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[conspirosphere.tk]

All of these people saying "you must use only bitcoin and everything else is a scam" is nonsense because it's INHERENTLY a pro-usury stance where you're claiming the entire world must agree to be exploited for the highest fees possible without them doing the obvious free market choice of just using something else.  I thought bitcoin was supposed to be anti-usury banker?  wtf?  It's like people already know bitcoin dies without scaling to a huge amount so they're trying to strong arm people into propping up their investment LOL.

Would you plz go check on the dictionary what usury means?
Then maybe you could stop talking nonsense.

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[realr0ach]

JESUS CHRIST

The politics of Stza (leftover crack) are so bad it's absurd.  It's like a white guy that accidentally got drunk and stumbled into a marxist cult run by Jews and black panthers.  I guess that would describe EVERYONE who lives in NYC, though.

LOC is very Anti-US Empire therefor if you completely disagree with that sentiment then you are PRO-US Empire.

If thats the case there is absolutely no point in conversing with you

SORRY

EDIT : I will give credit that you even know who Leftover Crack are

Stza was basically an ANTIFA cultural marxist before ANTIFA even existed.  Forced association has no basis in reality.  It just causes confrontation and destruction.

Diversity doesn't = strength

Diversity = weakness

[realr0ach]

All of these people saying "you must use only bitcoin and everything else is a scam" is nonsense because it's INHERENTLY a pro-usury stance where you're claiming the entire world must agree to be exploited for the highest fees possible without them doing the obvious free market choice of just using something else.  I thought bitcoin was supposed to be anti-usury banker?  wtf?  It's like people already know bitcoin dies without scaling to a huge amount so they're trying to strong arm people into propping up their investment LOL.

Would you plz go check on the dictionary what usury means?
Then maybe you could stop talking nonsense.

The definition was changed by the money changers.  It used to mean in Luke Jr bible days just the charging of interest, then they changed it to "unreasonable interest" LOL.  Kind of like saying "rape" vs "unreasonable rape". Usury is a form of slavery and it doesn't matter what the yield you're pulling is.

And don't try to claim bitcoin isn't built on usury.  It has built-in, usurious middlemen that demand a cut of every transaction.  The only way to remove the usury factor is for everyone to process their own transactions with unprofitable PoW - email PoW style.  IOTA was the only real try at something like that, but as I've stated already, it's not possible to form consensus in a DAG without artificial convergence, so it's a failure.  

It's not actually possible to create a decentralized digital currency.  You are all wasting your time.  It is only possible to build usury schemes that centralize transaction validators through economy of scale, and those then turn into federated chains/permissioned ledgers by default.  

[sirazimuth]

OK guys, I know a lot of you are buying the marijuana with these bitcoin things, but think again:

http://dailystormer.red/psa-for-teenagers-regarding-the-green-menace-and-your-future/

Daily Stormer huh? Why am I not surprised?
thanx for the laugh, guvnor.
Still waiting on your WTC Jewish conspiracy theory nonsense tho....
that will be comedy gold

[fabiorem]

The definition was changed by the money changers.  It used to mean in Luke Jr bible days just the charging of interest, then they changed it to "unreasonable interest" LOL.  Kind of like saying "rape" vs "unreasonable rape".  Usury is a form of slavery and it doesn't matter what the yield you're pulling is.

Usury is to lend money with interest. The current banking system was born from it.

Bitcoin, on the contrary, was born from resentment against the banking system, during the 2008-2009 crisis.

Bitcoin still dont have a lending system. So we cant classify it as a usury system, unless your /pol/ dictionary have changed its meaning. But by then, we would be speaking different languages, I guess.

[mike4001]

Back at USD 11.360 (Bitcoinaverage)

Yesterday we touched 13k for a moment and immediately went down to 11k again.

Crap :-/

[OWZ1337]

As I see it - whales do money if it is dipping, and if it is going up

There is no exchange with my fiat that I could win in daytrade.


I bought btc back but I see it will dip for sure - but at my exchanges there is so low volume and bot manipulation that even If i sell and buy back at night when it will be low - still I wont be +

And no one here have shown me any good reason/evidence that Hodling = winning

If you holdl from january 2013, you make about a 1000x in 5 years.

This is a good reason/evidence.

So you want to say that Bitcoin will never drop? Please in whole history of stock - find me company or anything that never ever dropped? Please


Sorry but I am not rich - no one gave me anything. Right now I will try on 0.175btc and HODL not looking on the price. If it goes up for uptrend I buy more. If it goes down - oh well that wasn't so much.

If i put my savings into a bankaccount im 100% sure it will be worth less next year.

Investing my savings into BTCitcoin brought me way more then i could have ever hoped for. I dont trust banks with their government issued money with my savings. I believe in decentralised limited supply. Thats why i invest in bitcoin.

I pay with fiat, save in BTCitcoin. HODL 4 life.

^In God Weee Trust ~bitcoin has unlimited supply right now my friend.

[Torque]

You are all wasting your time.  It is only possible to build usury schemes that centralize transaction validators through economy of scale, and those then turn into federated chains/permissioned ledgers by default.  

Is that right?

So let's say all of us idiots bought into your bullshit, but invested in Bitcoin anyway. And we road the wave all the way up to full federated ledger status. We then sell all our bitcoin at $1M/btc and buy up 10,000X more physical silver than you'll ever own in your lifetime.

Thus we outsmart you again. Checkmate fool.

[bitcoinvest]

Good afternoon bitcoin land..
Are you ready for under 9000 €?

