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[Elwar]

... It's definitely not money, just some guy named Shlomo Nakamoto's scheme to trap people in the 1984 system described by Aaron Russo.  Shilling for craptocurrency is shilling for the Jewish banker occupied state and against freedom in the end, and you're definitely not going to become an Aryan superman doing that.

Wait, are you telling me that I will never become an Aryan superman?



I looked up that Aaron Russo guy.

In an interview with Alex Jones shortly before his death, Russo made the claim that a "Nicholas Rockefeller", who may or may not exist,[3] had told him 11 months prior to 9/11 that there was going to be an "event", which would lead to the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, and the attempted coup d'etat in Venezuela, amongst other things

Seems legit.

But then I started reading about his movie about the American tax system and I have to admit that I´m definitely
sympathetic to some of his views:

The film examines the genesis and functions of the Federal Reserve System. The film asserts that the Federal Reserve System is a system of privately held, for profit corporations, not a government agency, and that the Fed was commissioned to print fiat money on behalf of the federal government, at a fee ultimately paid for by the personal income tax (through service on bond interest). The film also refers to the fact that the United States dollar is not backed by gold, and states that this means the dollar has no real backing other than future income tax payments. Consequently, the film states that Federal Reserve Notes represent debt instead of wealth.

The central thesis of the film may be that this monetary policy is the strongest form of governance that has ever existed, and is central to the unconstitutional, global power ambitions of the interests that supposedly control the Federal Reserve System.

Damn it, I´m starting to like Russo after I dismissed him initially as a
conspiracy theorist. Has anyone watched the movie (America: Freedom to Fascism)?

I met Russo when he was running for the LP nomination for president. Seemed kinda arrogant with his entourage like he was doing the LP a favor. Said his main reason for running was to keep Nolan from winning (I guess he had some conspiracy theory against him). That's the year the third place guy ended up winning the nomination.

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[fabiorem]

Maybe i’m Kinda curious off Some in here are actually selling / panicselling while writing things about Going to the moon and stuff ?? Are there Some in here ? Bottom Sellers or not too Many?

I did short a small fraction back in december, but it was to rebuy lower. However, I nearly got squeezed out. It wasnt panic selling, I was just trying a little increase on my humble stash (I usually do that with altcoins in Bittrex, in small quantities, but they were falling as well). Im a bad trader, and I believe the price will go to 25k in march.

I read that Alyssa also shorted a fraction, and then theres this guy, who probably sold in panic, and got from bull to bear in three topics:

January 16, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2765008

January 19, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2788158

January 30, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2850374

[European Central Bank]

I read that Alyssa also shorted a fraction, and then theres this guy, who probably sold in panic, and got from bull to bear in three topics:

January 16, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2765008

January 19, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2788158

January 30, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2850374

yet another slug who got caught in the fast lane.

[Flamaicon]

2 or 3 months of frozen, slow ups and big dips...
Its normal.
After the storm, the market will be more confident and the prices will pump again.
Just be patience

[xhomerx10]

Maybe i’m Kinda curious off Some in here are actually selling / panicselling while writing things about Going to the moon and stuff ?? Are there Some in here ? Bottom Sellers or not too Many?

 
 Still hodlin and buying here.... But I'm running low on fiat money so I'm hodlin out for cheapest coins based on masteluc predictions.

[erre]

Let's go with the 1930's instead:

http://dailystormer.top/self-help-sunday-bitches-love-nazis/

If chicks follow the money they will all come to us crypto-nerds, disregarding grandpas and their cheap metals.

For the 4000th time, bitcoin has built-in middlemen and does not remove counterparty risk.  It also has non-blinded transactions and designed to centralize transaction validators, making it a permissioned ledger and anyone that uses it a cellmate in a digital prison.  It's definitely not money, just some guy named Shlomo Nakamoto's scheme to trap people in the 1984 system described by Aaron Russo.  Shilling for craptocurrency is shilling for the Jewish banker occupied state and against freedom in the end, and you're definitely not going to become an Aryan superman doing that.

I think you are somewhat incoherent if you think that women can understand all this shit. This is totally irrelevant. According to your equation moar money= moar power = fuck every women.
But since power and money are all in the hands of jews, seems that you have to make a new holocaust if you want to finally get laid. There's no metals turnaround, Jews will always rig the market like they always did, and you will die alone with your worthless manipulated silver stash.

So, just buy bitcoin, and lie to chicks telling they are worth way more because of the Jews. You have good chance they will never be able to check.

[toknormal]

We finally have an immensely satisfying and delicious consolidation.

1-Wk MACD correcting. (But it's gone too deep for the 1st bar so it's going to come back up). No worries, there's plenty of padded cushion to dump into. F*kr keeps bouncing back up when dumps try to penetrate support.

[cAPSLOCK]

Wow bitcoin is under heavy attack from jew media here in Germany. The biggest jew paper "Bild" says it will completely collapse soon and go to zero. Looks like they are really scared of cryptos 👍

I love when they say goes to zero. Then I will by all bitcoins for zero and sell it for 0.00001$ and will be infinetely rich!

Umm no.  You would have $210.

But I get your point.

[conspirosphere.tk]

It's time to start the

[toknormal]

10 year guvpaper dumperoo as well. Yields aloft ! Student debt bomb slightly closer to the touchpaper.

According to Greg Mannarino this is all co-ordinated action to keep the stock market afloat.

[GHCoins45]

Maybe i’m Kinda curious off Some in here are actually selling / panicselling while writing things about Going to the moon and stuff ?? Are there Some in here ? Bottom Sellers or not too Many?

 
 Still hodlin and buying here.... But I'm running low on fiat money so I'm hodlin out for cheapest coins based on masteluc predictions.

Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?

[toknormal]

"Crooked Hillary and Toxic Tether".

It'd make a great comic strip. (Printed on 10-year Guvpaper of course ).

[d_eddie]

Maybe i’m Kinda curious off Some in here are actually selling / panicselling while writing things about Going to the moon and stuff ?? Are there Some in here ? Bottom Sellers or not too Many?

 Still hodlin and buying here.... But I'm running low on fiat money so I'm hodlin out for cheapest coins based on masteluc predictions.

Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?

The horse's mouth is on VKontakte
https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga

Masterluc's account here on Bitcointalk has been compromised. Disregard any post in his name on Bitcointalk!

[rezurect007]

bought small amounts the way down. HODL
Low on fiat now.

[serveria.com]

Just in case somebody is interested and into mining Antminers are in stock and available at the moment. 

[xhomerx10]

Maybe i’m Kinda curious off Some in here are actually selling / panicselling while writing things about Going to the moon and stuff ?? Are there Some in here ? Bottom Sellers or not too Many?

 
 Still hodlin and buying here.... But I'm running low on fiat money so I'm hodlin out for cheapest coins based on masteluc predictions.

Hey xhomerx10, where do you get masterluc's predictions from?

 The master luck account has been compromised but he has a few aliases.

This is him on ://www.traditradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/3RjQGYZp-No-resistance-till-15000-when-3500-will-break-up/

[jojo69]

I read that Alyssa also shorted a fraction, and then theres this guy, who probably sold in panic, and got from bull to bear in three topics:

January 16, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2765008

January 19, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2788158

January 30, 2018:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2850374

some guy lost money huh?  /clicks on link/  oooooh, some guy I already had on ignore lost money, hahahahahahahaha

[JayJuanGee]

Pop quiz: Convince an average low/middle class fiat-loving law-abiding person who doesnt believe in a failing or fraudlent banking system that they should use bitcoin, without talking about its price or making profit by trading it. Present what benefits they will reap by using bitcoin as opposed to banks, VISA, google pay, venmo, etc. Anything besides capital gain?

You are presenting false parameters in your shilling argument, tera beara... bitcoin is not merely meant to serve as a payment system, even though it may well accomplish such common use in that direction in the future, perhaps, but not necessarily in order to still have value and utility.

Yeah, if you create your own strawman, then you can more easily make some dumb -ass pie in the sky argument, that is not connected with reality.

If you are saying there are false parameters, you must be admitting bitcoin is only for overthrowing the fed, committing crimes, and/or making a profit... (or overthrowing the fed so you dont have to taxes on the profits)

Bullshit.  I am not saying that at all.

I am making a comment about prima facie deficiencies of your hypothetical framework - and maybe I need to point out
 such deficiencies a bit more clearly, so you don't purposefully continue to add to the convolution.   

Your hypothetical clearly implies parameters in which bitcoin's only utility would be as a payment system, and we should suppose away its storage of value proposition.. therefore you are setting up as stupid-ass hypothetical that is no where near what bitcoin currently is in order to suppose some fictitious framework that supports you FUD spreading desires, perhaps? 

[JayJuanGee]

Pop quiz: Convince an average low/middle class fiat-loving law-abiding person that they should use bitcoin without talking about its price or making profit by trading it.

The people you've described tend to be very very stupid, or at least simple-minded. Sheep in general. They believe that government and establishment will help them out, if they only vote for the right politicians.

They think that the best way to make money is to put it in a bank and lose 3% purchasing power each year, despite interest, or to invest in some conservative mutual funds which won't make them any real profit until they die - at least they can pass it to their children... after a hefty tax.

Or maybe they just love being slaves.

EDIT with regards to your quote - if these people are fiat-loving, then you'd have to change that first. For them, Bitcoin offers no benefits because they love the government and idolize the leaders of their political philosophy in government.
Of course, these same leaders will dump them in an economic crash and tax them into oblivion.

I think the proper technical term is agreeable. It's not something you choose. Just like we didn't choose to be disagreeable.

In my experience, most of these "agreeable" people become very aggressive, and call Bitcoin a "scam" etc.

The most common concern I hear is that "Bitcoin is not controlled by anyone, therefore it's too risky". I'm not kidding.

Um, how about a little more discussion about price movement??

Only down $10k. Just a flesh wound. $50k right around the corner...

Yeah we are bored. Years of the same shit over and over, nothing to talk about.

At least so far as price. What would be a useful discussion is how to live when you can choose instead of have it dictated for you. I can't be the only one having an interesting time transitioning.

Yep... exactly... The last year, and perhaps a bit longer (maybe two years) has shown  the bull scenario, and has also allowed BTC HODLers to profit within the outside and speculative possibilities of their dreams, and now we are "suffering" from seeming ongoing support (rather than resistance) at the $10k level, which makes longer term investors to be swimming in a decent state of equity.  Yeah.. I know that some folks cashed out 50% of their bitcoins, but there are a lot of strong hands too that are longer term bitcoin holders, and really did not need to cash out a large percentage of their bitcoins in order to benefit in the land of considerable profits... So, yes.. that does bring a new perspective, and likely a new way of living for several folks, where the dream (or some variation of it) needs to be put into action... which is enjoying some of the fruits of exponential asset appreciation (our little friend BTC) that is likely far from over, yet.

[JayJuanGee]

Mmmm next price poll after 16feb...?? But between ...?? These days iT can be everything , Just Hoping everybody keeps on hodling down here So we can all MOON together

Tuff times these days but buissnes like allways

What is the significance of 2/16?  There is some conference that has been taken over by Bcash around then, and expecting another Bcash pumpening around that time, no?  Which may or may not affect BTC prices, I suppose they would want to pump bcash and to attack bitcoin at the same time and propose the cashening, as oppose to the flippening as oppose to the rippling, as opposed to the tethering as opposed to the dashening?  keeping up can be difficult, no?