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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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November 27, 2017, 06:26:39 AM
Last edit: November 27, 2017, 08:19:35 AM by jbreher

Most of these seasteader types are:

1. Lone wolves
2. Anti-social
3. Stubborn
4. Eccentric
5. Nerdy
6. Drug and alcohol users/abusers
7. Entitled
8. Self righteous
9. Egotistical
10. Male

I was prepared for this getting into seasteading but working with the large group of people that are working on this I have found this to not be the case. If anything it's leaning a bit too much in the environmentalist arena for my tastes. But I understand the need for leaning on the environmentalist side with ocean projects. I have discovered there is a certain environmentalist mafia that exists that you do not go up against.

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November 27, 2017, 06:27:52 AM

I guess it's stuck and just has to keep rising supra exponentially forever. Ill see you next spring at $100K
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November 27, 2017, 06:29:45 AM

I guess it's stuck and just has to keep rising supra exponentially forever. Ill see you next spring at $100K

Bear gone to hibernate.  Sweet dreams.
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November 27, 2017, 06:40:50 AM

Bear gone to hibernate.  Sweet dreams.

Winter is coming.
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November 27, 2017, 07:15:10 AM

Price is looking awesome - wonder if the average will hit 10k by the end of the day...
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November 27, 2017, 07:27:11 AM

I wonder how many bitcoin hodlers will have an extra fun time while going to work today/tomorrow. this is nothing short of historic, and every hodler will walk with pride because every hodler was damn right all along.

so the hodlers will be very confident and on the the other hand very distracted with that strong urge to check the charts.

bosses will not like that. especially the non-hodling bosses (=majority)

imagining the following scenarios:

boss sees you checking the charts, and once and for all has enough of this shit, yells at you and wants to fire you. now, before you react, check your stash:

<100 btc: smile, say you are sorry and try to keep the job for another year or so. at most.
100-1000 btc: tell your boss that you wanted to quit anyway, shake hands, farewell & goodbye.
>1000 btc: tell your boss you will buy the fucking company and take his seat.


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November 27, 2017, 07:55:12 AM

Holy shit guys, I go away for a weekend break and we're above $9500  Shocked Cool

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November 27, 2017, 07:56:27 AM

I wonder how many bitcoin hodlers will have an extra fun time while going to work today/tomorrow. this is nothing short of historic, and every hodler will walk with pride because every hodler was damn right all along.

so the hodlers will be very confident and on the the other hand very distracted with that strong urge to check the charts.

bosses will not like that. especially the non-hodling bosses (=majority)

imagining the following scenarios:

boss sees you checking the charts, and once and for all has enough of this shit, yells at you and wants to fire you. now, before you react, check your stash:

<100 btc: smile, say you are sorry and try to keep the job for another year or so. at most.
100-1000 btc: tell your boss that you wanted to quit anyway, shake hands, farewell & goodbye.
>1000 btc: tell your boss you will buy the fucking company and take his seat.

I just decided i am not going to work tomorrow.
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November 27, 2017, 07:58:04 AM

If you're still holding BTG congrats combined value of BTC+BTG is over $10k
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November 27, 2017, 07:59:51 AM

Looking at Coinmarket cap.  Almost every single coin is green in USD terms. So much honey. 
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November 27, 2017, 08:03:55 AM

Gdax ATH 9741.  Is new fiat starting to hit US exchanges?  3 am in New York. 
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November 27, 2017, 08:08:36 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770
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November 27, 2017, 08:10:56 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

CoinMarketCap is a global blend.  It picks up all sorts of weird prices. I wouldn’t trust it.  Click on the price to see the mix.
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November 27, 2017, 08:17:30 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

Isn't Coinmarketcap is hour/s behind on its price updates? I also noticed it too when I was tracking the previous days Bitcoin Cash heavy rally. I shifted to blockfolio because it is better and I can set alarms.   
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November 27, 2017, 08:23:07 AM

Just so you guys know, there's Black Friday 21% discount on Ledger Nano S until 27 november.

Hmm. I've been thinking about equipping the progeny. They're currently on paper wallets. But would that be additional incentive for them to not hodl?



And I repeat my query: What's the vision?

Just a few people living on houseboats. Nothing to concern yourself with.
That's a shame. If there was a worthwhile vision you would not have anything against sharing it. On the contrary. Oh well.

On the eve of Elwar's starting of probably the most significant chapter of his life's journey, you're going to call him to task for not engaging with a hornet's nest of internet trolls that only want to show how this work is sheer folly? Why the hell would he expend the mental bandwidth?



not saying it cant be done. saying an off-shore gated community for the transnational rich isn't interesting
its obscene

As opposed to, say, an on-shore gated community for the transnational rich? Either one is interesting at least to the transnational rich. As if that's all that's going on here.
Though this is also an experiment in new forms of governance. Something from which the world could probably benefit greatly.
BTW, your green gene is showing.



If you are on an iPhone using Safari it’s 10x more secure than a windows PC.  Androids are a joke though.

I suppose you're an apple fan and an expert in vulns bro, could you tell us more about these spreadsheets and what it means?

https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/49/Apple.html
https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/1224/Google.html

I've not been to this website before, and am not interested in spending the time to dig in to the results. That said, rather than comparing Apple to Google, should you not be comparing iOS to android?

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/34425/Apple-IOS.html?vendor_id=49
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224
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November 27, 2017, 08:44:04 AM

If you're still holding BTG congrats combined value of BTC+BTG is over $10k

Wow!
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If you are on an iPhone using Safari it’s 10x more secure than a windows PC.  Androids are a joke though.

I suppose you're an apple fan and an expert in vulns bro, could you tell us more about these spreadsheets and what it means?

https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/49/Apple.html
https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/1224/Google.html

I've not been to this website before, and am not interested in spending the time to dig in to the results. That said, rather than comparing Apple to Google, should you not be comparing iOS to android?

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/34425/Apple-IOS.html?vendor_id=49
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224

I understand the logic behind your choice but I like to see the bigger picture, he mentioned iphone and safari combined ...which are apple products

also this is the correct link to ios vulns https://www.cvedetails.com/product/15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html?vendor_id=49
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November 27, 2017, 08:45:23 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

Bitstamp is an individual exchange. It is sometimes referred to as Bearstamp because its prices are often lower than other exchanges. The prices at different exchanges vary greatly due to location, features and other considerations.

Coinmarketcap is a price indexing service like Bitcoinaverage, Preev, or the Coindesk BPI. These indexing services use averages from multiple exchanges, weighted by volumes.

I only use  Coinmarketcap for altcoins because I find that Bitcoinaverage gives a truer indication of global prices, as it averages more exchanges and excludes volumes from zero-fee exchanges. Bitcoinaverage is also the base price used by the majority of BTC ATMs here in Toronto, so to me it's most representative of real-world prices.
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November 27, 2017, 08:49:00 AM

That's  a pretty steep wall up to 10k on stamp. I'm betting it'll get munched or pulled.
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November 27, 2017, 08:49:32 AM

Ok I have been out for a run and feel better now.  It is now acceptable for the price to continue to rise in a slow and orderly fashion.


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