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[vokain]

Most of us are simply sleepwalking through life fighting our own demons again and again, creating the chains that bind us and then blaming someone else for their existence ...

fuuuuuck that We have will!

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[oda.krell]

What exactly happened to good old fashioned fucking tolerance, huh?

I personally believe (a) astrology is pretty much bullshit, or at least: completely uninteresting for me as a guiding algorithm to go through life, but I also (b) don't get my knickers in a twist when it turns out someone believes it has some merits.

"... should be put on an island"... sheesh. You'd fit right into r/atheism. And that's obviously no compliment.

I have zero respect for people who believe in fairy tales and even worse take their beliefs on forums such as this one.

Oh well, then it's okay of course. I mean, isn't that the textbook definition of tolerance -- "not getting worked up about all kind of shit, except of course the stuff you really disagree with."

[phoenix1]

Most of us are simply sleepwalking through life fighting our own demons again and again, creating the chains that bind us and then blaming someone else for their existence ...

fuuuuuck that We have will!

Nice ! Like !  
But I really have to sleep a bit now - I will try to be awake in the morning  

[phorensic]

Coincidence.

haha
but what have you been reading about?

Discovered some subreddits that are really interesting.  Doing some lurking on the shroomery.org and erowid.  Watching youtube videos of post-trip reports, etc.  The usual thing I do every 6-12 months when psychedelics pique my interest again.

I'm on a big psilocybin and DMT research binge again right now.  Funny how it came up in this thread at the same time.

Ahhh, then have some fun and listen to Terrence McKenna. A bard with words and was quite knowledgable but also a GREAT storyteller.
The psychedelic salon podcast has lots of his talks there.

Terrence McKenna is the shit.  I've been watching his videos for years.  I also enjoy watching Joe Rogan talk about psychedelics and his ayahuasca trips and sensory depravation chamber, etc.

I'm on a big psilocybin and DMT research binge again right now.  Funny how it came up in this thread at the same time.

Nice. Any bitcoin-related insights? I tried watching bitlisten.com on cubensis, but didn't feel any connectness or anything so left that pretty quickly.

I've actually never done real psychedelics, only shitty legal ones a few times.  That might change in the near or not so near future, I don't know.  It just really interests me every once in a while, especially now that I have quit my physically and mentally killing IT career and gone back to school.

[oda.krell]

In less important, less metaphysical news:

Hellooooo, 100!

[Hailo]

In less important, less metaphysical news:

Hellooooo, 100!

99.99!

[vokain]

In less important, less metaphysical news:

Hellooooo, 100!

99.99!

fallling!!!!

99.95

edit: 99.90 

[phorensic]

Boom, just broke 100.  I would like all the bears in this thread that have been screaming for weeks that we will never break 100 again in 2013 to EXPLAIN THIS.  Including the person with the fancy dancy title, you know who you are.

[humanitee]

[JimboToronto]

Finally.

[ShroomsKit]

100.

Everything going according to plan, Rampion? Blitz?

[oda.krell]

To be fair, I don't think Rampion ever made a silly prediction like "never again 100/no 100 in 2013".
Blitz, on the other hand...

[vokain]

Boom, just broke 100.  I would like all the bears in this thread that have been screaming for weeks that we will never break 100 again in 2013 to EXPLAIN THIS.  Including the person with the fancy dancy title, you know who you are.

To Blitz defense, he's been a bear since at least 130s. We can't say say he's entirely wrong yet until we get back there   hurry bitcoin hurry, our egos need feeding!! "no more triple digits" is out, now let's destroy the entire bear argument!

[4mherewego]

I'm on a big psilocybin and DMT research binge again right now.  Funny how it came up in this thread at the same time.

Nice. Any bitcoin-related insights? I tried watching bitlisten.com on cubensis, but didn't feel any connectness or anything so left that pretty quickly.

