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[alexeft]

I think this will the dumpers last gasp. BTC now 3.1X more profitable to mine than BCH.

https://fork.lol/

Funnily enough, it looks like not even Jihad is mining his "coin". Out of BTC I guess! 

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[Ibian]

Come, Ibian, terms like "social justice warrior" are emotionally loaded.  You may as well have said "libtard".  Really, it is beneath you.

Libtard is an actual slur. But the fact is that there are a type of people who refer to themselves as social justice warriors (and a lot of people who don't but think and act exactly like them). You know this, right? It's an actual description, not an ad hom. Well, any more than calling a(n actual) nazi a nazi is. Do you object to the allies referring to nazis as nazis during the war as well?

[El duderino_]

Time for the next ATH contest. My date is 15 Dec 2017. 

Haha with This dip i was allready thinking of making a new one..... to guess ATH or maybe When to reach 10k

[ImI]

Can't wait until BTC pulls back up from this dip so, this thread can go back to Carolina memes and train videos...

That's another very important human flaw. During war all people can think of is peace. But during peace nobody thinks about war. We should, because peace is always temporary, and the better we prepare for war the better chance of surviving.

That's some real Niccolò Machiavelli stuff right there...

Do you have a counterargument to it? I would like to hear it if so. Being wrong is the highlight of my day, because it's a chance to learn something new. Especially when I turn out to be wrong about a conclusion I don't like, such as in this case. So, if you have something to share?

During war people think about peace because they are looking forward to a better life. Why should they look forward to war in times of peace? Makes no sense.

Also you are part of the problem if you are following this "We have to prepare for war"-stuff, as all preparations for war cause actions that inherently make wars more likely.

[becoin]

Cheap coins. I'll take them. Thanks.

[Torque]

Self-preservation is an innate right of any human born on this planet. And preparing for a day when someone might try to attack and eliminate you is also an innate right of self-preservation. It's not begging for war, it's preparing for self-defense.

Anyone who doesn't understand this, really needs to sit down and do some more introspection.

As Satoshi would say, "If you don't get it, then I don't have time to explain it to you."

[ImI]

We can't let them win even once, because that's all it takes. They don't care about logic or morals or any of that stuff. The only way to dislodge them after they take over is through physical violence.

Am i interpreting this correctly that in case that BCH becomes the dominating chain you are here publicly advocating physical violence against BCH-proponents?

[ImI]

Self-preservation is an innate right of any human born on this planet. And preparing for a day when someone might try to attack and eliminate you is also an innate right of self-preservation. It's not begging for war, it's preparing for self-defense.

No one said you don't have the right for preparing for war or self-defense or whatever. You are just making such an incident more likely, that's all.

[Ibian]

Can't wait until BTC pulls back up from this dip so, this thread can go back to Carolina memes and train videos...

That's another very important human flaw. During war all people can think of is peace. But during peace nobody thinks about war. We should, because peace is always temporary, and the better we prepare for war the better chance of surviving.

That's some real Niccolò Machiavelli stuff right there...

Do you have a counterargument to it? I would like to hear it if so. Being wrong is the highlight of my day, because it's a chance to learn something new. Especially when I turn out to be wrong about a conclusion I don't like, such as in this case. So, if you have something to share?

During war people think about peace because they are looking forward to a better life. Why should they look forward to war in times of peace? Makes no sense.

Also you are part of the problem if you are following this "We have to prepare for war"-stuff, as all preparations for war cause actions that inherently make wars more likely.

To survive. Peace is temporary, as already mentioned. And it used to be a lot more frequent than it is now, in our part of the world.

War is coming whether we want it or not, whether we prepare or not. Only question is what we do with ourselves until then.

Incidentally, the ultimate goal of martial art is not having to use it. Musashi said so, I reached the same conclusion before I heard about him, and even Sun Tzu thought that winning a war without fighting was the better way to go.

We have an unprecedented choice. We have more knowledge of history and psychology than at any other point. We know what practical steps we can take to make the future better than the past. The only question is if we will actually do it.

[True Myth]

Can't wait until BTC pulls back up from this dip so, this thread can go back to Carolina memes and train videos...

That's another very important human flaw. During war all people can think of is peace. But during peace nobody thinks about war. We should, because peace is always temporary, and the better we prepare for war the better chance of surviving.

That's some real Niccolò Machiavelli stuff right there...

Do you have a counterargument to it? I would like to hear it if so. Being wrong is the highlight of my day, because it's a chance to learn something new. Especially when I turn out to be wrong about a conclusion I don't like, such as in this case. So, if you have something to share?

I have no argument to pursue with you. I tried to bring a light hearted joke to this otherwise increasingly tense thread. Your follow up comment is literally a quote from Machiavelli which I pointed out.

I would agree with the underlying theme of your message which I interpret as not being too comfortable with your surroundings and be prepared for change. I would add that people should also strive to be adaptable on all levels of thier life. A person can not be prepared for everything but, an adaptable person will survive.

[rafanadal]

When will the bleeding stop ?

[gentlemand]

Am i interpreting this correctly that in case that BCH becomes the dominating chain you are here publicly advocating physical violence against BCH-proponents?

I have laced the planetary crust with anti matter warheads. The promotional film will be released at the appropriate moment should it look like flippage is on the horizon. I even recruited Morgan Freeman to narrate my threats.

[Ibian]

We can't let them win even once, because that's all it takes. They don't care about logic or morals or any of that stuff. The only way to dislodge them after they take over is through physical violence.

Am i interpreting this correctly that in case that BCH becomes the dominating chain you are here publicly advocating physical violence against BCH-proponents?

I'm saying that the coming global financial collapse will be worse without a version of bitcoin true to Satoshis spirit than with it. Our actions here could literally save lives, maybe a lot of them. But it requires action, and the willingness to accept reality as it is in order to take said action.

[Torque]

Self-preservation is an innate right of any human born on this planet. And preparing for a day when someone might try to attack and eliminate you is also an innate right of self-preservation. It's not begging for war, it's preparing for self-defense.

No one said you don't have the right for preparing for war or self-defense or whatever. You are just making such an incident more likely, that's all.

The Buddhist Shaolin monks of China would disagree with you.

[ImI]

Self-preservation is an innate right of any human born on this planet. And preparing for a day when someone might try to attack and eliminate you is also an innate right of self-preservation. It's not begging for war, it's preparing for self-defense.

No one said you don't have the right for preparing for war or self-defense or whatever. You are just making such an incident more likely, that's all.

The Buddhist Shaolin monks of China would disagree with you.

Interesting, i guess i will have to discuss with them one time.

[Ibian]

Can't wait until BTC pulls back up from this dip so, this thread can go back to Carolina memes and train videos...

That's another very important human flaw. During war all people can think of is peace. But during peace nobody thinks about war. We should, because peace is always temporary, and the better we prepare for war the better chance of surviving.

That's some real Niccolò Machiavelli stuff right there...

Do you have a counterargument to it? I would like to hear it if so. Being wrong is the highlight of my day, because it's a chance to learn something new. Especially when I turn out to be wrong about a conclusion I don't like, such as in this case. So, if you have something to share?

I have no argument to pursue with you. I tried to bring a light hearted joke to this otherwise increasingly tense thread. Your follow up comment is literally a quote from Machiavelli which I pointed out.

I would agree with the underlying theme of your message which I interpret as not being too comfortable with your surroundings and be prepared for change. I would add that people should also strive to be adaptable on all levels of thier life. A person can not be prepared for everything but, an adaptable person will survive.

They are my own words, so all I can say to that is that Machi must have been one smart cookie. Anyway, it is what it is.

[ImI]

We can't let them win even once, because that's all it takes. They don't care about logic or morals or any of that stuff. The only way to dislodge them after they take over is through physical violence.

Am i interpreting this correctly that in case that BCH becomes the dominating chain you are here publicly advocating physical violence against BCH-proponents?

I'm saying that the coming global financial collapse will be worse without a version of bitcoin true to Satoshis spirit than with it. Our actions here could literally save lives, maybe a lot of them. But it requires action, and the willingness to accept reality as it is in order to take said action.

Ok, i see a point to that.

Obv it's still to be determined what IS the true vision of Satoshi and which version of Bitcoin follows this vision more closely, but that's another topic.

[lightfoot]

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.

[alexeft]

Well after a day of whacking off here on the computer (wait, whacking away) I finally have all my crapcoin-classic coins moved from old wallets. What a trip down "get this old POS to work again" memory lane.

Now funny that but the transactions on Cash chain are running slow as shit. Gee I thought this was so the coin of the future with big big blocks or somesuch crap. Can't even spend it...

Reminds me of catcoin.

As I wrote before, it now seems that not even its creators are mining it!!!! 

[Last of the V8s]