[conspirosphere.tk]

Back at USD 11.360 (Bitcoinaverage)

Yesterday we touched 13k for a moment and immediately went down to 11k again.

Crap :-/

Not so much: ping-ponging within a range is the heaven for bots. And they are likely contributing to shape this movements in a significant amount.
I'm just considering to restart trade-botting myself.

[realr0ach]

You are all wasting your time.  It is only possible to build usury schemes that centralize transaction validators through economy of scale, and those then turn into federated chains/permissioned ledgers by default.  

Is that right?

So let's say all of us idiots bought into your bullshit, but invested in Bitcoin anyway. And we road the wave all the way up to full federated ledger status. We then sell all our bitcoin at $1M/btc and buy up 10,000X more physical silver than you'll ever own in your lifetime.

Thus we outsmart you again. Checkmate fool.

If you know bitcoin is bullshit and it's not even possible to create a decentralized digital currency, yet you lie to people to try and get pump and dump profits off old retarded pensioners playing the greater fool, there is no moral difference than just flat out robbing an armored car.  It is just white collar criminal vs blue collar criminal, so you might as well just start hacking bank sites or whatever to steal the money if you're going to be a white collar criminal, or go be a blue collar criminal and attack the Brink's truck.  

You are playing the coward's way, be a criminal while pretending not to be one.  Or what virtually every single Jew in finance on the planet does.  And if your criminal enterprise is solely trying to trick people into buying your pump and dump, you are being a completely inefficient criminal.  Why not start an IPO to scam people like Vitalik?  Where does it end?  How far are you willing to go?

[d_eddie]

Good afternoon bitcoin land..
Are you ready for under 9000 €?

Well, my lowest buy order hasn't been filled yet.
And I haven't sold my granny yet, either.
Guess it means I'm ready.
But but... Granny... I'm not ready for that. Yet.

[bitcoinvest]

Good afternoon bitcoin land..
Are you ready for under 9000 €?

Well, my lowest buy order hasn't been filled yet.
And I haven't sold my granny yet, either.
Guess it means I'm ready.
But but... Granny... I'm not ready for that. Yet.

nice answer i have to admit !!
Get ready for blood the way i see it i hope i am wrong...

[rezurect007]

Low volume movement ..
Looks like we are going to test that 11k double bottom on the hourly..

[Torque]

Fkn hilarious to see how much the Altlandia trading bots have now hitched their wagons to the Bitcoin spot price.

And people think those markets' price movements are completely independent of Bitcoin.  

[bones261]

You are all wasting your time.  It is only possible to build usury schemes that centralize transaction validators through economy of scale, and those then turn into federated chains/permissioned ledgers by default.  

Is that right?

So let's say all of us idiots bought into your bullshit, but invested in Bitcoin anyway. And we road the wave all the way up to full federated ledger status. We then sell all our bitcoin at $1M/btc and buy up 10,000X more physical silver than you'll ever own in your lifetime.

Thus we outsmart you again. Checkmate fool.

If you know bitcoin is bullshit and it's not even possible to create a decentralized digital currency, yet you lie to people to try and get pump and dump profits off old retarded people playing the greater fool, there is no moral difference than just flat out robbing an armored car.  It is just white collar criminal vs blue collar criminal, so you might as well just start hacking bank sites or whatever to steal the money if you're going to be a white collar criminal, or go be a blue collar criminal and attack the Brink's truck.  You are playing the coward's way, be a criminal while pretending not to be one.  Or what virtually every single Jew in finance on the planet does.

Can you please explain why you are blogging on Steemit then? Are you ignoring all of your proceeds, or are you being a hypocrite? According to your activity, you are sending your proceeds to Poloniex quite regularly. https://steemit.com/@r0achtheunsavory/transfers

[El duderino_]

Good afternoon bitcoin land..
Are you ready for under 9000 €?

More ready for 90000 € BTC ‘s

[Torque]

Can you please explain why you are blogging on Steemit then? Are you ignoring all of your proceeds, or are you being a hypocrite? According to your activity, you are sending your proceeds to Poloniex quite regularly. https://steemit.com/@r0achtheunsavory/transfers

Where he's attempting to acquire more btc, of course.  

[bitcoinvest]

Good afternoon bitcoin land..
Are you ready for under 9000 €?

More ready for 90000 € BTC ‘s

hahaha that was a good one! Year: 2021-2022?

[realr0ach]

Usury is to lend money with interest. The current bank system was born from it.

Bitcoin, on the contrary, was born from resentment against the banking system, during the 2008-2009 crisis.

Bitcoin still dont have a lending system. So we cant classify it as a usury system, unless your /pol/ dictionary have changed its meaning. But by then, we would be speaking different languages, I guess.

You do not actually understand how bitcoin works.  Proof of work isn't "work", it's spending money to put metal boxes on cruise control to generate interest.  Anywhere there is interest involved, there is usury.  They are not miners or transaction validators and they are not doing work, they are rent seekers.  If bitcoin was the world reserve currency (god forbid), and you're one of the tiny amount of mining monopolies demanding a cut of every transaction, you are practicing usury.  

You see, so called "proof of work" is really just externalized proof of stake in practice.  There is no real difference besides the external stake has a slightly higher chance of eroding than an internal one.  Both schemes generate interest and where there is interest, there is usury.  The only way out of that paradigm, like I said, is for everyone to process their own transactions like email PoW - unprofitable PoW style.  As I also said, IOTA was the closest attempt at that, but it's not possible to form consensus in a DAG without artificial convergence, so it's a failure - an easily predictable failure because it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency.