567
503311   000000000000000003380a4d26f053b7f203d8619917ef1321db2006b440ef66   2017-11-12 03:59   BTC.TOP   BIP9SWNYA   1   12.50000000   16,437.50   0.00000000   0.00   0.00   0.255
503310   00000000000000000382daa2888a98c2e3078b0466b8eae0771346b1c54e8254   2017-11-12 03:59   AntPool   BIP9   1   12.50000000   16,437.50   0.00000000   0.00   0.00   

4 blocks per minute... "Vision of Satoshi" Tongue

i don't mind that a broken shit coin is pumping. what bothers me is what will i say to the children?


That however hard you might try, and however deep your pockets are, you just can't go against the market  Undecided
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November 12, 2017, 04:10:56 AM

Lol #2

503313   0000000000000000081819ff158d06e56c00845298eca6fd398fa32c81e20e5e   2017-11-12 03:59   BTC.TOP   BIP9NYA   15   3,699.06090444   4,864,265.09   0.00297455   3.91   0.95   4.380
503312   0000000000000000061b67746c9e3513698bdded041d2241e587915f12927715   2017-11-12 03:59   ViaBTC   BIP9   57   1,681.15484215   2,210,718.50   0.00966104   12.70   0.47   27.567
503311   000000000000000003380a4d26f053b7f203d8619917ef1321db2006b440ef66   2017-11-12 03:59   BTC.TOP   BIP9SWNYA   1   12.50000000   16,437.50   0.00000000   0.00   0.00   0.255
503310   00000000000000000382daa2888a98c2e3078b0466b8eae0771346b1c54e8254   2017-11-12 03:59   AntPool   BIP9   1   12.50000000   16,437.50   0.00000000   0.00   0.00   

4 blocks per minute... "Vision of Satoshi" Tongue

i don't mind that a broken shit coin is pumping. what bothers me is what will i say to the children?


That however hard you might try, and however deep your pockets are, you just can't go against the market  Undecided

they'll never understand. ill just say big blockers killed santa
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November 12, 2017, 04:13:13 AM

Why settle for parity? Why not go for the same level ZEC was selling at soon after their launch?!  Fake Satoshi better leave the gym and pump this shit up to the next galaxy.

I want a hand job from BCH too.

Why settle for a crummy hand job? BCH will give you the whole schlabang.

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November 12, 2017, 04:14:54 AM

Woa Roger and Jihan are going all-in Bcash.. with that centralised manipulated zombie coin.

Who's buying those coins, blocks are almost empty  Shocked
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November 12, 2017, 04:18:22 AM

Why settle for parity? Why not go for the same level ZEC was selling at soon after their launch?!  Fake Satoshi better leave the gym and pump this shit up to the next galaxy.

I want a hand job from BCH too.

Why settle for a crummy hand job? BCH will give you the whole schlabang.



Yes. I would like it if that man smashed my back doors in.

Call me.
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November 12, 2017, 04:21:46 AM

Why settle for parity? Why not go for the same level ZEC was selling at soon after their launch?!  Fake Satoshi better leave the gym and pump this shit up to the next galaxy.

I want a hand job from BCH too.

Why settle for a crummy hand job? BCH will give you the whole schlabang.



Yes. I would like it if that man smashed my back doors in.

Call me.

You can message him on Twitter. I'm sure he'd love to service you.
https://twitter.com/proffaustus
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November 12, 2017, 04:25:08 AM

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November 12, 2017, 04:29:41 AM

If you drank the Blockstream/Core koolaid and dumped your BCH, you can buy them back at 4 BCH per BTC. 

Remember, if you're holding BTC and BCH in equal proportion, you'll come out fine whether Bitcoin Core or Bitcoin Cash wins in the end.


I DID bet, you are wrong. Time will solve it. Bitcoin is ANTI-fragile.

Big block + Difficulty Adjustment Algorithm will destabilize CRash in the long term. It will die.
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November 12, 2017, 04:35:18 AM
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At least BTC+BCH total is going up again and near all time high.  So if both sides of bitcoiners join hand and sing kumbaya, i.e. BTC hold the line and BCH doing the pump, all future Top 10 Crypto Marketcap will be Bitcoin something by next year.   Tongue

We have proven to the world in August that one can "add value" to the system by being a bunch of merkleforkers.  Now we can add value even when engaging in the 1st real crypto war.  It's Win-Win for all.  Everyone forced into being Bitcoin Maximalist by default because there would be no non-Bitcoin ALT to choose from.  Tongue

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November 12, 2017, 04:36:15 AM

I'm just much bullishier on Bitcoin Cash.

Why ?

I ask with no snark or ill-intention.