I've actually never done real psychedelics, only shitty legal ones a few times.  That might change in the near or not so near future, I don't know.  It just really interests me every once in a while, especially now that I have quit my physically and mentally killing IT career and gone back to school.

You should really try it. It is amazing. Start slow, like 1-2g PC and do it like the old medical experiments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#Mystical_experiences

A group of researchers from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine led by Griffiths conducted a study to assess the immediate and long-term psychological effects of the psilocybin experience, using a modified version of the mystical experience questionnaire and a rigorous double-blind procedure.[141] When asked in an interview about the similarity of his work with Leary's, Griffiths explained the difference: "We are conducting rigorous, systematic research with psilocybin under carefully monitored conditions, a route which Dr. Leary abandoned in the early 1960s."[142] The National Institute of Drug Abuse-funded study, published in 2006, has been praised by experts for the soundness of its experimental design.[nb 6] In the experiment, 36 volunteers without prior experience with hallucinogens were given psilocybin and methylphenidate (Ritalin) in separate sessions; the methylphenidate sessions served as a control and psychoactive placebo. The degree of mystical experience was measured using a questionnaire developed by Ralph W. Hood;[143] 61% of subjects reported a "complete mystical experience" after their psilocybin session, while only 13% reported such an outcome after their experience with methylphenidate. Two months after taking psilocybin, 79% of the participants reported moderately to greatly increased life satisfaction and sense of well-being. About 36% of participants also had a strong to extreme "experience of fear" or dysphoria (i.e., a "bad trip") at some point during the psilocybin session (which was not reported by any subject during the methylphenidate session); about one-third of these (13% of the total) reported that this dysphoria dominated the entire session. These negative effects were reported to be easily managed by the researchers and did not have a lasting negative effect on the subject's sense of well-being.[144]

A follow-up study conducted 14 months after the original psilocybin session confirmed that participants continued to attribute deep personal meaning to the experience. Almost one-third of the subjects reported that the experience was the single most meaningful or spiritually significant event of their lives, and over two-thirds reported it among their five most spiritually significant events. About two-thirds indicated that the experience increased their sense of well-being or life satisfaction.[136] Similarly, in a recent (2010) web-based questionnaire study designed to investigate user perceptions of the benefits and harms of hallucinogenic drug use, 60% of the 503 psilocybin users reported that their use of psilocybin had a long-term positive impact on their sense of well-being.[45][124]

In 2011, Griffiths and colleagues published the results of further studies designed to learn more about the optimum psilocybin doses needed for positive life-changing experiences, while minimizing the chance of negative reactions. In a 14-month followup, the researchers found that 94% of the volunteers rated their experiences with the drug as one of the top five most spiritually significant of their lives (44% said it was the single most significant). None of the 90 sessions that took place throughout the study were rated as decreasing well-being or life satisfaction. Moreover, 89% reported positive changes in their behaviors as a result of the experiences. The conditions of the experimental design included a single drug experience a month, on a couch, in a living-room-like setting, with eye shades and carefully chosen music (classical and world music). As an additional precaution to guide the experience, as with the 2006 study, the 2011 study included a "monitor" or "guide" whom the volunteers supposedly trusted. The monitors provided gentle reassurance when the volunteers experienced anxiety. The volunteers and monitors all remained blind to the exact dosages for the sake of the experiment.[145]

[notme]

by the way, so I was at Bonnaroo in June, the music & arts festival, just trying to have a good time while hopefully learning a bit more about myself. there was this Hare Krishna disciple that came by our tent and wanted to share his insights. How in tune he is with the natural rhythms.. you could just feel it from him, it was really weird! Any way, he simply piqued my interest with his spirit, enough to warrant further sincere investigation. He then gave me four books written by A.C. Bhaktivedanta (for free! but I gave him $23 so I could help him keep going) and I've since then have stumbled down this path this summer. Right now I'm reading The Science of Self-Realization, and it is quite humbling to see that this sort of insight can result in such harmony with how medicine and science has explained things. The book is just a series of different, yet very explanatory interviews with A.C. Bhaktivedanta. Worth reading a couple of interviews at least, it's free here:
http://prabhupadabooks.com/ssr


"The Personality of Godhead may not be present before one's eyes, but if one is sincere in wanting such guidance the Lord will send a bona fide person who can guide one properly back home, back to Godhead."