Because it is purely and simply Bitcoin. In the form that I believe Satoshi intended. After all, it is Bitcoin largely as he left it, but with the insane centrally-planned production quota on transaction capacity relieved. Being of course a thing that he put in as an acquiescence and in order to stave off a potential problem that no longer exists. And also a thing that was orders of magnitude away from being hit at the time he left. Also for which he explained away a fine removal mechanism. Further, it doesn't suffer from the SegWit atrocity, nor the RBF abomination.

Most germane, it supports the store of value function, and also fulfills the medium of exchange function that Core threw overboard in their insane Raspberry Pi fetish. It simply renders Bitcoin SegWit irrelevant.

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Everything I've witnessed thus far with BCH, is nothing but power-plays by selfish (State) Actors.

Well, I've been looking closely, and I just don't see it that way. I understand that the above is the narrative 'round these parts, but it looks completely false to me.

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It's against everything Satoshi stood for.

In what ways, exactly?



And yes, gentlemand calls it well.



BCH is capable of every use case that Bitcoin Segwit is capable of. Plus many more.

Truth be told, I'm bullish on Bitcoin Segwit too. I'm just much bullishier on Bitcoin Cash.
bullish? how. BCH will be forked into infinity, and because the user base and the real support is much smaller, it will slowly dissipate -there is no history of BCH, even though it copied bitcoins' years old blockchain.

Bitcoin Cash _is_ Bitcoin. It's history extends unbroken back the the genesis block. It diverged from Core's crazy direction in time to be spared from the largest single change ever made to the protocol.

The market movement would suggest that there is plenty of real support.

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I will rather go down with the bitcoin ship than into bitcash

Seems foolish, but hey - it's your money.
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November 12, 2017, 04:38:47 AM

Welcome to the game. No one lives and displeases gold

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November 12, 2017, 04:39:14 AM

BTC has finally died.
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November 12, 2017, 04:40:13 AM

BCH should just change its blocktime to 1 minute, hell, maybe even less.
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November 12, 2017, 04:40:45 AM

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You should be mortified. I'm gay and the amount of beers that it would require to make that look good exceeds the amount required to make me pass out cold.  Cheesy
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November 12, 2017, 04:41:57 AM

Craig Wright is a funny guy.
His twitter account looks like a huge billboard for the likes of John Mcafee and Bill Gates to be posting on there.
Sheesh.
He was saying he is Satoshi Nakamoto last year?
Maybe they believe he is with whats going on here right here right now with bitcoin.
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November 12, 2017, 04:42:55 AM

I'm just much bullishier on Bitcoin Cash.

Why ?

I ask with no snark or ill-intention.

Because it is purely and simply Bitcoin. In the form that I believe Satoshi intended. After all, it is Bitcoin largely as he left it, but with the insane centrally-planned production quota on transaction capacity relieved. Being of course a thing that he put in as an acquiescence and in order to stave off a potential problem that no longer exists. And also a thing that was orders of magnitude away from being hit at the time he left. Also for which he explained away a fine removal mechanism. Further, it doesn't suffer from the SegWit atrocity, nor the RBF abomination.

Most germane, it supports the store of value function, and also fulfills the medium of exchange function that Core threw overboard in their insane Raspberry Pi fetish. It simply renders Bitcoin SegWit irrelevant.

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Everything I've witnessed thus far with BCH, is nothing but power-plays by selfish (State) Actors.

Well, I've been looking closely, and I just don't see it that way. I understand that the above is the narrative 'round these parts, but it looks completely false to me.

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It's against everything Satoshi stood for.

In what ways, exactly?



And yes, gentlemand calls it well.



BCH is capable of every use case that Bitcoin Segwit is capable of. Plus many more.

Truth be told, I'm bullish on Bitcoin Segwit too. I'm just much bullishier on Bitcoin Cash.
bullish? how. BCH will be forked into infinity, and because the user base and the real support is much smaller, it will slowly dissipate -there is no history of BCH, even though it copied bitcoins' years old blockchain.

Bitcoin Cash _is_ Bitcoin. It's history extends unbroken back the the genesis block. It diverged from Core's crazy direction in time to be spared from the largest single change ever made to the protocol.

The market movement would suggest that there is plenty of real support.

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I will rather go down with the bitcoin ship than into bitcash

Seems foolish, but hey - it's your money.

Satoshi definitely did not intend for anyone to run a centralized attack on his vision of a decentralized financial system. Bitcoin Cash is obviously the direct opposite of his vision, which sought to remove power from centralized institutions that abuse their power. Bitcoin Cash stands for corruption, manipulation and deception.

If you believe otherwise you're either confused, out for profits, or a paid shill.

There's nothing positive about deliberately flooding the Core blockchain to slow it down and increase its fees while simultaneously manipulating the Bitcoin Cash price to trigger FOMO buying from greedy traders that don't even know what the fuck they are trading.
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