+1 for Bonnaroo
+1 for the Vedic Teachings
+1 for the story of Krishna

All that said, I grew up in the same county as Prabhupada's Temple of Gold in West Virginia.  I could say a lot, but I will leave it at this: While Prabhupada has done a fantastic job inspiring thousands, I always take his translations and interpretations with a large dose of salt because I know what kind of malice took place under his watch.  If you want more details, check out this book: http://www.amazon.com/Monkey-Stick-Onyx-Hubner/dp/0451401875

P.S.  For the no nonsense "heart" of Vedic teaching, find a good translation of the Yoga Sutras.

[vokain]

by the way, so I was at Bonnaroo in June, the music & arts festival, just trying to have a good time while hopefully learning a bit more about myself. there was this Hare Krishna disciple that came by our tent and wanted to share his insights. How in tune he is with the natural rhythms.. you could just feel it from him, it was really weird! Any way, he simply piqued my interest with his spirit, enough to warrant further sincere investigation. He then gave me four books written by A.C. Bhaktivedanta (for free! but I gave him $23 so I could help him keep going) and I've since then have stumbled down this path this summer. Right now I'm reading The Science of Self-Realization, and it is quite humbling to see that this sort of insight can result in such harmony with how medicine and science has explained things. The book is just a series of different, yet very explanatory interviews with A.C. Bhaktivedanta. Worth reading a couple of interviews at least, it's free here:
http://prabhupadabooks.com/ssr


"The Personality of Godhead may not be present before one's eyes, but if one is sincere in wanting such guidance the Lord will send a bona fide person who can guide one properly back home, back to Godhead."

+1 for Bonnaroo
+1 for the Vedic Teachings
+1 for the story of Krishna

All that said, I grew up in the same county as Prabhupada's Temple of Gold in West Virginia.  I could say a lot, but I will leave it at this: While Prabhupada has done a fantastic job inspiring thousands, I always take his translations and interpretations with a large dose of salt because I know what kind of malice took place under his watch.  If you want more details, check out this book: http://www.amazon.com/Monkey-Stick-Onyx-Hubner/dp/0451401875

yeah, apparently one of my pledge brothers' moms had a friend whose kid was taken by Krishnas..... scary! but thanks for sharing this friend. I love the krishna philosophy and try to imbibe as much as possible, but....I can't take it on fully. maybe i can, but I'm afraid to haha

[ShroomsKit]

To be fair, I don't think Rampion ever made a silly prediction like "never again 100/no 100 in 2013".
Blitz, on the other hand...

He is equally delusional. He made some extreme predictions which absolutely didn't happen
and while Bitcoin did the total opposite he wrote shit here like how everything is going according to plan haha. Brain damage, i tell you.

And Blitz is better off leaving this place. I don't think i've seen anymore looking more stupid in this whole thread than him. The moderator out of all people.
But obviously he has no shame and will continue like this didn't happen 3 times in a row.

[micalith]

psilocybin must-read

http://www.pnas.org/content/109/6/2138.full



This 'BTC does what it wants' is killing me. Have the bears been hoodwinked? Tempted to just buy and come back this time next year...

[JimboToronto]

To be fair, I don't think Rampion ever made a silly prediction like "never again 100/no 100 in 2013".
Blitz, on the other hand...

To be fair to Blitz, he did qualify his "no triple digits" prediction by saying he meant a sustained price over 100.

It's already dipped back under.

[Wary]

no moderators around to split this thread?

Why bother? If TA and astrology is about the same